Turbo Obsessed

[warpig227]

So I'm pretty new to the whole turbo grafx pce thing, and i was a heavy collector of nintendo products but once i got a turbo i can't seem to play anything else at all. is it just because its new to me ? or do you all feel it is far superior than most systems in fun.

[VestCunt]

or do you all feel it is far superior than most systems in fun.

Yeah, basically. The hardware is better than the Genesis, the software is more varied and innovative than the SNES, and the gameplay spans the best of both 8- and 16-bit eras. I enjoy other consoles, but the TG16 is my "desert island" system.

[InfraMan]

The newness factor always helps when you first get into collecting for a different system. I find that I have temporary tunnel vision when it comes to retro gaming... when I first get into a new system, I'll collect for it almost exclusively for a month or two. After that, I'll get back into a regular groove of jumping from system to system.

There are certain ones I go back to more than others, though. I really have a soft spot for the early-to-mid 90s CD-based consoles for some reason... it's interesting to see how developers were trying to figure out what to do with this new format. Plus, I really love the semi-sort-of animated cutscenes that were so popular at the time. For that reason, I don't think I'll ever get tired of the Duo (or its slightly "special" cousin, the Sega CD).

[Tatsujin]

yes, all of us (at leats those with a right portion of sense and brains) do feel it that way.

congrats, you seem to be just one of them

and welcome to the obey farm

[jtucci31]

I feel the same way. I was big into anything Nintendo and now having Obeyed, nothing seems to compare to it. It has become my go-to system and the peak of my interest. And there's no turning back now!

[pc_kwajalein]

My fondness for TG-16 came when I played Lengendary Axe and Bonk's Revenge. I traded my SNES for a Turbo but eventually got another SNES as I was having Gradius III and NBA Jam withdrawals. Of the 16bit consoles, my TG-16 came first followed very closely by SNES then Genesis (I must note that Gunstar Heroes was, and still is my favorite game of that generation). 

[jordan_hillman]

I've only been seriously collecting for the TG for a few years now, but it is definitely now my favorite system from the 8-bit/16-bit era. No disrespect to Nintendo whatsoever, but I'll take the Bonk trilogy, Neutopia, Blazing Lazers, Dungeon Explorer, and Ninja Spirit over Mario, Zelda, Life Force, Gauntlet, and Ninja Gaiden any day of the week.

[Tatsujin]

, Life Force,

and obey has even the far superior Salamander ;)

[MrWunderful]

The newness factor always helps when you first get into collecting for a different system. I find that I have temporary tunnel vision when it comes to retro gaming... when I first get into a new system, I'll collect for it almost exclusively for a month or two. After that, I'll get back into a regular groove of jumping from system to system.

There are certain ones I go back to more than others, though. I really have a soft spot for the early-to-mid 90s CD-based consoles for some reason... it's interesting to see how developers were trying to figure out what to do with this new format. Plus, I really love the semi-sort-of animated cutscenes that were so popular at the time. For that reason, I don't think I'll ever get tired of the Duo (or its slightly "special" cousin, the Sega CD).

I feel very similar.

What really drew me in additionally is the feel of the controller.  Man I just really like the way it feels, better than any other retro console I own (30 + consoles and I own every major console from NES on).

The games feel fresh and new to me,because I never played them as a child and I really enjoy some of the silliness that some of the Japanese games show.  I have never been into imports until this system.

[gamerslife]

After getting the tg and a few games I too became a fanboy. It's a great system with very few terrible games, and is now by far my fav system with the neo geo aes at number 2. So basically it's the mor uncommon early 90s systems that keep my attention best

[NecroPhile]

OBEY or GTFO!

Other systems have good games too, but Turbob has the mix of games that interest me most.

[YANDMAN]

I am turbo..........Now repeat after me

Everything about the Turbo Grafx-16 is awesome from the system, The design the colour scheme, The bold logo's the advertising ahhhhhhhh awesome

[esteban]

So I'm pretty new to the whole turbo grafx pce thing, and i was a heavy collector of nintendo products but once i got a turbo i can't seem to play anything else at all. is it just because its new to me ? or do you all feel it is far superior than most systems in fun.

I have had TURBO since it was released and I have always gone back to it for the games.

My soft spot (favorite eras/platforms) in gaming is as follows:

NES/FAMICOM/OBEY/ARCADE (80's/early 90's)
SMS/GENESIS/SNES

Clearly, I grew up in the 80's and my tastes have been influenced by my fondest memories.

