Metal Jesus ruins my faith in humanity

[sirhcman]

MJR I've spoken with in the Atari Age chat a few times, and he seemed OK if not aloof. He was not responsive when I suggested to him to check out a game I worked on for a "hidden gems" episode.

Maybe if you would have donated some games to his collection you would have had luck getting more of a response out of him.

[esteban]

MJR I've spoken with in the Atari Age chat a few times, and he seemed OK if not aloof. He was not responsive when I suggested to him to check out a game I worked on for a "hidden gems" episode.

Maybe if you would have donated some games to his collection you would have had luck getting more of a response out of him.

Hahaahhahahahahahahaha.

[ToyMachine78]

It would be better for us to be on his channel because he has more subscribers. Even if we got AVGN in one of our episodes it wouldn't make a difference. But if we got on an AVGN episode... well just look at what happened to stupid Pat.

Stupid Pat is a curious statement; I was under the assumption most people love that guy. He's a local to my area. I see him from time to time at garage sales/swap meets in my area. I also have been to the store Luna Games, the place that his friend who does podcasts with him works. Luna is the only retro videogame store in my direct area, I don't want to speak negatively of it (or them) but I am not a fan. I rarely find things at swap meets/thrift stores, but each time I've seen him he has bags full of items, so I thought my distaste for them was due to local bitterness hahah

MJR I've spoken with in the Atari Age chat a few times, and he seemed OK if not aloof. He was not responsive when I suggested to him to check out a game I worked on for a "hidden gems" episode. I didn't have distaste for him until he got the Earthbound for free, and then this fundraiser. I have no issue with a guy receiving a gift from a friend or admirer, but I don't think it does anyone a favor bragging about the conquest of free acquisition of difficult and sought after items, but to each his own and there is obviously a audience for that. I think that was his mindset "well, someone gave me a [overly valued game, say $300,] maybe I can get them to give me money directly to do this, what should the theme be..."

However, I just have a lot of issues with people asking for funding without showing a certain amount of initiative to begin with. I'll back a project where they have a prototype but need funding for full development or manufacturing in bulk, but to just fund someones "idea" is such a difficult to support proposition. I guess I am just too much of a tightwad.

I wish him the best, and actually hope this gets funded and he and his "fans" enjoy themselves, but it's not something I can get behind, support, or be involved with.

If not aloof? He is definitely aloof!!

[Psycho Punch]

Pat's not so bad but he's too much of a dork (even when not in character) and it feels too forced when he attempts to do comedy on his videos. I'd rather watch anything else.

[HailingTheThings]

He pretty much just says "Hey, I decided to grow facial hair. How does it look?"

"A beard is never a substitute for a jawline, no matter how you trim it"

-Henchman #24

"Man, I can't believe that's what you look like under your costume. Hilarious! You're like Seinfeld with a unibrow. Who knew?"

[Joe Redifer]

I get offers ALL THE TIME to cover indie stuff. Generally I'm not interested unless it's for retro consoles, but it's usually for PC. But anyway those offers come in so often that's it's easy to just zone out when they do.

You know what show has a similar structure and execution to Pat the NES Punk episodes? Irate Gamer. Seriously. The only thing is that Irate Gamer uses more green screen effects. Both of their shows remind me of the other for some reason.

[ToyMachine78]

Pat's not so bad but he's too much of a dork (even when not in character) and it feels too forced when he attempts to do comedy on his videos. I'd rather watch anything else.

Spot on. I agree. I also hate how he splits his podcast into topics/questions now. Its solely so its easier for him to keep daily content and generate views. It's

[Joe Redifer]

The problem with pumping out so much stuff is that videos tend to drown in everything else. So if a Pat episode comes out you may never see it hidden amongst all of the podcast episodes and whatnot. Sometimes too much is just too much. The amount of views he has on each of his videos stays relatively low as a result. Ideally he should release maybe 3 times a week, max. Game Sack would kick all sorts of ass if we released once a week instead of once every two weeks, but Dave has decided that he needs to be employed and actually make money and survive and stuff.

