PS4 revealed tomorrow...

[Psycho Punch]

hahaha there is no way Sony can lose to Microsoft with that mockery, at least not at the beggining.

[Mishran]

Watched some of the game trailers and really didnt see anything that likely couldn't be done on the PS3. You guys enjoy your shiny new systems that'll likely break after a year or so. I'll stick to gaming on old reliable and friends. PCE, Neo Geo, Genesis, and NES. Goodnight y'all!

[Nando]

Watched some of the game trailers and really didnt see anything that likely couldn't be done on the PS3.

Graphically, it won't be a leap like before. Nothing will, but things will look sharper for sure. The Bungie game looks cool, but that's about it. I didn't see a game that made me go, WOW I WANT THAT!

[PukeSter]

Sony killed it lol. But I was gonna wait until a year or 2 passes before I possibly get a PS4 or Xbox one. Nintendo is gonna end the morning in the lead and watching Sony and MS bicker lol.

Nintendo isn't even going to E3...

http://e3.nintendo.com/

[SMF]

Sony killed it lol. But I was gonna wait until a year or 2 passes before I possibly get a PS4 or Xbox one. Nintendo is gonna end the morning in the lead and watching Sony and MS bicker lol.

Nintendo isn't even going to E3...

http://e3.nintendo.com/

Yes I know Nintendo is doing a Nintendo Direct but to say they won't be at E3 is a lie. Everyone is awaiting Nintendos Direct this morning. It will be a huge event during E3 week.

[TheClash603]

Watched some of the game trailers and really didnt see anything that likely couldn't be done on the PS3.

Graphically, it won't be a leap like before. Nothing will, but things will look sharper for sure. The Bungie game looks cool, but that's about it. I didn't see a game that made me go, WOW I WANT THAT!

Compare Perfect Dark Zero, a launch game of the current gen, to Halo 4.  Graphics of launch games never improve as much over the previous system, but they definitely figure out the new systems as time passes.

[Ji-L87]

Watched some of the game trailers and really didnt see anything that likely couldn't be done on the PS3.

Graphically, it won't be a leap like before. Nothing will, but things will look sharper for sure. The Bungie game looks cool, but that's about it. I didn't see a game that made me go, WOW I WANT THAT!

Compare Perfect Dark Zero, a launch game of the current gen, to Halo 4.  Graphics of launch games never improve as much over the previous system, but they definitely figure out the new systems as time passes.

Pretty much this. I remember trying that Perfect Dark game some year back at a friends house after pestering him about it...and I remember it looked decidedly "meh". Not bad, just...not so hot.

Now, Halo 4 on the other hand, I find can be downright gorgeous at times. Oh, and blue skies in games and all that
So, more interested in what the future will bring than what's on the table now.

[esadajr]

Watched some of the game trailers and really didnt see anything that likely couldn't be done on the PS3.

Exactly my point, where is the innovation? In every past generation you had something to differentiate from the previous one (16bit graphics, 3D graphics, better 3D graphics, HD and motion controllers).

[jeffhlewis]

We're reaching a point with graphics - what else can you do? more bloom? The shit already looks practically real on the current gen. Not like 4K TV's are going to be widespread very soon either.

I think that $100 price difference is the real killer here - nothing I've seen on XBone is remotely worth $100 extra bucks, and paying for XBox Live Gold is horseshit. MS is going to have to cut their price early in the game to compete.

I really don't think the DRM/always-online crap is going to matter as much to the general COD-and-Madden buying public. Plus if it's a software/firmware related issue it's probably easy enough for MS to issue and update and sweep it under the rug.

Should be an interesting console war.

[PCEngineHell]

I really don't think the DRM/always-online crap is going to matter as much to the general COD-and-Madden buying public.

You would be surprised. The fanbase for COD on PC is basically on par with the console fanbase and people were pretty pissed when they swapped over to Steam and more anal DRM after World at War. It pretty much killed use game sales for the PC versions of Black Ops and Modern Warfare. I am sure it will have a impact on the console side as well. Plus, people don't like having to jump through hoops to sell their used games. People like being able to sell them on ebay or Craigslist or to friends. Xbox One is not going to be friendly towards that. All the negatives will add up.

[Nando]

[Arkhan Asylum]

I preordered the PS4 as soon as amazon let me.

It's going to kick all kinds of ass.  That Destiny game is like, Rifts on drugs.

[SMF]

I'm interested but I can wait for a killer bundle to be offered before I buy one.

[bartre]

yeah, i'm gonna wait a bit, as i always do, but it's definitely ps4 for this guy.
i am sad that the panzer dragoon "sequel" and KI3 are exclusive, but hey, they can always try the bioshock route and come out later on ps4.
and KH3 -

[TheClash603]

After preordering a PS4 and thinking about things, I am on the cusp of cancelling the Xbox One preorder I made.