I realize now that some games that I harshly criticized in the past (Vigilante) are actually entertaining, once I stop being bitter about paying $$$$ for it and accept the game for what it is.

[Tatsujin]

when did you harshly criticize Vigilante? and most importantly..










WHY?

[PunkCryborg]

I'm just a little obsessed...... ok..... REALLY obsessed

[Ninja16608]

Like it has been said, the newness has some to do with it but as you get deeper into the rabbit hole you too will see it was far superior for it's time, and being the first cd based system on the market adds that much more coolness to it. I had one since launch and I have never looked back and had a bad memory. I also collect other consoles too but find I play my Obey the most.

Welcome to the madhouse that is the Turbografx 16, Take off your pants and jacket, and stay a while :-)

[Dicer]

From the moment, I saw a TG16 playing Blazing Lazers in a Child world, I knew I needed one...


Favorite system of the 8/16 bit era and def probably my fave of all time, just so different and fun.

[esteban]

when did you harshly criticize Vigilante? and most importantly..

WHY?

I didn't even want to go back and play Vigilante after 10 years of not playing it until Keranu said I was being too harsh. He held up Vigilante as a great game, and I nearly punched him (I cursed softly under my breath instead).

However, this was the moment when I began to reevaluate some of my views on certain games...I realized that even if I thought Vigilante was B- or C-grade material as a kid in 1989...it didn't mean that I couldn't give it a second chance.

AUTO-FIRE RUINS SOME GAMES: It was at this time that I began to post about the "correct" way to play Vigilante in order to fully appreciate it. I realized that there were subtle, unique aspects of the game that were very endearing. These nuances are very minor (for example, the ability to vary the swinging rhythm of nunchaku based on your rhythm pressing the button...I love this little detail...Monster Lair has a similar implementation with certain weapons...anyway, Vigilante & Monster Lair should never be played with auto-fire...)

I knew these things back in 1989, but it became the basis of my new-found appreciation for Vigilante/Monster Lair "today". Of course, I never harshly criticized Monster Lair because it has been one of my all-time favorite games...

FOR THE RECORD: I still think Vigilante was a weak title for 1989 console wars (the historical context hasn't changed), but I actually love the game now (I appreciate it for what it is, instead of griping about how it was lame against other NES/GENESIS/etc. titles of the same era).

Sorry for rambling.

[MrFlutterPie]

I discovered the Turbo on a whim in the winter of 08 (Late bloomer I know)  I too fall in love with it immediately.  It has such a strong arcade feeling to it.  Fast pick up and play games.  I've often referred to it as "All of the gaming and none of the Bullshit"  It feels like i can clear a level or 2 of Ninja Spirit before I can even start playing a modern game (logos, sign in etc.)

It plays more like 8 Bit games but with a 16 bit window dressing.  I like the simplicity.  I also feel like the games often have a Eastern influence which make the games feel more unique and interesting.

[Keith Courage]

For myself it's because of the different games it has. Yes there are a few that were ported out to other systems but most were not.

[Ninja16608]

I discovered the Turbo on a whim in the winter of 08 (Late bloomer I know)  I too fall in love with it immediately.  It has such a strong arcade feeling to it.  Fast pick up and play games.  I've often referred to it as "All of the gaming and none of the Bullshit"  It feels like i can clear a level or 2 of Ninja Spirit before I can even start playing a modern game (logos, sign in etc.)

It plays more like 8 Bit games but with a 16 bit window dressing.  I like the simplicity.  I also feel like the games often have a Eastern influence which make the games feel more unique and interesting.

It truly is only 8bit :-) they got away with calling it 16 due to having an independent video processor.

[warpig227]

but games like vigilante and china warrior although they aren't good, they make you wanna play them and try and beat them. regardless of how bad. thats the appeal of the system

[Tatsujin]

I discovered the Turbo on a whim in the winter of 08 (Late bloomer I know)  I too fall in love with it immediately.  It has such a strong arcade feeling to it.  Fast pick up and play games.  I've often referred to it as "All of the gaming and none of the Bullshit"  It feels like i can clear a level or 2 of Ninja Spirit before I can even start playing a modern game (logos, sign in etc.)

It plays more like 8 Bit games but with a 16 bit window dressing.  I like the simplicity.  I also feel like the games often have a Eastern influence which make the games feel more unique and interesting.

