Dracula X (PC Engine) Vs Super Castlevania IV (SNES) - which game is better?

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Dracula X (PC Engine) Vs Super Castlevania IV (SNES) - which game is better?

Dracula X (PC Engine)
Super Castlevania IV (SNES)

Otaking

With the next versus I thought to change it up and go cross platform.
Dracula X (PC Engine) Vs Super Castlevania IV (SNES) which game is better?

This for me this is the most difficult battle yet to decide as I absolutely love both games.
But the winner in my opinion is Dracula X (PC Engine).

Oh and why was Dracula X on the SNES so rubbish, such a missed opportunity.


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Checkout the previous versus battles I've done so far:

Magical Chase Vs Cotton
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Super Star Soldier Vs Final Soldier
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=15568.0

Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=15639.0

Ys Book I & II (TGCD) Vs Zelda: A Link to the Past (SNES)
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=15766.0

Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of Thunder
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=15639.0
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turboswimbz

Dracula X becuase as I have finished both recently, and I only see myself going back to X for another play through. 


As I write that I find myself not believing that, I'm sure I'll replay both, often enough.

But X is on le Obey and one must Obey.
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SuperDeadite

Is this poll for real?  Not counting XX which shouldn't exist.... IV is the worst of the 16-bit series by far....
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Otaking

Quote from: SuperDeadite on 11/13/2013, 10:03 AMIs this poll for real?  Not counting XX which shouldn't exist.... IV is the worst of the 16-bit series by far....
IV is truly an amazing game, an absolute stone cold classic, for me it was a close battle between IV and PCE Drac X.

SNES Drac XX is a poor game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86jH2UQmvKY&t=812s
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seieienbu

I doubt anyone on here would claim Castlevania 4 to be better than Rondo. 

As much hate as it seems to get though, CV4 does a bunch of things really right!  I thought the soundtrack was really good for a snes game and I liked the look of it.  Yeah, it doesn't have CD audio but it still sounds good.  That being said, gameplay wise it feels the least like Castlevania of all the games in the series before Symphony of the Night.  The 8 way whip makes traversing the world incredibly easy when compared to the NES games.  It almost doesn't matter what subweapon you have when you can just attack at odd angles.
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SuperDeadite

Quote from: seieienbu on 11/13/2013, 11:12 AMI doubt anyone on here would claim Castlevania 4 to be better than Rondo. 

As much hate as it seems to get though, CV4 does a bunch of things really right!  I thought the soundtrack was really good for a snes game and I liked the look of it.  Yeah, it doesn't have CD audio but it still sounds good.  That being said, gameplay wise it feels the least like Castlevania of all the games in the series before Symphony of the Night.  The 8 way whip makes traversing the world incredibly easy when compared to the NES games.  It almost doesn't matter what subweapon you have when you can just attack at odd angles. 
Exactly.  Everyone has the right to their childhood memories, but the very poor stage design of IV puts it a distant 3rd behind PCE and MD games imo.  Axe Knights that have no possible way of hitting me is nothing but a waste of time.
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Otaking

Quote from: SuperDeadite on 11/13/2013, 11:35 AM
Quote from: seieienbu on 11/13/2013, 11:12 AMI doubt anyone on here would claim Castlevania 4 to be better than Rondo. 

As much hate as it seems to get though, CV4 does a bunch of things really right!  I thought the soundtrack was really good for a snes game and I liked the look of it.  Yeah, it doesn't have CD audio but it still sounds good.  That being said, gameplay wise it feels the least like Castlevania of all the games in the series before Symphony of the Night.  The 8 way whip makes traversing the world incredibly easy when compared to the NES games.  It almost doesn't matter what subweapon you have when you can just attack at odd angles. 
Exactly.  Everyone has the right to their childhood memories, but the very poor stage design of IV puts it a distant 3rd behind PCE and MD games imo.  Axe Knights that have no possible way of hitting me is nothing but a waste of time.
Wrong! Bloodlines/ Vampire Killer is the distant third.
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Nando

Rondo Wins it! I mean just look at the art style and color palette and replay value


