It's over.

[mossman43]

That's fine, but again I'll say that you are on a fool's errand here.  As has already been stated, the Turbo market has gone crazy because people like you are willing to pay whatever because you "need" these games.  Just about all of us here maintain game libraries because we love old games, not because we collect them like stamps.  Because when they game becomes that valuable, it's no longer practical to spend the money when all you want to do is play it.  Especially when it's Japanese counterpart is so much cheaper.  Or you could just buy a Turbo Everdrive, which would allow you to play it (in English) while still having the Japanese version to fill the hole in your collection.  So anyone who is willing to spend $5k on a game is either:

A: Filthy Rich.
B: Incredibly irresponsible.
C: Speculating.

Unless you're "A", you aren't going to get much play here.  As has already been pointed out to you, we tend to resent people like you for the reason that I and others have already stated.  You would be better off taking your request somewhere like the Neo-Geo forums, or just wait until one pops up on eBay.

I can respect that. Turbo/PCE are my favorite consoles and I would truthfully rather be around here with the people that love the system as well . Sorry if my crazy offer offended anyone because that was not my intention in any way. Fuck the MC, I'll be around here for the posting of other shit, but I'll let this die.

[mossman43]

Mister Moss,

I'm writing to you because I have been in your shoes. I know you meant no offense by your presence here or your enquiry as to the acquisition of the "white whale", if you will. For some reason, or no reason, you have found yourself in the cross hairs of many prominent individuals in this community. You didn't intend for this to happen, but you're no pushover so you're not going to let this go unchecked.

You are justified in your desire to defend your desire to possess Magical Chase. I envy your disposable income, and I'm certain you are something akin to a rocket surgeon. I am, too, but all of my millions were wrapped up in the development of the Magical Chaise. Perhaps you saw it a few posts up? It is still for sale.

Anyway, i just wanted to let you know that the very people who are attacking you are awesome guys. If you enjoy gaming more than collecting, you and they will get along. I enjoy both, but have the resources for neither (my time and trust were donated to aids research and time travel). The advice you are receiving, nay, being force fed... like it or not, is not going to change. A $5k complete magical chase is possible. But pursuing the hunt here will not be productive. I don't personally fault you for trying. This forum has its own set of social norms that don't exactly come intuitively to many (myself included).

Just stick around, obey, and find Magical Chase some other day. We will celebrate your fortune on that day, because we'll all be buds by then. Or not. Choose your own adventure, y via condios, amigo.

Sincerely,
null

edit: goddamn... I need to get faster at phone typing. You already posted like a bazillion nanoseconds ago...

Thank you very much, great advice and thanks for understanding what I was intending to do. I appreciate your words!

[HailingTheThings]

Mister Moss,

I'm writing to you because I have been in your shoes. I know you meant no offense by your presence here or your enquiry as to the acquisition of the "white whale", if you will. For some reason, or no reason, you have found yourself in the cross hairs of many prominent individuals in this community. You didn't intend for this to happen, but you're no pushover so you're not going to let this go unchecked.

You are justified in your desire to defend your desire to possess Magical Chase. I envy your disposable income, and I'm certain you are something akin to a rocket surgeon. I am, too, but all of my millions were wrapped up in the development of the Magical Chaise. Perhaps you saw it a few posts up? It is still for sale.

Anyway, i just wanted to let you know that the very people who are attacking you are awesome guys. If you enjoy gaming more than collecting, you and they will get along. I enjoy both, but have the resources for neither (my time and trust were donated to aids research and time travel). The advice you are receiving, nay, being force fed... like it or not, is not going to change. A $5k complete magical chase is possible. But pursuing the hunt here will not be productive. I don't personally fault you for trying. This forum has its own set of social norms that don't exactly come intuitively to many (myself included).

Just stick around, obey, and find Magical Chase some other day. We will celebrate your fortune on that day, because we'll all be buds by then. Or not. Choose your own adventure, y via condios, amigo.

Sincerely,
null

edit: goddamn... I need to get faster at phone typing. You already posted like a bazillion nanoseconds ago...