It truly is only 8bit :-) they got away with calling it 16 due to having an independent video processor.

oh please, not that discussion again.

[Tatsujin]

when did you harshly criticize Vigilante? and most importantly..

WHY?

I didn't even want to go back and play Vigilante after 10 years of not playing it until Keranu said I was being too harsh. He held up Vigilante as a great game, and I nearly punched him (I cursed softly under my breath instead).

However, this was the moment when I began to reevaluate some of my views on certain games...I realized that even if I thought Vigilante was B- or C-grade material as a kid in 1989...it didn't mean that I couldn't give it a second chance.

AUTO-FIRE RUINS SOME GAMES: It was at this time that I began to post about the "correct" way to play Vigilante in order to fully appreciate it. I realized that there were subtle, unique aspects of the game that were very endearing. These nuances are very minor (for example, the ability to vary the swinging rhythm of nunchaku based on your rhythm pressing the button...I love this little detail...Monster Lair has a similar implementation with certain weapons...anyway, Vigilante & Monster Lair should never be played with auto-fire...)

I knew these things back in 1989, but it became the basis of my new-found appreciation for Vigilante/Monster Lair "today". Of course, I never harshly criticized Monster Lair because it has been one of my all-time favorite games...

FOR THE RECORD: I still think Vigilante was a weak title for 1989 console wars (the historical context hasn't changed), but I actually love the game now (I appreciate it for what it is, instead of griping about how it was lame against other NES/GENESIS/etc. titles of the same era).

Sorry for rambling.

esty, thx for that nice explanation of the "WHY?"

I kinda can share your feels and thoughts from back then, but then on the other hand I totally can't. vigilante was one of the games that totally blew me away. even from todays point of view it isn't exactly an arcade perfect port (different graphically arrangements etc), it felt 100% arcade back them, and it still does. also being a huge fan of kung fu/spartan x helped a lot to appreciate this "sequel".
as an 80s/90s arcade game lover, exactly those kind of games always managed to drop my chin the most.

at least you appreciated monsterlair, which is one other arcade peal translated almost 1:1 onto our little obey machine, and on top of it with even much better BGMs

[Tatsujin]

I've often referred to it as "All of the gaming and none of the Bullshit" 

what a nice expression. LIKE IT

[Tatsujin]

but games like vigilante and china warrior although they aren't good, they make you wanna play them and try and beat them. regardless of how bad. thats the appeal of the system

yeah sure, aren't good?

[CrackTiger]

I discovered the Turbo on a whim in the winter of 08 (Late bloomer I know)  I too fall in love with it immediately.  It has such a strong arcade feeling to it.  Fast pick up and play games.  I've often referred to it as "All of the gaming and none of the Bullshit"  It feels like i can clear a level or 2 of Ninja Spirit before I can even start playing a modern game (logos, sign in etc.)

It plays more like 8 Bit games but with a 16 bit window dressing.  I like the simplicity.  I also feel like the games often have a Eastern influence which make the games feel more unique and interesting.

It truly is only 8bit :-) they got away with calling it 16 due to having an independent video processor.

"8-bit" and "16-bit" are the common names of two different video game generations.

Without explaining what is now common knowledge and normally covered by common sense among "retro" game players, calling the PC Engine 8-bit, let alone "truly 8-bit", is saying that the Mega Drive and Super Famicom were terrible 16-bit consoles, and even the 32-bit gen systems are a complete joke.




                    NES            =          TRULY 8-BIT          =            PCE

[HailingTheThings]

The Turbo feels like 12-14bit...PUSHED TO THE MAXXXX!!!!!1!!! AHHHHHH!!!!!
EFFFFFFF!!!!!!!

Also, this console takes the pain of loneliness away at night.. like none other and stuff....

[Phase]

I've often referred to it as "All of the gaming and none of the Bullshit"  It feels like i can clear a level or 2 of Ninja Spirit before I can even start playing a modern game (logos, sign in etc.)

Have to agree love whipping out a stack of Hucards and playing in 2 seconds.

Some other likes that make it stand out to me (besides games)
Hucards are just plain cool
Five player bomberman '93 ownz
Turbo Duo is just awesome looking
All around interesting hardware

[Tatsujin]

I discovered the Turbo on a whim in the winter of 08 (Late bloomer I know)  I too fall in love with it immediately.  It has such a strong arcade feeling to it.  Fast pick up and play games.  I've often referred to it as "All of the gaming and none of the Bullshit"  It feels like i can clear a level or 2 of Ninja Spirit before I can even start playing a modern game (logos, sign in etc.)

