Sale forum - Limit new users?

Trenton_net · 07/28/2014, 01:32 PM

Hey Everyone,

I noted that I've been seeing a fair bit of people who have like 1 post count, but chime into the buy and sell forum to promote eBay listings and items they have for sale.

Perhaps we could have something like a 50 to 100 post minimum before people are allowed to post in the Buy and Sell area? Because it's pretty clear that these < 10 post count people arn't going to be contributing to the community in any meaningful way. They just want a free version of eBay to make money off of.

jlued686 · 07/28/2014, 02:23 PM

Well, it's an easy thing to implement into a forum. The admin or moderator would simply create a rule within the buy/sell forums to restrict it to a certain post count.

Of course, there would have to be an active moderaHAHAHAHAHA I JUST PISSED IN MY OWN FACE.

NecroPhile · 07/28/2014, 03:34 PM

Dammit, you got a little of that pee on me too!

Since Aaron cares just enough to keep the lights on but not enough to give a hoot about anything that actually goes on here, it'd never be enforced (or even added to the rules in the first place), but it'd be nice if it was in there. At least then I'd have a rule to cite when I tell people to fuck off.

HailingTheThings · 07/28/2014, 05:09 PM

Quote from: guest on 07/28/2014, 03:34 PMDammit, you got a little of that pee on me too!

Since Aaron cares just enough to keep the lights on but not enough to give a hoot about anything that actually goes on here, it'd never be enforced (or even added to the rules in the first place), but it'd be nice if it was in there. At least then I'd have a rule to cite when I tell people to fuck off.

Why aren't you a mod yet? I mean, seriously.

Alt-Nintega · 07/28/2014, 08:14 PM

Quote from: Trenton_net on 07/28/2014, 01:32 PMThey just want a free version of eBay to make money off of.

umm, yeah, ummm no one here will pay ebay prices. This is far from free version of ebay that you are speaking of.

Prices here are at least 3X cheaper than ebay. So yeah, I don't see why would someone sell their stuff here when they can go to ebay and sell it for 3X more.

cya bud

NightWolve · 07/29/2014, 02:46 AM

Quote from: guest on 07/28/2014, 03:34 PMSince Aaron cares just enough to keep the lights on but not enough to give a hoot about anything that actually goes on here,

Should I go ahead and take initiative here to ask Aaron to mod you already ? I just friended him on Facebook a week ago or so, had him comment on one of my posts, so he is somewhat active on there. A simple message, "Hey Aaron, you could pop over to PCEFX for a minute and make Necromancer a moderator ? It would help to have another one that's a bit more involved and willing to make the tough decisions to take out the trash every now and then. He's got the vote of many and trust that he would not abuse it." I've seen the complaints now and then, but don't think I've seen anyone actually try doing that...

It's really tempting seeing as how "Tommy" the Death-Wishing Troll here popped in yet another thread to spread more of his bullshit which can't be taken seriously one way or another as it's dependent on what "forces" he's butthurt at. I'm not even necessarily suggesting a ban, maybe something like moving him to a group that restricts him from posting for 3 weeks, let him sit there or something, Dunce in the corner-style, etc. Unless he really is Nintega, though, then it's the principle of not letting a psycho, relentless extortionist win - then "just take out the trash already" should apply.

Trenton_net · 07/29/2014, 10:03 AM

Quote from: Psycho Alt-Nintega on 07/28/2014, 08:14 PM
Quote from: Trenton_net on 07/28/2014, 01:32 PMThey just want a free version of eBay to make money off of.
umm, yeah, ummm no one here will pay ebay prices. This is far from free version of ebay that you are speaking of.

Prices here are at least 3X cheaper than ebay. So yeah, I don't see why would someone sell their stuff here when they can go to ebay and sell it for 3X more.

cya bud

@Tommy Vercetti : They don't. They just post links to their eBay listings here to drum up interest and scam newbie Obey'ers who don't know better.

