PC Engine Hucard soundtracks that use sampled drums

[VenomMacbeth]

I'm currently working on editing the original post with a list of games with samples.  Just gotta dig back through this thread...

[esteban]

Sampled drums... Where is CrackTiger/Necro/Bonknuts to point is to the old thread where a lot of games with sampled drums are mentioned?

[Digi.k]

Title (jpn/USA)                                    Publisher:         Released(JPN/USA)   Music Composers (tbc)

1943 kai                                             Naxat Soft        1991/----      H.Matsushita/D.Morishima
21 Emon Mezase! Hotel ou                   NEC                 1994/----
Andre Panza Kick boxing/the Kick boxingNEC                1992/1991
Batman                                              Sunsoft            1990/----       N Hara/N Morota/S Seya
Battle Royale                                      NEC                  1990/----
Champions Forever Boxing                   NEC                 ----/1991
Coryoon                                             Naxat Soft        1991/----         Hisashi Matsushita/Daisuke
                                                                                                       Morishima
Cyber Core                                         IGS                  1990/1990       Toshio Murai/Terra
Cyber Dodge                                      Tonkin House    1992/----          Einosuke Nagao/ Toshi Oya
Cyber Knight                                      Tonkin House    1990/----
Dead Moon                                         TSS                  1990/1991        M Ishimoda/Y sonoda
Detana twin bee !?!                             Konami             1992/----          Metal Yuhki/Kiyoshi Mu
Devil Crash / Devil's Crush                   Naxat Soft         1990/1990       
Dragon Saber                                      Namcot             1991/----         Nobi
Energy                                               Masaya NCS       1989/----
F1 Circus 92'                                       Nitchibutsu        1992/----
F1 Triple  Battle                                   Human              1989/----
Fighting Run                                        Nitchibutsu       1991/----         Amigo/  PCM system: Kirekire
Final Match Tennis                               Human              1991/----
Final Soldier                                        Hudsonsoft        1991/----          T S Kiyoshi
Fire pro wrestling 2nd bout                   Human              1991/----
Fire pro wrestling 3   legend bout          Human              1992/----
Formation soccer 90                             Human             1990/----
Formation Soccer On J League               Human             1994/----      Hironori tanaka/ Takamitsu
                                                                                                     -Kajikawa / Tomoyuki Takano /
                                                                                                     Tetsuji Ohtani/ Yukie Sugawara/
                                                                                                     Shaka /Hideto Maeda /
                                                                                                     Konomi Itoh / Kaori Takazoe/
Gai Flame                                            Masaya NCS     1990/----
Gradius                                                Konami            1991/----      H Muraoka
Gunhed  / BlaZing LaZers                      Hudson Soft      1989/1989   Miyamo/J.T.S/Mats/Sydon/
                                                                                                     Ozono/Takeuchi
Hana Taka daka!?                                 Taito                1991/----      Yamashita
Hany on the Road                                 FACE                1990
Hiso keihei Kai serd                              Masaya NCS      1990/----
Hit the Ice                                            Taito                1991/1992
Jackie Chan/Jackie Chan's Action Kung FuHudson Soft     1991/1992   M Maekawa
Kaiso chojin Shubibinman                        Masaya NCS      1989/----
Kaiso chojin Shubibinman 2 / Shockman   Masaya NCS      1991/1992   K Hayama
kyukyoku Mahjong idol Graphic              Game Express   1992/----
Metal Stoker                                         FACE                1991/----     Hiroto Saitou/Nozomu
                                                                                                      Takahashi
Morita Shogi pc                                    NEC Avenue       1991/----
Motor roader                                        Masaya NCS      1989/1989   Goblin Sound
Motor Roader 2                                     Masaya NCS      1991/----
Naxat Stadium                                       Naxat Soft        1990/----
Nekketsu Koukou Dodgeball Soccer         Naxat Soft        1992/----
NHK Taiga Drama TaiHeiki                      NHK                 1992/----
Override                                                Data East         1991/----       Y Santoh
Operation Wolf                                       NEC Avenue      1990/----
Parodius DA!                                          Konami            1992/----      (cameo) Mataro/(Dog) Umero
PC Denjin / Air Zonk                               Hudson Soft      1992/1992    Daisuke Morishima/Matsukui
PC Genjin / Bonk                                    Hudson Soft      1989/1990
PC Genjin 2 / bonk's Adventure                Hudson Soft      1990/1991    Ha Takayama
Populous                                                Hudson Soft      1991/----
power eleven                                          Hudson Soft      1991/----
Power Tennis                                          Hudson Soft      1993/----
Salamander                                            Konami             1991/----    H Muraoka
Sekigahara                                             Tonkin House    1990/---
Soldier Blade                                          Hudson Soft      1992/----      Keita Hoshi/Makiko Tanifuji/
                                                                                                        Lu Iwabuchi (sound system)
Street Fighter II ' champion Ed                NEC                  1993/----      Yoshihihu"Oyabun"Sakaguchi/
                                                                                                        Yashushi"Ikebomb"Ikeda/
                                                                                                        Hari Yamaguchi/
                                                                                                        Isao"Oyaji"Abe
Super star Soldier                                   Hudson Soft      1990/1991   Dr Nakahashi/Mr Hoshi
Time Cruise II                                        FACE                 1991/1992
Takkahashi meijin no shin bokken jima / New Adventure Island Hudson Soft  1992/1992  K Sakata
Toilet Kids                                             Media Rings       1992/----    T's Music
Tricky                                                    IGS                  1991/1990
Violent Soldier / Sinistron                        IGS                  1990/1991
Xevious Fardraut saga                             Namcot            1990/----     Myamo / Jemini Hirono (Sound
                                                                                                       Programmer)
   