It plays more like 8 Bit games but with a 16 bit window dressing.  I like the simplicity.  I also feel like the games often have a Eastern influence which make the games feel more unique and interesting.

It truly is only 8bit :-) they got away with calling it 16 due to having an independent video processor.

"8-bit" and "16-bit" are the common names of two different video game generations.

Without explaining what is now common knowledge and normally covered by common sense among "retro" game players, calling the PC Engine 8-bit, let alone "truly 8-bit", is saying that the Mega Drive and Super Famicom were terrible 16-bit consoles, and even the 32-bit gen systems are a complete joke.




                    NES            =          TRULY 8-BIT          =            PCE

HAHAHA..don't even start to talk about the TRULY 8-BIT NeoGeo ports, that look almost 1:1, whilst the TRULY 16-BIT ports look like crap compared.

[esteban]

but games like vigilante and china warrior although they aren't good, they make you wanna play them and try and beat them. regardless of how bad. thats the appeal of the system

Oh, I agree 100% that Vigilante and China Warrior are addictive and "make you wanna play them and try and beat them"...but I actually feel that China Warrior is an intriguing game, warts and all. China Warrior was much more challenging than Vigilante and beating it provided much more satisfaction.

I honestly feel that China Warrior is the superior game...CW's only flaws, IMHO, are some of the boss fights. The stages in CW are completely awesome (for me, anyway) even though the opponents are mundane objects. In other words: the stages in CW were thoughtfully designed (with a ramp up in difficulty). There are challenging segments, sure, but they are totally passable with some practice.  I do not feel the same way about the bosses, plus you can be lame and spam many bosses (you can't cheat/spam the stages proper). The controls/mechanics in CW are fine, plus you actually need to use different moves at different points (sweep kick, normal punch/kick, low punch/kick, special moves BIG FIST/FISTS OF FURY)...again, all of this points to thoughtful design.

The jump kick in Vigilante always annoyed me because I couldn't consistently knock the bikers off their motorcycles on the bridge. Slower opponents—I can jump kick 'em, but I suck with the bikers. This is just one of many moments in Vigilante where I wish the controls were tighter. I don't have the same problem in China Warrior. I don't feel the stage design/enemy placement in Vigilante is nearly as thoughtful as CW, either.

God, if only CW had the aesthetic creativity of Vigilante. CW really would have benefitted from varied settings like Vigilante. This is where Vigilante shines: every stage is memorable (bridge! Junkyard, even the dam streets have cute, hand-lain bricks scattered everywhere). CW's banal, generic, constantly recycled visuals get old fast (at least each stages cycle from dawn to dusk). At the end of the day, though, CW is the superior game.

I'll stop now (I've argued in defense of CW elsewhere).

 

[Keith Courage]

but games like vigilante and china warrior although they aren't good, they make you wanna play them and try and beat them. regardless of how bad. thats the appeal of the system

No trash talking vigilante. Vigilante is awesome!

I beat it every time I play it and it's still fun.

[wildfruit]

For a true answer ask a child.
I asked my son why he likes turbo.
"the colours" damn straight

[MrFlutterPie]

I discovered the Turbo on a whim in the winter of 08 (Late bloomer I know)  I too fall in love with it immediately.  It has such a strong arcade feeling to it.  Fast pick up and play games.  I've often referred to it as "All of the gaming and none of the Bullshit"  It feels like i can clear a level or 2 of Ninja Spirit before I can even start playing a modern game (logos, sign in etc.)

It plays more like 8 Bit games but with a 16 bit window dressing.  I like the simplicity.  I also feel like the games often have a Eastern influence which make the games feel more unique and interesting.

It truly is only 8bit :-) they got away with calling it 16 due to having an independent video processor.

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I referring to the style of games and not the actual hardware ;)

[Psycho Punch]

Space Spartans - Intellivision (Mattel 1981)

True 16 bit!!!!!! Actual gameplay footage!!!!!!

[esteban]

Space Spartans - Intellivision (Mattel 1981)

True 16 bit!!!!!! Actual gameplay footage!!!!!!

Holy crap, I love the voice in that game. I never have played any games with the voice module (just a bare bones Intellivision).