@Everyone:

The rule doesn't even need to be coded into the system. As long as some of the major Obey'ers are given mod powers, they'll insta-lock/ban/delete offending violators and posts before anything happens. In addition, they'll be able to spot people who are "fluffing" their account by posting random 1-liner crap all over the forums to boost their post count.

Necromancer, Tatsujin, or any other well known Obey'er would do just fine. Once you start climbing the PCE Dai tree, it's impossible not to know who some of these people are because they're on the forums all the time. Case in point, I see a lot of heavy-hitters posting here already. It's always the same bunch of guys who care the most about the people and quality of the forums.

Disclaimer: I am in no way saying post count is directly related to how hard you Obey. :-) Its just reasonable to assume that spammers/gougers won't bother to participate long enough to meet any kind of post count requirement.

NecroPhile · 07/29/2014, 10:11 AM

Quote from: NightWolve on 07/29/2014, 02:46 AMI've seen the complaints now and then, but don't think I've seen anyone actually try doing that...

Joe spoke with Aaron a while back about making me a mod and got no response.

Alt-Nintega · 07/29/2014, 06:55 PM

lol

yeah lets make them mods so they can ban anyone new on here that doesn't meet their Nazi criteria.

NightWolve · 07/29/2014, 06:57 PM

Necro, I sent a PM to him, waiting for a response, will press the issue if I don't get one in another day or two. The psycho was fully aware of the lack of modding and is taking advantage of it. Classic, the playing of the "Nazi" card even.

Psycho Punch · 07/29/2014, 11:11 PM

I like this forum and I'm not one of the "old hands", but in my opinion moving to another forum is long overdue... like DoxPhile or any other new forum where the owner can at least be more active in maintaining the forums. I'm not saying that this should turn into a moderation bonanza (I like the self-moderated spirit of this forum) but it should be easier to implement new changes at least.

johnnymad · 07/30/2014, 10:01 AM

I think a post limit would be ok. I've been on other forums where that's part of the rules and I think it worked out ok. Gets the people who are only here to buy stuff out in a hurry.

Trenton_net · 07/30/2014, 02:09 PM

In the end, I think everyone will agree... We want quality not quantity. People who contribute to the community, help introduce new blood to the Obey scene, and stay for the love of the game. Not people who are looking for a "pc-engine" craigslist to dump/buy all their goods, then take off like a thief in the wind. :-)

jlued686 · 07/30/2014, 04:43 PM

Quote from: Nulltard on 07/30/2014, 09:58 AM
Quote from: Psycho Punch on 07/29/2014, 11:11 PMI like this forum and I'm not one of the "old hands", but in my opinion moving to another forum is long overdue... like DoxPhile or any other new forum where the owner can at least be more active in maintaining the forums. I'm not saying that this should turn into a moderation bonanza (I like the self-moderated spirit of this forum) but it should be easier to implement new changes at least.
That might just be the best idea i've ever heard, and you are obviously very VERY intelligent and a natural leader. I say we should all follow Punch's advice!!!

C'mon over to derpophile! First 1,000 registrants will be mods!^*

* = not

All joking aside, I would be completely fine with this. If the majority of the active community here agreed to just "take it elsewhere", I couldn't complain. And, honestly, I think DoxPhile would be a great choice. It's a much better site in terms of cataloging the Turbo history, and it's actually maintained and cared about by the person who runs it. Frankly, in my opinion, the only reason Aaron leaves this place going is from the meager $ he gets from ads.

Plus, wouldn't putting Nulltard in charge just be hilarious?

Viva la Revolution, I say!

wildfruit · 07/30/2014, 05:29 PM

DoxPhile chat ftw!

Psycho Punch · 07/30/2014, 07:45 PM

Did they block just DoxPhile or everything Nulltard may ever produce in the web? It sucks that you were banned wrongfully.

NightWolve · 07/31/2014, 01:03 AM

Quote from: Nulltard on 07/30/2014, 05:14 PMPlus, due to Ukrainian spambots & their click-storms (or whatever you want to call them), Google banned me for life from Adsense and rejected the sole appeal they grant their users. So there'd never be any ads- you guys would have to go out and find your own Russian wives and male enhancement products.