Not sure about:
Chouzetsu Rinjin Beraboh Man / Bravoman  Namcot
Granzort            Hudson Soft
Jigoku Meguri            Taito
Mesopotamia /Somer Assault   Atlus          1991/1992
Zipang             Pack in Video

[Digi.k]

It's a pity that NEC Avenue couldn't sort themselves out, every time I hear their attempt at drum sounds, vomit pours out of my ears.

Agreed that NEC Ave could have done a lot better with their music on their HuCard games but I do feel Altered Beast (juoki) is pretty darn good with the drum banging on that and I had been convinced for a while but decided to agree that it's not sampled.

[esteban]

Digi.k: you forgot to include Rastan Saga II (the soundtrack makes ample use of sampled ass).

[Digi.k]

Digi.k: you forgot to include Rastan Saga II (the soundtrack makes ample use of sampled ass).

Added some names to dat list

[CrackTiger]

Digi.k: you forgot to include Rastan Saga II (the soundtrack makes ample use of sampled ass).

So that's what the "thumping" was.

[Digi.k]

and some more

F1 Triple Battle

Battle Royale

kyukyoku Mahjong idol Graphic

kyukyoku Mahjong idol Graphic 2

NHK Taiga Drama Taiheiki

Morita Shogi pc

[esteban]

I haven't listened to all of these yet.
Comment pending...

[Digi.k]

some more

Gai Flame
sekigahara

[CrackTiger]

I believe that Tokimeki Memorial is the only CD game I've found, which seems to use standard samples within chiptunes, instead of adpcm. It might have been a similar title, but I'm pretty sure that's the one. There are segments with streaming adpcm dialogue while the full chip track plays, without it all bejng pre-recorded like some of YS IV's dialogue.

[Mathius]

I haven't played it in a dog's age but I seem to remember Genji Tsushin Agedama having sampled drums. The stage one theme is a real ear worm. Pure sex. Don't dare listen without a towel.

Sorry if that game has already been mentioned.

[VenomMacbeth]

I haven't played it in a dog's age but I seem to remember Genji Tsushin Agedama having sampled drums. The stage one theme is a real ear worm. Pure sex. Don't dare listen without a towel.

Sorry if that game has already been mentioned.

I agree that it's an ear worm.  I've had it & the stage 1 music from Son Son II stuck in my head for the past week.

However, I'm pretty certain the drums are still chip-produced.

[Mathius]

I haven't played it in a dog's age but I seem to remember Genji Tsushin Agedama having sampled drums. The stage one theme is a real ear worm. Pure sex. Don't dare listen without a towel.

Sorry if that game has already been mentioned.

I agree that it's an ear worm.  I've had it & the stage 1 music from Son Son II stuck in my head for the past week.

However, I'm pretty certain the drums are still chip-produced.