I was kinda excited that there is a special Xobx One Day One Edition and I was bu,,ed PS4 didn't do something similar.  The I thought about it a little more, and the collectible aspect of the Xbox One special edition is really questionable.  In 15 years who is going to care about a special controller, when it is useless because all the games are shut off?  Essentially, there is no real value to the system, as it will eventually just be a useless hunk of plastic.

I guess MS has a few months to persuade me to keep my order in.

[SMF]

Or it might make unopen Xbox one games ultra rare and highly collectible and the need to store them in ultra rarez plastic cases and put them on ebay for $500, 000 a game as such is in itself worth the buying of such console lol.

[BlueBMW]

Or it could end up like HDDVD

[fraggore]

I am not getting xbox one Microsoft and there new policy's can kiss my sweaty arse.

[CrackTiger]

Apparently the PS4 is setup to lock out used games the same as the Xbox One. Sony is only saying that for now, they are opting not to lock out their own first party games. If a third party chooses, they might lock out used games but not sell/transfer user licenses, which would make it even worse than Xbox One for used gsmes.

Sony just seems to be letting Microsoft announce plans first, then choose to just not be as bad for various aspects. But the PS3/360 generation was already bad enough with games shipping unfinished and just patched up down the road (requiring an internet connection and often mandatory harddrive installs). These aren't really consoles anymore, just media boxes.

[EvilEvoIX]

It's sad to see Microsoft go this route, effectively shutting down a huge avenue of gaming for a lot of us.  This launch is akin to the Saturn Launch, more money, arrogance, just going to ruin it's name in gaming.  Sony doesn't need to sell once piece of hardware to make a profit, and I mean not one tv, stereo, anything.  They make the bulk of their income from Life Insurance in Japan.

I fear Sony might take Liberties with their content now since Microsoft has gone so far right with their policy's giving Sony a wide berth to move.  The only choice left now is SONY and Nintendo, and you are either a Nintendo Fan Boy or your not.

[td741]

Apparently the PS4 is setup to lock out used games the same as the Xbox One. Sony is only saying that for now, they are opting not to lock out their own first party games. If a third party chooses, they might lock out used games but not sell/transfer user licenses, which would make it even worse than Xbox One for used gsmes.

I guess we'll see... http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/11/playstation-4-drm-policies-third-party/  ithe update portion says:
"Update: Sony itself has responded with the following: "Similar to PS3, we will not dictate the online used game strategy (the ability to play used games online) of its publishing partners. As announced last night, PS4 will not have any gating restrictions for used disc-based games. When a gamer buys a PS4 disc they have right to use that copy of the game, so they can trade-in the game at retail, sell it to another person, lend it to a friend, or keep it forever.""

He seems categorically saying that the offline play on *DISC*-based games won't have restrictions.  Developers can have an online-pass system for PS4 like they had for some PS3/360 games or adopt another system. 

I guess we'll see.

[fraggore]

Online passes have gone but I did here talk that 3rd party developers could block online play and charge you no idea how that will work tho.

[fraggore]

Game spot are asking developers if they don't mind second hand games, and all of them are saying they think its fine to trade games, but they seem to get a bit sketchy when it comes to online play.

[jeffhlewis]

The only choice left now is SONY and Nintendo, and you are either a Nintendo Fan Boy or your not.

Or you're like me and you really just don't give a flying shit about anything released after the year 2000

[bartre]

that's a pretty poorly chosen cutoff man, there were still awesome games coming out then.
let's see:
Phantasy Star Online
Onimusha
Sonic Adventure 2
Devil May Cry
SSX Tricky
Golden Sun
DOA 3
Halo
SSBM
Final Fantasy X

[Psycho Punch]

Also Metal Gear... METAL GEAR!

Also, the official MSX2 ports translated into english of Metal Gear 1 and 2: Solid Snake on MGS3. So awesome!

Edit: in response to:

that's a pretty poorly chosen cutoff man, there were still awesome games coming out then.
let's see:
Phantasy Star Online
Onimusha
Sonic Adventure 2
Devil May Cry
SSX Tricky
Golden Sun
DOA 3
Halo
SSBM
Final Fantasy X

[VestCunt]

This all sounds like a bunch of crap. Console launches used to be about games and specs, now gamers wet themselves over which company announces the least consumer fuckery. Have fun with your $400 guys.

[roflmao]

This all sounds like a bunch of crap. Console launches used to be about games and specs, now gamers wet themselves over which company announces the least consumer fuckery. Have fun with your $400 guys.