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PunkCryborg

Whoever picked iv is keeping quiet, maybe its the same guy who wrote this bad article that also thinks iv is better than rondo
http://m.joystiq.com/2008/10/20/top-5-castlevania-games/

seieienbu

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bob

"The Adventure" for OG gameboy slays them both.
Fast paced action and ropes instead of stairs.  ROPES!  Just hanging in midair.  ROPES!

seieienbu

something about a whip shooting fireballs never sat well with me...
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Tatsujin

Lol, already two that probably have never played drac x or are just plain  retard :P
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Xak

Is this a joke topic? Dracula X in pretty much almost every category.
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SNKNostalgia

I really enjoyed SC4 when I played it in '94 (I was late to the party with not owning a SNES until then). The music is something to enjoy on the SNES along with just the overall atmosphere. So I have a bit more nostalgic moments with it along with Bloodlines.

I never got to play Dracula X for PCE until I got a Duo in 2000. It is definitely an overall better game than SC4 and it would be even more so if I played it around the time it came out.... especially due to the fact I played Symphony of The Night 4 years before it (JP and US versions). The soundtrack has the best of all the classic Castlevania games in redbook audio and very nice vibrant colors. More importantly, it has the best replay value of all the classic games and just the right challenge.

futureman2000


VestCunt

We've had community consensus on this since at least 2005.

Bonus props: putting this poll in the TG16 forum.
Topic Adjourned.

Psycho Punch

Quote from: Xak on 11/13/2013, 06:31 PMIs this a joke topic? Dracula X in pretty much almost every category.
But the most important question is: IS IT OFFICIAL????????????
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ToyMachine78

Dracula X. Not only did it give me a near religious experience, but the post caused a fight with half the regulars here lol :D

Sparky

Quote from: guest on 11/13/2013, 09:30 PMDracula X. Not only did it give me a near religious experience, but the post caused a fight with half the regulars here lol :D
I fight between friends always brings us closer (( hugs))

Tatsujin

Quote from: guest on 11/13/2013, 09:30 PMDracula X. Not only did it give me a near religious experience, but the post caused a fight with half the regulars here lol :D
Wrong. It wasn't your post that caused it, it was the way you choose topic names and your general aftermath behavior that caused it.
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Otaking

I've thought of my next game versus battle, might be quite controversial, good to stir things up on the forum.  :lol:
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jperryss

Quote from: HardcoreOtaku on 11/14/2013, 01:41 PMI've thought of my next game versus battle, might be quite controversial, good to stir things up on the forum.  :lol:
I tried to see if there'd been a Rondo/SOTN thread and couldn't find one. I'm surprised. I guess it's just not as fun as comparing Rondo to an older, cart-based launch title.

SOTN is definitely in my top3. And oh, the music...

NecroPhile

Quote from: jperryss on 11/14/2013, 04:51 PM
Quote from: HardcoreOtaku on 11/14/2013, 01:41 PMI've thought of my next game versus battle, might be quite controversial, good to stir things up on the forum.  :lol:
I tried to see if there'd been a Rondo/SOTN thread and couldn't find one. I'm surprised. I guess it's just not as fun as comparing Rondo to an older, cart-based launch title.
Hardly.  Rondo was compared to both Symphony o' the Night and Dracula XX in the screenshot comparison thread.
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Tatsujin

Lol can't believe that shit, number is up to 5.
am I in the wrong forum here?

PLEASE PEEPS IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED DRAC X , DON'T PARTICIPATE IN THIS POLL :!:
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Sadler

Huge fan of the "metroid-vania" games, with SotN at the very top of any Castlevania game. Even above Rondo. In terms of GBA games I'd say (best to not quite as best):

1) Circle of the Moon
2) Aria of Sorrow
3) Harmony of Dissonance

Yeah, CotM take the top spot. Amazing game and I do not understand the hate it gets. Aria is fantastic as well, but CotM takes top spot for me.

Battle.

Arena.

Tatsujin

Aria of Sorrow >>> Circle of the Moon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harmony of Dissonance
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jeffhlewis

Quote from: Tatsujin on 11/14/2013, 10:38 PMAria of Sorrow >>> Circle of the Moon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harmony of Dissonance
Agreed. AoS is damn near on par with Symphony. I do have a soft spot for Circle of the Moon just because the music was mind blowing when it came out. Harmony isn't a bad game but it was a complete nosedive in the music department.