The game itself seems decent, if repetitive.

[EvilEvoIX]

or do you all feel it is far superior than most systems in fun.

Yeah, basically. The hardware is better than the Genesis, the software is more varied and innovative than the SNES, and the gameplay spans the best of both 8- and 16-bit eras. I enjoy other consoles, but the TG16 is my "desert island" system.

Better than the Genesis.......  I think the Turbo does Turbo games best, the genesis does genesis games best, and so on.  A decidedly blanket statement is silly.  The turbo certainly has a mistique as what only 2 million systems sold vs 40 million plus on the US genesis so yeah rarity adds exclusivity.

[Tatsujin]

maybe 2 millions in USoA, but around 6 to 7 millions in Japan, which outranked the MD by a landslide.

also who is looking to USoA or Europe sales, when there was only underpowered sports shit and silly jump'n runs etc. made in the west?

[EvilEvoIX]

People who compare "bits" remind me of those who think a big spoiler helps a car go faster. Everyone knows that the wheels and under lighting are what make a car go fast.

p.s. how many bits was the intellivision again?

Wings on cars especially those that are not for show, donindeed help cars go faster.  Short answer being they add downforce and stability, so you can corner faster or keep traction over the wheels.  In my Evo it has a zero lift kit so after 70 there isn't any lift, the rear wing keeps the ass planted.  If I pull the ring off yeah I'll go faster in a straight line but it gets sloppy at higher speeds.  F1 the cars would just fly off the track without wings it isn't even a debate.

[EvilEvoIX]

maybe 2 millions in USoA, but around 6 to 7 millions in Japan, which outranked the MD by a landslide.

also who is looking to USoA or Europe sales, when there was only underpowered sports shit and silly jump'n runs etc. made in the west?

or do you all feel it is far superior than most systems in fun.

Yeah, basically. The hardware is better than the Genesis, the software is more varied and innovative than the SNES, and the gameplay spans the best of both 8- and 16-bit eras. I enjoy other consoles, but the TG16 is my "desert island" system.

Better than the Genesis.......  I think the Turbo does Turbo games best, the genesis does genesis games best, and so on.  A decidedly blanket statement is silly.  The turbo certainly has a mistique as what only 2 million systems sold vs 40 million plus on the US genesis so yeah rarity adds exclusivity.

Oh yeah US numbers i am talking.  I thought the PCE sold more than that in Japan.  Here is a list of sales figures compiled so far, including sources:
Genesis (North America) - 20 million
Mega Drive (Japan) - 4.3 million
Mega Drive (Europe) - 6.9 million
Mega Drive (Brazil) - 2 million+
Genesis 3 (North America) - 2 million
Nomad (North America) - 1 million
Mega Drive (Other Regions) - 3.5 million
This brings the total sold worldwide to around 39.7 million. The most widely-quoted figure of 29 million total units sold must therefore be inaccurate, as this new figure has been compiled from various sources rather than just one.  The genesis is and was common as dirt do games for the system are cheap as hell as well as cheap systems.  Turbo was always harder for me to get although I did get a turbo express about 20 years ago.  It came with Vigilante.  I loved that game FYI, and the turbo as well.  I'm bliwing through turbo cd games at the moment, it's all new to me.  Sega stuff is old hat and that was the system I had including sega cd, hell I had a jaguar and jag cd before any turbo stuff.  I wish it was more available.  Besides my Neo Geo AES, the turbo is my go too shooter system, god bless Steam Hearts and Anime boobies.

[HailingTheThings]

god bless Steam Hearts and Anime boobies.

I don't know about all that, but I'll sure as Hell bless it for ya.

[pceslayer]

The Atari 2600 is an 8-bit console also... :/

I have been obsessed with Turbo since I first played one in the early 90's.

<3's me some turbobs!

[NecroPhile]

Better than the Genesis.......  I think the Turbo does Turbo games best, the genesis does genesis games best, and so on.  A decidedly blanket statement is silly.

Same old dipshit. 

[EvilEvoIX]

Better than the Genesis.......  I think the Turbo does Turbo games best, the genesis does genesis games best, and so on.  A decidedly blanket statement is silly.

Same old dipshit. 

Anyone who argues pure superiority within the 8-bit or 16bit era is the dipshit   There are no blanket statements here, just preferences that said I know what site this is and I'll move on.