Super-cute. :3

[Tatsujin]

That's fine, but again I'll say that you are on a fool's errand here.  As has already been stated, the Turbo market has gone crazy because people like you are willing to pay whatever because you "need" these games.  Just about all of us here maintain game libraries because we love old games, not because we collect them like stamps.  Because when they game becomes that valuable, it's no longer practical to spend the money when all you want to do is play it.  Especially when it's Japanese counterpart is so much cheaper.  Or you could just buy a Turbo Everdrive, which would allow you to play it (in English) while still having the Japanese version to fill the hole in your collection.  So anyone who is willing to spend $5k on a game is either:

A: Filthy Rich.
B: Incredibly irresponsible.
C: Speculating.

Unless you're "A", you aren't going to get much play here.  As has already been pointed out to you, we tend to resent people like you for the reason that I and others have already stated.  You would be better off taking your request somewhere like the Neo-Geo forums, or just wait until one pops up on eBay.

I can respect that. Turbo/PCE are my favorite consoles and I would truthfully rather be around here with the people that love the system as well . Sorry if my crazy offer offended anyone because that was not my intention in any way. Fuck the MC, I'll be around here for the posting of other shit, but I'll let this die.

certainly didn't wan't to be an asshole here, just the your mentioned point of not understanding the even so little text in a pure shoot 'em up is beyond my understandings as a valid point. certainly not worth of paying like 30x more for a game that is already expensive in its original form imho. if it were an RPG e.g. it would be whole different rabbit hole for sure.

[mrhaboobi]

Well said ;) You dont want to get on the wrong side of certain peoples on the forums, you will be instantly put on ignore ;)..  for what its worth though i think 5k is insane though.. it maybe the "market rate" ( ebay rate that is ) but man its a hard one to accept.  id never have owned the game myself if i didnt get lucky with my wife finding it for sale on Yahoo Japan of all places, and i kick myself now for turning down complete versions i saw on there at the same time for 250 USD not that many years ago.. 5k buys alot of stuff ( and yes im taking about the us versions, how they got to japan i dont know )

You might like to speak to an ex member called wmac, he too put up some large offers and eventually walked away with a sealed version for something like 5k, he collections seems to come and go quickly so maybe the right offer would see him sell his copy or he may know someone who knows someone who will part with the game..

Mister Moss,

I'm writing to you because I have been in your shoes. I know you meant no offense by your presence here or your enquiry as to the acquisition of the "white whale", if you will. For some reason, or no reason, you have found yourself in the cross hairs of many prominent individuals in this community. You didn't intend for this to happen, but you're no pushover so you're not going to let this go unchecked.

You are justified in your desire to defend your desire to possess Magical Chase. I envy your disposable income, and I'm certain you are something akin to a rocket surgeon. I am, too, but all of my millions were wrapped up in the development of the Magical Chaise. Perhaps you saw it a few posts up? It is still for sale.

Anyway, i just wanted to let you know that the very people who are attacking you are awesome guys. If you enjoy gaming more than collecting, you and they will get along. I enjoy both, but have the resources for neither (my time and trust were donated to aids research and time travel). The advice you are receiving, nay, being force fed... like it or not, is not going to change. A $5k complete magical chase is possible. But pursuing the hunt here will not be productive. I don't personally fault you for trying. This forum has its own set of social norms that don't exactly come intuitively to many (myself included).

Just stick around, obey, and find Magical Chase some other day. We will celebrate your fortune on that day, because we'll all be buds by then. Or not. Choose your own adventure, y via condios, amigo.

Sincerely,
null

edit: goddamn... I need to get faster at phone typing. You already posted like a bazillion nanoseconds ago...

[Tatsujin]

BTW. while we're just speaking of $5000..

wayback.thebrothersduomazov.com/2013/05/the-magical-chase-conundrum.html

[mossman43]

certainly didn't wan't to be an asshole here, just the your mentioned point of not understanding the even so little text in a pure shoot 'em up is beyond my understandings as a valid point. certainly not worth of paying like 30x more for a game that is already expensive in its original form imho. if it were an RPG e.g. it would be whole different rabbit hole for sure.[/quote]
It's cool. I did order the PCE Cotton because I heard that all you have to do is press the select button at the main menu and it switches to English text which I think is great!