Yeah the more I think about it the more I believe you're right. Looks like I need to bust the game out and listen for myself.

[ParanoiaDragon]

I haven't played it in a dog's age but I seem to remember Genji Tsushin Agedama having sampled drums. The stage one theme is a real ear worm. Pure sex. Don't dare listen without a towel.

Sorry if that game has already been mentioned.

Nah, sounds like standard PCM to me.

What's odd, is that years ago before actually owning the game, I had a dream about it, & was blasting the music to a friend or something, & IN that dream it had some really dope sampled drums!

[Mathius]

I haven't played it in a dog's age but I seem to remember Genji Tsushin Agedama having sampled drums. The stage one theme is a real ear worm. Pure sex. Don't dare listen without a towel.

Sorry if that game has already been mentioned.

Nah, sounds like standard PCM to me.

What's odd, is that years ago before actually owning the game, I had a dream about it, & was blasting the music to a friend or something, & IN that dream it had some really dope sampled drums!

Keep your dreams away from my memories! They're screwing with me. 

I had some sampled chip music in my head earlier that hasn't been mentioned but it must've leaked out. As soon as I remember I'll be back.

[Mathius]

Ah it was Legend of Valkyrie! Now I know I heard samples in this Namco classic.


I think

[Digi.k]

Ah it was Legend of Valkyrie! Now I know I heard samples in this Namco classic.


I think

Haha nope sadly.  I am certain the only Namco game to use sample drums is dragon saber.  They do have a pretty good sound engine on most of their games tho.

[Mathius]

Ah it was Legend of Valkyrie! Now I know I heard samples in this Namco classic.


I think

Haha nope sadly.  I am certain the only Namco game to use sample drums is dragon saber.  They do have a pretty good sound engine on most of their games tho.

Damn!

I quit.

They must have had a good sound engine since there isn't a shred of "Tinny-ness" in its drum sounds.

[Digi.k]

CD chip tunes with (likely use at least some adpcm) drum samples:

Dragon Slayer
Cyber City OEDO 808
Genocide

I was really shocked at how good the drum samples are in Dragon Slayer Legend of Heroes.  So good I think they might be better than coryoons.... :O

Also although this topic is mostly about hucards with drum samples..since ya added a little list of CD-rom games with drum samples I might also want to add NEMURENU YORU NO CHIISANA OHANASHI YUKO HARA which seems to have sampled percussion stuff, and this game is so cute and upbeat I am actually blushing from how sugar coated this game is.

[ParanoiaDragon]

I wish the 2nd Legend of Heroes game also used sampled drums, that kinda bugged me that they didn't stick to that.

[Digi.k]

I think Gaia no monshou too has samples although cannot quite tell from the youtube vids.

also Snatcher CD-ROMantic

[Digi.k]

I think world jockey by Namcot 1991 could also have drum samples!  surprising as I thought Dragon Saber was their only pc engine game to have them

[CrackTiger]

Snatcher doesn't use samples.

I still can't be bothered to put together a proper list, but here are some off the top of my head that might not have been posted:

Operation Wolf
Yami no Ketsuzoku
Cyber City OEDO 808
Andre Panza Kickboxing

[esteban]

Rastan Saga II uses sampled Dum Dums

[Digi.k]

Snatcher doesn't use samples.

I still can't be bothered to put together a proper list, but here are some off the top of my head that might not have been posted:

Operation Wolf
Yami no Ketsuzoku
Cyber City OEDO 808
Andre Panza Kickboxing

I could have sworn the stuff on snatcher sounds like those found on tokimeki memorial, those youtube vids gave me that impression after watching a few. 


EDIT

Also really surprised with the operation wolf too.  Those samples are sparsely used!

[CrackTiger]

I just want to know if there's more than one track to Andre Panza. I played through it over 20 years ago and can't remember.

[esteban]

I just want to know if there's more than one track to Andre Panza. I played through it over 20 years ago and can't remember.

Tangent: I had way more fun completing career mode in Davis Cup...I don't think I ever completed Panza. If I did, it certainly didn't make a lasting impression.

Back on topic: if there was an ending screen/credit scroll...that might be the only other place for a song. It also means that only a handful of humans have ever heard that song.