People who compare "bits" remind me of those who think a big spoiler helps a car go faster. Everyone knows that the wheels and under lighting are what make a car go fast.

p.s. how many bits was the intellivision again?

Wings on cars especially those that are not for show, donindeed help cars go faster.  Short answer being they add downforce and stability, so you can corner faster or keep traction over the wheels.  In my Evo it has a zero lift kit so after 70 there isn't any lift, the rear wing keeps the ass planted.  If I pull the ring off yeah I'll go faster in a straight line but it gets sloppy at higher speeds.  F1 the cars would just fly off the track without wings it isn't even a debate.

So you're telling me that this local celebrity's pimped out '87 Cavalier can achieve a top speed faster than 87 MPH thanks to its spoiler ?

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Based on your argument, that is exactly what you're saying.  Its no wonder the 16-bit moniker gives you such a boner.  And you called spoilers "wings", and speak of handling in response to a statement purely about velocity.  Obviously you're a fan of blast processing.  I've never chimed in much on your laughable understanding of all matters technical, but I've always laughed behind my screen at your expense.  Now I'm doing it with my keyboard.

* nulltard points and laughs...

The picture of that Turd mobile is just to make people laugh I hope, that guy cannot be serious.  That said wings on cars ABSOLUTELY make them faster or at least not have to slow down as much.  I know you generalized above without a shred of understanding so let me break it down for you so that yes even you can understand.  Obviously you are angry but if you think a proper wing on a sports car is just for show you are incredibly ignorant.  Granted that POS above does almost nothing as it is a Pep Boys special but it does actually put down-force on the rear so better traction in a left/right/left maneuver as well as absolute grip and so on.  That car is such a POS however the suspension will probably yaw and roll tremendously to negate those gains, moving on.   It isn't a performance car in the least and adding that wing yes as stated before will do almost nothing.   That Camaro is simply a show piece, to who I will never know.

For automotive aerodynamics please look up terms like Down-force, traction, lateral acceleration drag CE, Contact patch, and so on.  With a wing a Formula 1 car can pull close to 4 G's in a corner, not possible without a wing, so guess what that car went faster around a track with a wing, sorry thems' called physics yah heard?  More traction means faster acceleration as well, ever see a Drag car with a Giant wing on the back, for show?  Are we making things up to sound smart?  In fact them fancy F1 cars could drive upside-down against gravity at enough speed, and being able to stick to a track at near 200MPH while pulling close to 4 G's in a corner is purely an aerodynamic affair and no amount of rubber could accomplish that, but you knew that already as you laugh nervously behind your keyboard.

Street cars?  Wings do indeed help to a lesser degree, that Active Areo on a McLaren MP4-12c really helps but your understanding of of Automotive engineering and Aero Dynamics obviously stops with those pictures above and your Blast Processing remark leads me to believe that you are indeed biased and won't listen to reason so here is a nice video to enjoy.  Porsche relies heavily on a automated rear wing for down-force, handling, and cooling and have done so for decades, I'm willing to bet they know a little more than you but thanks for playing.  Just stick to your turbo playing, laugh all you want in your ignorance but if you can admit to yourself you are wrong believe me you'll feel better

[CrackTiger]

Better than the Genesis.......  I think the Turbo does Turbo games best, the genesis does genesis games best, and so on.  A decidedly blanket statement is silly.

Same old dipshit. 

Anyone who argues pure superiority within the 8-bit or 16bit era is the dipshit   There are no blanket statements here, just preferences that said I know what site this is and I'll move on.

I agree with this statement. But Necromancer's comment was influenced by your long history across forums, of making relentless blanket statements arguing declaring pure superiority within the 8-bit or 16-bit era.

[EvilEvoIX]

Better than the Genesis.......  I think the Turbo does Turbo games best, the genesis does genesis games best, and so on.  A decidedly blanket statement is silly.

Same old dipshit. 

Anyone who argues pure superiority within the 8-bit or 16bit era is the dipshit   There are no blanket statements here, just preferences that said I know what site this is and I'll move on.

I agree with this statement. But Necromancer's comment was influenced by your long history across forums, of making relentless blanket statements arguing declaring pure superiority within the 8-bit or 16-bit era.