[Tatsujin]

Is it Tony or Hawk about to stab ole' whats-her-name? Or is it Tony Hawk? I've never trusted skateboarders... (no offense, gamehead)

lolwuz?

[Tatsujin]

[bob]

And Tony Hawk Iis a pro skateboarder.  And I don't trust skateboarders

careful.

[Tatsujin]

And Tony Hawk Iis a pro skateboarder.  And I don't trust skateboarders

careful.

wis dat axe eugene!!

[Tatsujin]

Hahaha.... I'm about to piss myself from all the FB lulz this thread has generated!

[Psycho Punch]

Finishing JB Harold and beating Sherlock Holmes' score on all six cases doesn't count as a real career, you know.

[Tatsujin]

I'm done with this thread. Let it die.

only after all teh lulzair is out 

we're all here for le fun, even when it's at the expense of others..haha.

no, just have some fun and hand over everything else to the natural development 

[Arkhan Asylum]

Again, it's easy to sit here and talk shit

Yeah, you're doing this yourself.

, but if you actually knew me personally, you would respect the things I do.

I don't respect anyone who spends 5000$ on a shitty game.

Don't pretend to know me bud, because you don't.

See, if only you'd actually posted more than like 40 times.  We'd all know each other!

You're doing a fine job of pretending you know all about all of us.


You're basically the outsider, looking in.    The random dude in the corner that is suddenly trying to act like he's been here the whole time, and wants to get in on some shit.


My suggestions are:

1) Play the Japanese one.  It's the same shit.  If you need English in a shooter, I question your education and brain functionality in general.
2) Save the 5000$ to buy something much more useful.   
3) Play all of the other games the PC Engine has to offer, because Magical Chase is at the middle of the list of "shit you should play sometime soon"


It's overrated.   People notice it because of the pricetag.   If it were a throwaway 10$ game, nobody would give a fuck.   


It's Cotton for retards.

[mossman43]

I'm done with this thread. Let it die.

only after all teh lulzair is out 

we're all here for le fun, even when it's at the expense of others..haha.

no, just have some fun and hand over everything else to the natural development 

Yeah, I guess at the very least I brought you guys some enjoyment! You're welcome !! Now, who's got a copy for sale for 3K?

[mossman43]

Again, it's easy to sit here and talk shit

Yeah, you're doing this yourself.

, but if you actually knew me personally, you would respect the things I do.

I don't respect anyone who spends 5000$ on a shitty game.

Don't pretend to know me bud, because you don't.

See, if only you'd actually posted more than like 40 times.  We'd all know each other!

You're doing a fine job of pretending you know all about all of us.


You're basically the outsider, looking in.    The random dude in the corner that is suddenly trying to act like he's been here the whole time, and wants to get in on some shit.


My suggestions are:

1) Play the Japanese one.  It's the same shit.  If you need English in a shooter, I question your education and brain functionality in general.
2) Save the 5000$ to buy something much more useful.   
3) Play all of the other games the PC Engine has to offer, because Magical Chase is at the middle of the list of "shit you should play sometime soon"


It's overrated.   People notice it because of the pricetag.   If it were a throwaway 10$ game, nobody would give a fuck.   


It's Cotton for retards.

Understood. I thought all of this would have happened if I came here with a lowball number, didn't think if be attacked for wanting to pay ebay prices, but I get that you guys are against that shit. But now let me ask this, with this waiting line, does the game ever change hands between members here? And if so, what is it sold for? How do you guys base the prices?

[pc_kwajalein]

Heh, I remember the flack I caught on another board for winning a sealed NES Bonk's Adventure on eBay back in 2002. It wasn't like I went on the board and asked for it; someone linked the auction then saw I was the highest bidder then shit ran like water splashed into my face. Ah... good times. lol

[RoyVegas]

But now let me ask this, with this waiting line, does the game ever change hands between members here? And if so, what is it sold for? How do you guys base the prices?

A.   The line is just a joke.
B.  Yes it changes hands here.
C.  I sold a Magical Chase with manual to another member here for $750. He can speak up if he wishes.
D.  Price is based on whatever the seller feels like.