[bozo55]

Game Sack would kick all sorts of ass if we released once a week instead of once every two weeks, but Dave has decided that he needs to be employed and actually make money and survive and stuff.

You could always call back Micronet and take them up on their offer 

[ToyMachine78]

It would be better for us to be on his channel because he has more subscribers. Even if we got AVGN in one of our episodes it wouldn't make a difference. But if we got on an AVGN episode... well just look at what happened to stupid Pat.

Stupid Pat is a curious statement; I was under the assumption most people love that guy. He's a local to my area. I see him from time to time at garage sales/swap meets in my area. I also have been to the store Luna Games, the place that his friend who does podcasts with him works. Luna is the only retro videogame store in my direct area, I don't want to speak negatively of it (or them) but I am not a fan. I rarely find things at swap meets/thrift stores, but each time I've seen him he has bags full of items, so I thought my distaste for them was due to local bitterness hahah

MJR I've spoken with in the Atari Age chat a few times, and he seemed OK if not aloof. He was not responsive when I suggested to him to check out a game I worked on for a "hidden gems" episode. I didn't have distaste for him until he got the Earthbound for free, and then this fundraiser. I have no issue with a guy receiving a gift from a friend or admirer, but I don't think it does anyone a favor bragging about the conquest of free acquisition of difficult and sought after items, but to each his own and there is obviously a audience for that. I think that was his mindset "well, someone gave me a [overly valued game, say $300,] maybe I can get them to give me money directly to do this, what should the theme be..."

However, I just have a lot of issues with people asking for funding without showing a certain amount of initiative to begin with. I'll back a project where they have a prototype but need funding for full development or manufacturing in bulk, but to just fund someones "idea" is such a difficult to support proposition. I guess I am just too much of a tightwad.

I wish him the best, and actually hope this gets funded and he and his "fans" enjoy themselves, but it's not something I can get behind, support, or be involved with.

The only part of his channel I enjoy is Drunken Master Paul. That guy can be pretty funny.  He just seems like he would be a fun guy to hang out with. I would actually like to see him spin off his Gamer Eats show into its own channel. I think it would do well.

[GoldenWheels]

The problem with pumping out so much stuff is that videos tend to drown in everything else. So if a Pat episode comes out you may never see it hidden amongst all of the podcast episodes and whatnot. Sometimes too much is just too much. The amount of views he has on each of his videos stays relatively low as a result. Ideally he should release maybe 3 times a week, max. Game Sack would kick all sorts of ass if we released once a week instead of once every two weeks, but Dave has decided that he needs to be employed and actually make money and survive and stuff.

That guy has a lot of nerve.

I tend to enjoy that the Gamesack videos feel like "shows" by length--they're well edited and all that, so they should feel like a real "show", but some 7 minute vids are well edited and all that too, they still just feel like youtube videos. Pat and CGR and that kind of stuff I like, but I watch them on my phone while dropping a deuce or eating a bowl of cereal (never both) or working on a woodworking project,  and feel like I miss nothing out of the experience.

Gamesack I sit down, I turn on the  projector and the PS3 and I watch it, doing nothing else. Id much rather have a good, "real" (to me) episode every two weeks than a rapid fire assault of random 7 minute vids.

[esteban]

The problem with pumping out so much stuff is that videos tend to drown in everything else. So if a Pat episode comes out you may never see it hidden amongst all of the podcast episodes and whatnot. Sometimes too much is just too much. The amount of views he has on each of his videos stays relatively low as a result. Ideally he should release maybe 3 times a week, max. Game Sack would kick all sorts of ass if we released once a week instead of once every two weeks, but Dave has decided that he needs to be employed and actually make money and survive and stuff.

That guy has a lot of nerve.

I tend to enjoy that the Gamesack videos feel like "shows" by length--they're well edited and all that, so they should feel like a real "show", but some 7 minute vids are well edited and all that too, they still just feel like youtube videos. Pat and CGR and that kind of stuff I like, but I watch them on my phone while dropping a deuce or eating a bowl of cereal (never both) or working on a woodworking project,  and feel like I miss nothing out of the experience.