If you wana tear open old wounds we can.  I spoke to my preference of the MD and made that clear based on how easy it was to get and how I grew up with it.  The turbo was a far more rare bird and more expensive especially these days but I was lucky to get a Turbo Express on crack prices back in the early 90's with commons like Bonk, Vigilante, Chase HQ, sports stuff.  That said I play my Duo a lot these days and really enjoy it.  Between the PCE, SNES, and MD it is my favorite era of gaming and I'll never give it up and I see them as contemporaries.  If I argued MD superiority I simply nit picked on the slightly larger sprite limit and how much i prefered the M68000 and how I thought that later games (EwJ2) would not look as good on a PCE.  Super Metroid would not look as good on the PCE and so on.  I was then pointed out that each system does games in it's own way exclusive to it's architecture, so maybe EWJ2 won't be as good on the PCE but then Blazing Lasers or Sapphire won't be as good on the MD or would in fact melt a SNES.

Each system for each style, artistically and then you have to factor in if some programmer was a lazy ass that day and did a bad job like Altered Beast on the PCE or how Lords of Thunder is better on the PCE even though the Sega CD is a more powerful system.  So many factors, but yes I still prefer the MD, too easy to get too many great games and the NA support was top notch.

[EvilEvoIX]

Better than the Genesis.......  I think the Turbo does Turbo games best, the genesis does genesis games best, and so on.  A decidedly blanket statement is silly.

Same old dipshit. 

Anyone who argues pure superiority within the 8-bit or 16bit era is the dipshit   There are no blanket statements here, just preferences that said I know what site this is and I'll move on.

I agree with this statement. But Necromancer's comment was influenced by your long history across forums, of making relentless blanket statements arguing declaring pure superiority within the 8-bit or 16-bit era.

What he said. ^^

I like cars. Wings make cars go faster. Bits make vidya games more betterer.

The gold car is for real... local drug dealer and community icon of sorts.  He spray painted his car entirely gold... even the wheels. People on facebook around here post "sighting" pics of him all the time.  "hey look, goldie sighting at the cash-to-check", "found goldie at walmart", "goldie spotted at payday advance", "look who is at the pawn shop!", etc...

Back on topic:

I'm not angry. Your continued "missing of the point" just kind of reinforces what most everyone here already knows.  a.) spoilers give you more horsepower and torque, b.) bit count is more important than MIPS when it comes to CPU performance, and c.) troll feeding is never wise.

Whoever said spoilers give power or torque?  Changing your quote again?  Let's take a look shall we?

People who compare "bits" remind me of those who think a big spoiler helps a car go faster.

They do make cars go faster, and they allow more power to the ground and as you know power is nothing without control.  Nice back pedal and you attacked me again even though you knew you were wrong.  I'm just trying to help is all, sometimes help comes from those you least expect.  No need for a grudge anymore, those bags are heavy, put them down why are you still carrying those bags?

[Ninja16608]

Better than the Genesis.......  I think the Turbo does Turbo games best, the genesis does genesis games best, and so on.  A decidedly blanket statement is silly.

Same old dipshit. 

Anyone who argues pure superiority within the 8-bit or 16bit era is the dipshit   There are no blanket statements here, just preferences that said I know what site this is and I'll move on.

I agree with this statement. But Necromancer's comment was influenced by your long history across forums, of making relentless blanket statements arguing declaring pure superiority within the 8-bit or 16-bit era.

What he said. ^^

I like cars. Wings make cars go faster. Bits make vidya games more betterer.

The gold car is for real... local drug dealer and community icon of sorts.  He spray painted his car entirely gold... even the wheels. People on facebook around here post "sighting" pics of him all the time.  "hey look, goldie sighting at the cash-to-check", "found goldie at walmart", "goldie spotted at payday advance", "look who is at the pawn shop!", etc...

Back on topic:

I'm not angry. Your continued "missing of the point" just kind of reinforces what most everyone here already knows.  a.) spoilers give you more horsepower and torque, b.) bit count is more important than MIPS when it comes to CPU performance, and c.) troll feeding is never wise.

You keep your bits i'll take the MIPS.

[csgx1]

So adding a "wing" = car goes faster and more stable? 

Damn it!...I've been going at it all wrong for years.  Your telling me that I've been wasting time & money on coil-over suspension, sway/chassis bars, wheels/tires, etc. for stabilization when I should have just installed a big "wing" instead?   

...And to think, I've been wanting to get a supercharger to make my car faster.  Forget the expensive supercharger, I'm getting a big ass "wing" to fly fast!

[Tatsujin]

no csgx1, you should have purchased an F1 car right away.