[NecroPhile]

The last one I had I traded for a half-eaten bag of Skittles and a copy of Hany.   

[Arkhan Asylum]

I've never had it because the Japanese one is just as good and doesn't cost 5000$

[CrackTiger]

Again, it's easy to sit here and talk shit

Yeah, you're doing this yourself.

, but if you actually knew me personally, you would respect the things I do.

I don't respect anyone who spends 5000$ on a shitty game.

Don't pretend to know me bud, because you don't.

See, if only you'd actually posted more than like 40 times.  We'd all know each other!

You're doing a fine job of pretending you know all about all of us.


You're basically the outsider, looking in.    The random dude in the corner that is suddenly trying to act like he's been here the whole time, and wants to get in on some shit.


My suggestions are:

1) Play the Japanese one.  It's the same shit.  If you need English in a shooter, I question your education and brain functionality in general.
2) Save the 5000$ to buy something much more useful.   
3) Play all of the other games the PC Engine has to offer, because Magical Chase is at the middle of the list of "shit you should play sometime soon"


It's overrated.   People notice it because of the pricetag.   If it were a throwaway 10$ game, nobody would give a fuck.   


It's Cotton for retards.

Understood. I thought all of this would have happened if I came here with a lowball number, didn't think if be attacked for wanting to pay ebay prices, but I get that you guys are against that shit. But now let me ask this, with this waiting line, does the game ever change hands between members here? And if so, what is it sold for? How do you guys base the prices?

Games of many prices ranges to collectors are given away free (including shipping) all the time here. This isn't an investment portfolio community like some "retro" game forums and is not comparable.

That "waiting line" is a joke around here, although it was created seriously by someone like you who just had to have a "complete" "collection".

[MotherGunner]

I'm done with this thread. Let it die.

[xcrement5x]

ROLF!

[Sparky]

Games of many prices ranges to collectors are given away free (including shipping) all the time here. This isn't an investment portfolio community like some "retro" game forums and is not comparable.

short and sweetly said.

[greedostick]

Maybe he hasn't posted here over the years much for the same reason I haven't. Because whenever he did post he was bombarded by rude comments and people who try and make you feel stupid. I'm a member of pretty much every popular video game forum out there. And this forum is by far the least welcoming of the bunch. Not very homely here till you are accepted. I love the Turbo and right now that's the only reason I come here. Hopefully that will change someday.

If he wants to spend tons of money on a game that's his decision. Maybe he makes 2k a week and can afford it. Is there seriously a wait list for Magical Chase? You can't just assume people are going to know all the rules around here regarding getting in line for a expensive game.

People just need to relax !round here and welcome people, and explain things to them in a courteous manner.

[Sparky]

Don't generalize man, as a lot of new comers come and are welcomed here with open arms, it is a small hand full that get in trouble and a lot of time it is lack of common sense...

"oh look I am new here, I am going to sell my stuff at ebay prices" OR
"hey, I am sure this has not been asked but I want MC and I will pay top dollar"

Take the time and look around and use some common sense... geeezzzzz.

[munchiaz]

Maybe he hasn't posted here over the years much for the same reason I haven't. Because whenever he did post he was bombarded by rude comments and people who try and make you feel stupid. I'm a member of pretty much every popular video game forum out there. And this forum is by far the least welcoming of the bunch. Not very homely here till you are accepted. I love the Turbo and right now that's the only reason I come here. Hopefully that will change someday.

If he wants to spend tons of money on a game that's his decision. Maybe he makes 2k a week and can afford it. Is there seriously a wait list for Magical Chase? You can't just assume people are going to know all the rules around here regarding getting in line for a expensive game.

People just need to relax !round here and welcome people, and explain things to them in a courteous manner.

I don't believe that at all. I didn't get into the turbo grafx until 2011. So i knew practically nothing about the console. I joined this forum, and i was welcomed with open arms. I also took the time to do research and try to answer questions i had on my own, instead of just relying on others to answer everything for me. So maybe if you and OP actually participated it the forum (that's what a forum is for right) you wouldn't feel the way you do now.