Oh no, really null? Damn... Sorry to hear dude. I was worried about that myself. It's good then that I've made efforts to censor my profanity with dashes (e.g. f--ker) here, my personal site, etc. as I loves me my profanity! I read the terms and saw what might be used against you to deny you an account to serve ads on your site, but damn, that sucks and not really understandable as you just got the site up and running...

I disagree with the calls of an exodus that I've seen around here. Too much history and a solid establishment of PCEFX with all things NEC. The better and simpler solution is to pester Aaron into giving somebody who cares about this forum and is frequently here admin or moderator privileges. I need to get him in a conversation about this, it may be the case that he has avoided it for whatever reasons. It helps when there's more than one person actually trying to do this.

Trenton_net · 07/31/2014, 02:34 AM

Agreed. If he doesn't care about the forums, at least leave the keys to those who do. It's not like we have a shortage of good people.

HailingTheThings · 07/31/2014, 02:42 AM

Perhaps a vote should take place to appoint a few.

jlued686 · 07/31/2014, 10:01 AM

I've tried contacting him a few times about it on Twitter. I've gotten exactly zero responses. Also, when he was around for that brief period of time, updating the forums, I brought it up to him. Nothin'. There's got to be a reason why he avoids it.

I should clarify: I don't want this site to be abandoned. Hell, I've been a member here for years. In fact, I just passed my 10 year anniversary the other day. I'm just saying that at some point it might be necessary. I won't be shocked if there comes a time when the forums go down - again - and Aaron just decides to say, "Fuck it."

esteban · 07/31/2014, 11:23 AM

Quote from: NightWolve on 07/31/2014, 01:03 AMI disagree with the calls of an exodus that I've seen around here. Too much history and a solid establishment of PCEFX with all things NEC. The better and simpler solution is to pester Aaron into giving somebody who cares about this forum and is frequently here admin or moderator privileges. I need to get him in a conversation about this, it may be the case that he has avoided it for whatever reasons. It helps when there's more than one person actually trying to do this.

Agreed. The trove of old threads here alone is a gold mine.

To everyone else... Smile.

HISTORY LESSON: some of the old-timers here have migrated to a few boards already. Guess what the pattern is? Things go fine at the new board initially...then life happens. The folks who were 100% active drop off, the mods realize that they are spending more time managing SPAMBOTS (or ignoring them) than actually engaging in the community, folks get bored, get married, get laid, etc.

THE PROBLEM? Not everyone follows the migration path. With each migration, you lose a lot of folks from the original pcefx community.

"PERMANENCE" IS one of the rarest commodities in the ephemeral interwebz, and there is only ONE PLACE that has proven to be here 24/7, forever* (according to the interwebz time-space continuum, this place is ancient!)—pcefx.com

Folks have literally gone MIA for YEARS. Suddenly, one day, when they realize the need to obey, where do they go? THEY GO HOME, MUTHERFUCKERS. WE ARE THEIR FUCKING HOME, and we are not going to abandon our wayward children.

Otaking · 07/31/2014, 11:44 AM

I agree I think there should be a post count requirement before users can access the buy, sell, trade section of the forum. This restriction is common on other video game forums I've used.

Bernie · 07/31/2014, 11:55 AM

I think someone should pull my finger...

NecroPhile · 07/31/2014, 11:58 AM

Noooo way. I know that's not your finger; you've tricked me with that once before.

esteban · 07/31/2014, 04:57 PM

QuoteNoooo way. I know that's not your finger; you've tricked me with that once before.

I flagged this comment for the mods. You have been warned.

Alt-Nintega · 07/31/2014, 06:00 PM

Quote from: guest on 07/30/2014, 04:43 PMPlus, wouldn't putting Nulltard in charge just be hilarious?

Viva la Revolution, I say!

why would you want to do that? he already thinks he is the boss here since he got Ron Jeremy to approve the TG. I could have said so many other things there. Oh wow, but moving on. The ding dong and the statistics are not necessary here.

synbiosfan · 07/31/2014, 07:29 PM

A certain post count number needed to access the marketplace only encourages spamming by idiots who think we're all sitting on huge caches of goods just begging to give it away.