Tatsujin

Quote from: jeffhlewis on 11/14/2013, 11:02 PMHarmony isn't a bad game but it was a complete nosedive in the music department.
right, it completely lives up to its name.
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seieienbu

Quote from: Sadler on 11/14/2013, 10:14 PMYeah, CotM take the top spot. Amazing game and I do not understand the hate it gets. Aria is fantastic as well, but CotM takes top spot for me.
I picked it up when I picked up my GBA at launch.  I got home and was super excited to play Circle of the moon and was super pissed off about how I couldn't see it well in any light that I had available to me.  Sunlight was a bit too bright and gave a rainbow sheen over the non-lit pixels while every other light source I had was just too dark.  I got to Dracula twice but just gave up against him as his dark sprite on a dark background that moved around rapidly was just too hard to see.  Maybe I'll go back and play the game on emulator or DS at some point.
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awack

Damn, im I the only person who likes Dracula xx, I like it a bit better than SCIV, fighting enemies and Bosses is actually fun in Drac xx... in SCIV, not so much. Dracula XX does have few problems with its gameplay though.

jperryss

Quote from: awack on 11/15/2013, 05:15 AMDamn, im I the only person who likes Dracula xx, I like it a bit better than SCIV, fighting enemies and Bosses is actually fun in Drac xx... in SCIV, not so much. Dracula XX does have few problems with its gameplay though.
It's not that bad. People complain about the graphics but my biggest complaint was the level design. There are some screens that I think "shouldn't there be enemies here"? It's like they never finished it.

Sadler

Quote from: seieienbu on 11/15/2013, 02:04 AM
Quote from: Sadler on 11/14/2013, 10:14 PMYeah, CotM take the top spot. Amazing game and I do not understand the hate it gets. Aria is fantastic as well, but CotM takes top spot for me.
I picked it up when I picked up my GBA at launch.  I got home and was super excited to play Circle of the moon and was super pissed off about how I couldn't see it well in any light that I had available to me.  Sunlight was a bit too bright and gave a rainbow sheen over the non-lit pixels while every other light source I had was just too dark.  I got to Dracula twice but just gave up against him as his dark sprite on a dark background that moved around rapidly was just too hard to see.  Maybe I'll go back and play the game on emulator or DS at some point.
Ahh, that makes more sense. I played it on a GBA player for the GameCube. That probably skews my opinion.

Nando

Quote from: seieienbu on 11/15/2013, 02:04 AM
Quote from: Sadler on 11/14/2013, 10:14 PMYeah, CotM take the top spot. Amazing game and I do not understand the hate it gets. Aria is fantastic as well, but CotM takes top spot for me.
I picked it up when I picked up my GBA at launch.  I got home and was super excited to play Circle of the moon and was super pissed off about how I couldn't see it well in any light that I had available to me.  Sunlight was a bit too bright and gave a rainbow sheen over the non-lit pixels while every other light source I had was just too dark.  I got to Dracula twice but just gave up against him as his dark sprite on a dark background that moved around rapidly was just too hard to see.  Maybe I'll go back and play the game on emulator or DS at some point.
I tried to like the GBA but man that screen. The SP is WAY better. I need to hunt down some Castlevania games.

Xak

^ I play the GBA games on my TV. There is so much detail in the backgrounds in Castlevania the first GBA one. Have yet to play the others.
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JoshTurboTrollX

I'm in the boat where I think these two games are really close to 'perfect' castlevania games.  I love the control scheme of Simon in CV4 with the whip ability and directional options.  I think that gameplay and level variations keep it separate from DracX so much that I have respect for each game.

If I made my top 3 Castlevania games it would go-
1a- Rondo
1b Castlevania IV
3 - Castlevania III
Depending on my mood, sometimes while playing Super Castlevania I think to myself- 'Damn this is the finest Castlevania game ever created!'...

I first played CV4 in 1992 when I picked it up for SNES, but never played Rondo until 1997 when I finally acquired it for the Duo.  That 5 year gap had me playing CV4 when I was an impressionable 13 years old and I hit adulthood (a mere 18) when I finally got teh OBEY 'Vania realm.