[mrhaboobi]

so can i ask a really political question..

If a new person came to the forums, with a stack of hard to get items not just expensive but actually hard to get stuff and said openly, "hey guys im new here, im selling my collection, this seems to be the location that is interested in this gear, i want it to go to a person who will appreciate it, heres what i want price wise" and lets assume his prices were close to ebay prices.  would you

1. be pissed off, abuse the guy for ebay pricing and not buy his goods.
2. be pissed off, talk to the guy try and offer something you felt comfortable paying
3. be happy that you had a chance to maybe buy that very hard to find item and not have to compete with ebay trolls and the chance of the price sky rocketing even further?


I think i know which category a large proportion of people will fall into, im just interested to see.

[MotherGunner]

Maybe he hasn't posted here over the years much for the same reason I haven't. Because whenever he did post he was bombarded by rude comments and people who try and make you feel stupid. I'm a member of pretty much every popular video game forum out there. And this forum is by far the least welcoming of the bunch. Not very homely here till you are accepted. I love the Turbo and right now that's the only reason I come here. Hopefully that will change someday.

LOL@Greedo

[Dicer]

Should I jump on the PCE one for $390?

[RoyVegas]

Should I jump on the PCE one for $390?

Is that a joke?  FUCK NO.

[Tatsujin]

[munchiaz]

The reason why Greedostick defends the OP

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?249697-Want-to-trade-for-Magical-Chase-and-Dynastic-Hero-Will-trade-V-Special-NVS-Progear-etc

 

[greedostick]

I'm not defending anyone. I don't even know that guy. And even though this is some old post or whatever I still feel like what I said applies to some new members and should be taken into consideration by some of the members here. People should treat people the way they would want to be treated and not say anything they wouldn't say to their face at all.

And who cares if I posted on the neo forums? Im a long time member there. I own valuable items of equal rarity of magical chase and dynastic hero. Do you own Samurai Showdown V Special or a dedicated Neo Geo Arcade Cabinet to trade to a neo geo member? Is there a rule here that we can't look elsewhere for rare titles? What about eBay? Do I need permission here to bid on EBay? What about in the wild? If I find Dynastic Hero in the wild must I get an OK from members here before purchasing?

[munchiaz]

I'm not defending anyone. I don't even know that guy. And even though this is some old post or whatever I still feel like what I said applies to some new members and should be taken into consideration by some of the members here. People should treat people the way they would want to be treated and not say anything they wouldn't say to their face at all.

And who cares if I posted on the neo forums? Im a long time member there. I own valuable items of equal rarity of magical chase and dynastic hero. Do you own Samurai Showdown V Special or a dedicated Neo Geo Arcade Cabinet to trade to a neo geo member? Is there a rule here that we can't look elsewhere for rare titles? What about eBay? Do I need permission here to bid on EBay? What about in the wild? If I find Dynastic Hero in the wild must I get an OK from members here before purchasing?

when did anyone say you need permission to post up on another forum. I simply said you defended OP because you to want MC as well.  I find it funny.

[bob]

Maybe he hasn't posted here over the years much for the same reason I haven't. Because whenever he did post he was bombarded by rude comments and people who try and make you feel stupid. I'm a member of pretty much every popular video game forum out there. And this forum is by far the least welcoming of the bunch. Not very homely here till you are accepted.

This forum may feel that way, but it's also largely unmoderated and people say what they want.
Places like NG and NA are heavily moderated so everybody better hold hands and give each other facials over RAREZ and VGA GRADES or you get the boot.  Communist sites make Steve McTableChair angry.

[mossman43]

I got a mint complete one coming! Thanks to the person that PM'ed me because he didn't want any of the other members to give him shit! Cheaper than I offered too!!

[Bernie]

Damn I wish it were me..    Then I could get some of the goodies for the system I want.  Glad you found one man, just open that biatch and play it though!!!

[mossman43]

Thank you! It's not sealed, just complete.

[sirhcman]

I got a mint complete one coming! Thanks to the person that PM'ed me because he didn't want any of the other members to give him shit! Cheaper than I offered too!!

Congrats! Don't forget to post pics here of the game once you get it!