[CrackTiger]

I just want to know if there's more than one track to Andre Panza. I played through it over 20 years ago and can't remember.

Tangent: I had way more fun completing career mode in Davis Cup...I don't think I ever completed Panza. If I did, it certainly didn't make a lasting impression.

Back on topic: if there was an ending screen/credit scroll...that might be the only other place for a song. It also means that only a handful of humans have ever heard that song.

The title screen track out-SNESes the SNES version, so it would be interesting to hear any other tracks that might be in it. I plan to play through it again now, but I'm not sure when I'll have time to learn it and make it all the way through in one sitting.

[esteban]

I just want to know if there's more than one track to Andre Panza. I played through it over 20 years ago and can't remember.

Tangent: I had way more fun completing career mode in Davis Cup...I don't think I ever completed Panza. If I did, it certainly didn't make a lasting impression.

Back on topic: if there was an ending screen/credit scroll...that might be the only other place for a song. It also means that only a handful of humans have ever heard that song.

The title screen track out-SNESes the SNES version, so it would be interesting to hear any other tracks that might be in it. I plan to play through it again now, but I'm not sure when I'll have time to learn it and make it all the way through in one sitting.

You are going to play through Andre Panza? You are crazy. Next, you will tell me that you are going to do the same for Champions Forever Boxing (ha!).

[ParanoiaDragon]

I beat Andre Panza eons ago as well, I feel like there was maybe 3 or 4 tracks in the game, but, my memory is highly fuzzy.

[CrackTiger]

I just want to know if there's more than one track to Andre Panza. I played through it over 20 years ago and can't remember.

Tangent: I had way more fun completing career mode in Davis Cup...I don't think I ever completed Panza. If I did, it certainly didn't make a lasting impression.

Back on topic: if there was an ending screen/credit scroll...that might be the only other place for a song. It also means that only a handful of humans have ever heard that song.

The title screen track out-SNESes the SNES version, so it would be interesting to hear any other tracks that might be in it. I plan to play through it again now, but I'm not sure when I'll have time to learn it and make it all the way through in one sitting.

You are going to play through Andre Panza? You are crazy. Next, you will tell me that you are going to do the same for Champions Forever Boxing (ha!).

Champions Forever is very easy once you get the hang of it.

[Digi.k]

I beat Andre Panza eons ago as well, I feel like there was maybe 3 or 4 tracks in the game, but, my memory is highly fuzzy.

so why is the japanese version or Andre Panza disc only ? and is the music the same as the hucard or redbook audio ?

Plus does anyone have any codes for hidden music test on world jockey ?

[ParanoiaDragon]

I have both the US & Jp versions.  The Jp version(The Kick Boxing) just has some fairly bland renditions of the same songs.  I just went & ripped the disc, here's what's on it:

Track 1: Standard Jp warning
Track 2:data
Track 3:Introductory cinema with a guy probably talking about the long history of kick boxing or something
Track 4:Sounds like the exact same as Track 3
Track 5:Another Cinema, this one is a guy doing various moves, & says in bad English "Hey you, come one, ret's fight!"
Track 6:same as Track 5
Track 7:That Rocky'esque victory theme
Track 8:Ending Cinema/Credit theme as far as I can tell without going & beating the game, I can't recall the US versions theme, since I only beat it once but I assume this is the same song
Track 9:Rejoice! For this is the same as Track 8, but now louder!  Yay!
Track 10: the High Score theme
Track 11:Some sort of victory theme, sounds familiar, maybe it's when you you've beaten Panza?
Track 12:Some clapping & cheering
Track 13:Differnt clapping & cheering, & some data information at the end of the track

[esteban]

Ha! I think I have the CD Kickboxing...but I don't remember Le Musique.

[Digi.k]

Some of the music tracks in Racing Damashii seem to have a drum sample.  There is a hidden music track list that can be accessed by pressing 'select' on the title screen.  Particularly track 11 - warm up and possibly track 13 - Team R.D and 14 - Victory

EDIT
TV sports Hockey

[Digi.k]

Snatcher doesn't use samples.

I still can't be bothered to put together a proper list, but here are some off the top of my head that might not have been posted:

Operation Wolf
Yami no Ketsuzoku
Cyber City OEDO 808
Andre Panza Kickboxing

I'm still unsure about this.

although not quite as obvious as