This might skew my opinion on the games a bit, but I still usually dub Dracula X as the best Castlevania game of all times.  If I had played it when it first came out, who knows how much it would have blown my mind of minds!!

Also, I really do enjoy Bloodlines and would rank it somewhere after the original NES game but slightly better than Symphony.  Somewhere around the X68k/Chronicles and Castlevania Adventure Rebirth games.  :)

</ 2 cents>
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Xak

I personally love Castlevania Chronicles and Castlevania 2 (2013 retranslated version) the most. As crazy as it sounds.
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jeffhlewis

Any top 5 list without x68000 Akumajou Dracula in it somewhere is garbage

GohanX

I really do enjoy Castlevania IV, but it's not in the same league as Rondo.

Dracula X > Bloodlines > Castlvania IV >>>>>>>>> Dracula XX (I hate this game.)

Tatsujin

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Nando

Quote from: Xak on 11/15/2013, 09:57 AM^ I play the GBA games on my TV. There is so much detail in the backgrounds in Castlevania the first GBA one. Have yet to play the others.
I emulated this on a phone with an OLED..OMG THE COLORS!!!! wish the GameCube GBA adapter didn't wash out the color range.

CrackTiger

Quote from: jeffhlewis on 11/15/2013, 10:29 AMAny top 5 list without x68000 Akumajou Dracula in it somewhere is garbage
What about a console game list?
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Otaking

Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 11/15/2013, 10:08 AMI'm in the boat where I think these two games are really close to 'perfect' castlevania games.  I love the control scheme of Simon in CV4 with the whip ability and directional options.  I think that gameplay and level variations keep it separate from DracX so much that I have respect for each game.

If I made my top 3 Castlevania games it would go-
1a- Rondo
1b Castlevania IV
3 - Castlevania III
Depending on my mood, sometimes while playing Super Castlevania I think to myself- 'Damn this is the finest Castlevania game ever created!'...

I first played CV4 in 1992 when I picked it up for SNES, but never played Rondo until 1997 when I finally acquired it for the Duo.  That 5 year gap had me playing CV4 when I was an impressionable 13 years old and I hit adulthood (a mere 18) when I finally got teh OBEY 'Vania realm.

This might skew my opinion on the games a bit, but I still usually dub Dracula X as the best Castlevania game of all times.  If I had played it when it first came out, who knows how much it would have blown my mind of minds!!

Also, I really do enjoy Bloodlines and would rank it somewhere after the original NES game but slightly better than Symphony.  Somewhere around the X68k/Chronicles and Castlevania Adventure Rebirth games.  :)

</ 2 cents>
Finally! Bravo! I totally agree with everything you said except my top 3 would be different.  :D



Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 11/15/2013, 10:08 AMIf I made my top 3 Castlevania games it would go-
1a- Rondo
1b Castlevania IV
3 - Castlevania III
If I made my top 3 Castlevania games it would go-
1a - Rondo
1b - Castlevania IV
3 - SOTN


Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 11/15/2013, 10:08 AMI first played CV4 in 1992 when I picked it up for SNES, but never played Rondo until 1997 when I finally acquired it for the Duo.  That 5 year gap had me playing CV4 when I was an impressionable 13 years old and I hit adulthood (a mere 18) when I finally got teh OBEY 'Vania realm.

This might skew my opinion on the games a bit, but I still usually dub Dracula X as the best Castlevania game of all times.  If I had played it when it first came out, who knows how much it would have blown my mind of minds!!
I played both games when they were released  :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86jH2UQmvKY&t=812s
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Otaking

Quote from: jperryss on 11/14/2013, 04:51 PM
Quote from: HardcoreOtaku on 11/14/2013, 01:41 PMI've thought of my next game versus battle, might be quite controversial, good to stir things up on the forum.  :lol:
I tried to see if there'd been a Rondo/SOTN thread and couldn't find one. I'm surprised. I guess it's just not as fun as comparing Rondo to an older, cart-based launch title.

SOTN is definitely in my top3. And oh, the music...
I thought of doing a versus battle of Rondo Vs SOTN but decided on IV instead.
I've now thought of the next three versus battles I want to do, I might do Rondo Vs SOTN after that.
 :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86jH2UQmvKY&t=812s
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