[greedostick]

Maybe he hasn't posted here over the years much for the same reason I haven't. Because whenever he did post he was bombarded by rude comments and people who try and make you feel stupid. I'm a member of pretty much every popular video game forum out there. And this forum is by far the least welcoming of the bunch. Not very homely here till you are accepted.

This forum may feel that way, but it's also largely unmoderated and people say what they want.
Places like NG and NA are heavily moderated so everybody better hold hands and give each other facials over RAREZ and VGA GRADES or you get the boot.  Communist sites make Steve McTableChair angry.

I hope so Galam. I was thinking the other day how awesome it would be to try and get a Columbus Ohio TurboCamp meetup in the works like we do on the neo forums. Sometimes they can be a lot of fun. Just a bunch of dudes, a pc engine, a duo tap and some serious gaming and competition. We had epic Magical Drop and Last Blade matches in Neo meetups in the past. Some dungeon explorer 2 arena action would be awesome cause I have no Idea what it is.

[InfraMan]

You're welcome, mossman. Every one else, i still have plenty available,  pm me if you want one.

magicalchase.jpg

Sweet, I could really use one of those for my Magical Ches:

[BlueBMW]

I hope so Galem. I was thinking the other day how awesome it would be to try and get a Columbus Ohio TurboCamp meetup in the works like we do on the neo forums. Sometimes they can be a lot of fun. Just a bunch of dudes, a pc engine, a duo tap and some serious gaming and competition. We had epic Magical Drop and Last Blade matches in Neo meetups in the past. Some dungeon explorer 2 arena action would be awesome cause I have no Idea what it is.

A group of us gets together usually twice a year in the Chicago area for the Video Game Summit in July and Octurbofest in... well.. October.

[Arkhan Asylum]

People should treat people the way they would want to be treated and not say anything they wouldn't say to their face at all.

If I spent 5000$ on one mediocre game, I would want people to call me a fucktard until I understand.

Also, if I saw someone pay 5000$ in person for Magical Chase, I'd tell them they're a fucking moron.   Guaranteed.    I'd point and laugh until they feel bad about it and wish they hadn't done it.  That way, maybe next time, they'll think a bit before they go HGNGNFDGNFD TAKE MY MONEY I NEED GAME.

Someone was asking 1200$ for a sealed Chrono Trigger at a game convention up here in Cleveland, and I laughed at him and called him a "fucking dumbdick", right to his face and pointed and laughed at him when the convention was wrapping up and he was putting it back in his bin to take home because nobody was dumb enough to buy it.


I don't get this thing on the internet where people who are getting flamed assume the people doing it wouldn't do it to their face.   I guarantee you basically everyone here would call someone stupid in person if this stuff was going on in front of them.    This forum is full of the most genuine people on any forum I've ever gone to.   What you see on here is what you get in person.  For the most part.



The point is, some people suck at money and do dumb shit with it just because they can.  They think OH ITS MINE I'M ENTITLED TO DO WHAT I WANT WITH IT.

...and they never stop to realize they are furthering the problem, because they're self centered.   It's irresponsible.  It's disrespectful.   It literally ruins the hobby for tons of people because it causes all the prices to go up, which makes the entry price go up, which drives new people away. 

also, I make enough that I could buy a Magical Chase for 5000$, no problem. 

Doesn't mean I'm going to, because holyshit.  5000$ for one game is the definition of dumb.



as for what Haboobi said, it depends what a person is selling.   If you show up here with some srs as fuck one of a kind items, or ACTUALLY hard to find/valuable items, I'd be ok with the expected prices that will be obnoxious.   If you want collector/ebay prices for stuff anyone could go find, I'd be sure to point out that the prices suck, and would haggle.  Assuming they have something I want.   If they are adamant about shit prices, even after the advice of many, you can expect me to tell that person they're a dumbass.

The fact that Magical Chase costs more than the Develo books + Box + an MSX to run it all on, AND a PC Engine Duo to go with all of it, proves that people are complete idiots and don't understand what they are doing.

and if you don't like being called an idiot, stop being an idiot.

It's pretty simple. 


EDIT: Also.