Pretty much this.  I haven't gotten around to picking up a  PS3 or a Wii yet (don't know that I ever will), and these new consoles aren't doing anything for me.  There isn't a single compelling reason to pick either one of them up.

[Tatsujin]

this is so fun.

[jeffhlewis]

that's a pretty poorly chosen cutoff man, there were still awesome games coming out then.
let's see:
Phantasy Star Online
Onimusha
Sonic Adventure 2
Devil May Cry
SSX Tricky
Golden Sun
DOA 3
Halo
SSBM
Final Fantasy X

I'm obviously only being half serious here; there's tons of good stuff released every year.

BUT - I see videos of stuff like MGS5 and FFXV and just say "wow that looks cool. I'll never have 70 hours to play through it though."

I primarily use my PS3 as a media center anyways, so what Microsoft is doing with XBone actually appeals to me.

Still taking a wait and see approach to the next gen - my PS3 backlog of games is about 20 deep.

[PukeSter]

I'm actually getting the Wii U. They are playing it safe, but it has some truly exciting games on it.

Also, I need to explore more Wii/Gamecube games on my old Wii. I've never played a Metal Gear game, so I bought Twin Snakes. Hopefully I can also try out Resident Evil 4 eventually.

[jeffhlewis]

I'm actually getting the Wii U. They are playing it safe, but it has some truly exciting games on it.

Also, I need to explore more Wii/Gamecube games on my old Wii. I've never played a Metal Gear game, so I bought Twin Snakes. Hopefully I can also try out Resident Evil 4 eventually.

MGS1 is a g'damn masterpiece. It's one of those games that I had no qualms about playing through 3, 4, 5 times to completion. Can't speak for Twin Snakes but the original game on PS1 can be had for a song on eBay (maybe $15 or so).

Same with RE4 - must own! But get the GC version, not the Wii one.

[Nando]

I'm actually getting the Wii U. They are playing it safe, but it has some truly exciting games on it.

Yup, their core franchises is where it is at for sure, and I am actually kinda excited about Bayonetta. Also after seeing some E3 stuff, the vita is starting to look a bit better. Not much, but better than when it launched. I hope to get a Wii U come Xmas.

[wildfruit]

after owning at some stage or other almost every major console released in pal region (except for the amiga line which my parents couldnt afford at the time! and they are gouged on ebay now) i think ive had enough of keeping up to date
xbox one and ps4 doing nothing for me dont feel excited
majority of games are cross platform on ps/xbox anyway

nintendo vs sega, those were the days
and if you wanted to be refined games for dos/win 95   

[BlueBMW]

and if you wanted to be refined games for dos/win 95   

This was where it was at...

[PukeSter]

I just went to the Nintendo E3 at Best Buy. Only an hour wait. Mario 3D World is a great 4 player game, but you can only try one level and one game. I also got to pick a flimsy foam Luigi hat as my prize.

[TheClash603]

I just went to the Nintendo E3 at Best Buy. Only an hour wait. Mario 3D World is a great 4 player game, but you can only try one level and one game. I also got to pick a flimsy foam Luigi hat as my prize.

I went today too.  After 30 minutes I was able to watch the demos of all 4 games (DK, Mario 3D, Mario Kart, and Wind Waker) and I was sold.  Mario Land 3D is the best 3DS game hands down, cant wait to play more of the same.

I didn't get to play anything, because we signed up and the line wouldve been at least 90 minutes, though probably closer to 2 hours.  The thing was poorly planned, with 1 demo station and playtimes of 10-12 minutes per game.  The group playing Mario 3D finished their level and they said "you want to play another?"  Doesnt make sense with a huge line...

However, I got 2 free Luigi 30th anniversary coins which are awesome, some Mario Kart flags, Luigi hats, and some Wii U booklets for free.  There was also free coffee from the Kurig on display.  Overall, can't complain too much...  hope this happens again next year with maybe 2 to 4 displays at least.

[munchiaz]

I missed out on going to the best buy Wii u E3 thing. i had to practice KOF 13 that day for EVo coming up. I pre ordered a ps4, but i am not excited for it or the xbone. I pre order the ps4 just incase i change my mind. But i am happy with the Wii U and this holiday season will have some good games to get for sure.

[ParanoiaDragon]

"Amazon.com has recently conducted a user poll to ask customers which console they are more interested in between Xbox One and PS4. The result shows 38984 votes for PS4 and 2162 for Xbox One, a 94.7% in favor of PS4. The vote has ended early (original end date was Jun 20), given the clear lopsided results."

If these number are fairly accurate, M$ is going to be kicking themselves, & firing people during this next generation!