At one of the Saturn sites I frequent, the mods keep resetting a particular spammer's number to zero.

I think the members here do a good job of patrolling the marketplace based on the short time I've been here. Not every situation has been the same or handled the same.

I'd like to see a new mod but haven't been around long enough to give a credible recommendation. There's just a few people that need to either get over their butt hurt or log out with or without a mod's encouragement.

NightWolve · 07/31/2014, 08:59 PM

Quote from: esteban on 07/31/2014, 11:23 AMTo everyone else... Smile.

HISTORY LESSON: some of the old-timers here have migrated to a few boards already. Guess what the pattern is? Things go fine at the new board initially...then life happens. The folks who were 100% active drop off, the mods realize that they are spending more time managing SPAMBOTS (or ignoring them) than actually engaging in the community, folks get bored, get married, get laid, etc.

THE PROBLEM? Not everyone follows the migration path. With each migration, you lose a lot of folks from the original pcefx community.

"PERMANENCE" IS one of the rarest commodities in the ephemeral interwebz, and there is only ONE PLACE that has proven to be here 24/7, forever* (according to the interwebz time-space continuum, this place is ancient!)—pcefx.com

Folks have literally gone MIA for YEARS. Suddenly, one day, when they realize the need to obey, where do they go? THEY GO HOME, MUTHERFUCKERS. WE ARE THEIR FUCKING HOME, and we are not going to abandon our wayward children.

Another well said post! He's so keen, that este! Always a pleasure to read some of his posts. ;)

Quote from: Bernie on 07/31/2014, 11:55 AMI think someone should pull my finger...

And cue Bernie with the fart jokes. ;)

NightWolve · 08/10/2014, 09:16 AM

Hey guys, good news on the additional mods issue, well, somewhat... Last couple of days I sent Facebook PMs to Aaron with no response, but I just got one minutes ago! Here's a log:

Quote from: NightWolveJuly 29th

Hey Aaron, we've had this debate with the guys a few times but I don't think anyone made serious efforts to communicate with you about it.

When you have a free moment, could you pop over to PCEFX and make Necromancer a moderator ? It would help to have another one that's a bit more involved and willing to make the tough decisions to take out the trash every now and then. He's got the vote of many and trust that he would not abuse it. Was there objections as to why this was never done in the past ? Don't trust him perhaps ?

Thanks!

Quote from: NightWolveThursday

Hey Aaron, so I guess that is a 'no', huh ? Heh-heh.

The thing you should know is, there have been rumblings here and there that with a lacking additional moderator and you simply keeping the lights on, the forum isn't cared about too much or as much as it should be, and talk occasionally ensues about an exodus to places like http://pcengine.freeforums.org/ and so forth...

It's never been too serious, but it does occur. It's also been shared that others have tried to bring this matter to your attention, but it seems you continue to ignore it. Is there opposition to someone like NecroPhile, don't like him personally ?

Joe Redifer is the only active guy at present, and he does handle registrations still on occasion, but 'nat' is long gone for years now, and Keranu hardly ever posts, so Joe is the only active moderator left at present. If not Necromancer, surely there must be somebody else that you could trust that's active, no ??

Quote from: NightWolveSaturday

Another no I take it.

Quote from: Aaron NantoSunday

Sorry been out of the country with almost no access to wifi. Will visit this in the next week.

Quote from: NightWolveSunday

Oh hey Aaron, yay!
Was beginning to believe people saying that you just avoid the issue for whatever reason. Alright, no problem!

Next week then! We'll see...

NightWolve · 08/18/2014, 05:15 AM

Necromancer UNLEASHED!!!!

All in your honor, "Tommy..." Biotch...

I got a PM 5 hours ago from Aaron of the news! Was starting to get worried that he forgot about our exchange and that I'd have to pester him again. But nope, the deal is done, new moderator has been added! Sorry 'bout that "Tommy." I know you were "running for the position," but you know, win some, lose some (mostly the latter for you of course)... ;)