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=16241.0

This.    This is what you cunts with no self control are doing to gaming.   Even the Japanese are becoming hip to the fact that round eye is a fuckhead and will pay just about anything for a shiny game that isn't worth dick.

Soon, we will have nowhere to find games at reasonable prices, and it will be all of you that get the blame.

[Sparky]

I own valuable items of equal rarity of magical chase and dynastic hero.

So? What's with the dick waving? It is not about what you got its how you use it

[Tatsujin]

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[mrhaboobi]

I used to think mc was expensive when I saw it for 250, I swore I wouldnt/couldn't spent that money on a single game,  I'd jump on one for 250 now.  I remember I paid 60 for the magical chase manual, at the time i was going to turn it down, seemed stupid to spend 60 on a manual, wtf is wrong with me spending that, now I'd pay that to get one in the condition I'd like.   In another few years I hate to think what mc will cost.  I guess what I don't understand is if people think mc isn't a good game, then do you really care what it sells for, if just one game in a collection was as expensive as mc, but is a shitty game, then does it matter?  Or is it just that its shitty due to the price . 

The problem I have is other games going up in price, so if the price increases were just around mc then really it's just going to impact the collector who wants a complete set, not the player who wants to play the good games.  I'd take rtype or tonma game play wise over mc any day of the week.

[greedostick]

I used to think mc was expensive when I saw it for 250, I swore I wouldnt/couldn't spent that money on a single game,  I'd jump on one for 250 now.  I remember I paid 60 for the magical chase manual, at the time i was going to turn it down, seemed stupid to spend 60 on a manual, wtf is wrong with me spending that, now I'd pay that to get one in the condition I'd like.   In another few years I hate to think what mc will cost.  I guess what I don't understand is if people think mc isn't a good game, then do you really care what it sells for, if just one game in a collection was as expensive as mc, but is a shitty game, then does it matter?  Or is it just that its shitty due to the price . 

The problem I have is other games going up in price, so if the price increases were just around mc then really it's just going to impact the collector who wants a complete set, not the player who wants to play the good games.  I'd take rtype or tonma game play wise over mc any day of the week.

People who don't think its good and do want it, want it for one of two reasons.

1. To complete a English collection.
2. Because some people just want anything rare.

Both of which in my opinion are not good reasons. I hate when people say " I want that game, it's just so rare." Games are meant to be played not displayed. That's why I hate sealed collecting and VGA grading bull $h1t.

As far as rare Turbografx games and prices are concerned, it's not going to get better. People can complain about people raising prices with impulse eBay purchases, but it is the destiny of the games to climb in value, at least as long as there is working hardware to enjoy it. And with the rapid progression of clone consoles this may not be in our lifetime. We are having this exact discussion over at Digitpress, and its not just Magical Chase and Dynastic Hero. Its all rare or good games, specifically RPG's and SHMUPS. Many games have doubled up to 5X. Panzer Dragon Saga, Hagane, Earthbound, Shining Force CD, Keio Flying Squadron, and pretty much every Neo Geo AES & MVS title. Video games are following the same paths as all collectable items. Comics, baseball cards, vinyl records, coins, etch

If MC or Dynastic Hero raise in price so what. Because unlike all those SNES common RPG squaresoft titles and Earthbound, at least they are genuinely rare titles. If any games deserve to be insanely priced it's these 2 games. Actual rare games commanding high prices is not annoying, its expected as is any rare collectible item. Things could be much worse, try collecting Beatles records on vinyl, or 1950'svand earlier baseball cards. What is annoying are effing Nintendo fan boys driving up extra common good games like Chrono Trigger, every Final Fantasy, and Earthbound.

These are dark days for getting into game collecting. Especially with the economy. Would you rather spend 20 bucks at the movies for 2.5 hours? Or invest $50.00 in a rare retro game worth unlimited hours of enjoyment? People want the most cost effective bang for their buck and reliving your childhood is the perfect way to do so. But once you get a taste of retro gaming you always look for that next fix. That's when people tend to get out of hand and start spending crazy amounts.

[Tatsujin]

@ Mr. Moss

just out of pure curriosity. how much did he take from you?