Gamesack I sit down, I turn on the  projector and the PS3 and I watch it, doing nothing else. Id much rather have a good, "real" (to me) episode every two weeks than a rapid fire assault of random 7 minute vids.

I agree. I like that we have both short-format and "longer-format" options available.

I wish there were more examples of compelling content that ran longer than 15-20 minutes...but at least we have some.

[Gredler]

I get offers ALL THE TIME to cover indie stuff. Generally I'm not interested unless it's for retro consoles, but it's usually for PC. But anyway those offers come in so often that's it's easy to just zone out when they do.

You know what show has a similar structure and execution to Pat the NES Punk episodes? Irate Gamer. Seriously. The only thing is that Irate Gamer uses more green screen effects. Both of their shows remind me of the other for some reason.

I didn't intend to speak poorly of these guys. They're all very nice from my interactions and their content has an audience, and I'm happy for both parties win-win.  By aloof, I mean he was not very responsive to the conversation, albeit in a chatroom, and I am often the same in those lol.

MJR often does old generation "hidden gems" videos, and I suggested he cover a quickly but lovingly made PS2 disc release by a group of individuals that went on to immediately play important roles on games like God of War III, the Last of Us, Elder Scrolls Online, as well as other things. I thought it was a good candidate for a "hidden gem" because it was a console retail release that few would consider playing, but if you did it would be fun because it was made by a passionate group of talented people, I wish I were one of the talented ones but I was certainly passionate while working on it I could understand not covering indie games,but this was a retail release found in tons of bargain bins for cheap, so I thought it was worth being considered a "hidden gem". Not a diamond, maybe like a crystal or a amethyst.. hahah I just thought it'd be cool to show the guys that are working on these new AAA games peoples appreciation for the game, if there was any lol!

[bozo55]

Speaking of Pat and short videos, I was wondering what Joe thinks of Retroware's format for The Video Game Years (especially since he participates in it).

I really think the show would be much better if each year was split into 2 or 3 parts instead of 4 or 5.  With each 10 minute episode, you only get roughly 8 minutes of content, and even then it's hard to call Eric's section "It should of been a video game in [insert year here]" meaningful content.  I love the show to death but they're really milking for clicks.

[Gentlegamer]

Yeah, each segment of The Video Game Years should be 25-30 min.

Meanwhile, Pat publishes even shorter sub-clips of each part on his channel to fish for views.

As for "Pat the NES Punk," it's ironic, Angry Video Game Nerd is more punk, and Pat is more of an aspie nerd.

[CGQuarterly]

Meanwhile, Pat publishes even shorter sub-clips of each part on his channel to fish for views.

It's funny that you mention that.  The other day one of my friends was being really pushy with me, saying that I need to chop up the episodes of my show to make shorter "breakout" videos for people just looking for one specific game (in addition to keeping the long-form videos the way that they are), because that would get me "more views".  Then, to back up his position, he did a search on YouTube for one of the games featured in my last episode, and showed me the results.  "Look how many videos there are for this game, man!"  Yeah, exactly.  No need for another one.  But somehow he doesn't see it that way.  I guess the number of videos that pop up when you search for "ESPN eXtreme Games" must mean that there is a lot of demand for them.  I tried to make him understand that I was trying to establish a cohesive "voice" or "theme" for my channel, and that I didn't even really want to do product reviews anymore because I am trying to cultivate an audience that is sold on my core format, but he just doesn't get it.

[bozo55]

Meanwhile, Pat publishes even shorter sub-clips of each part on his channel to fish for views.

It's funny that you mention that.  The other day one of my friends was being really pushy with me, saying that I need to chop up the episodes of my show to make shorter "breakout" videos for people just looking for one specific game (in addition to keeping the long-form videos the way that they are), because that would get me "more views".  Then, to back up his position, he did a search on YouTube for one of the games featured in my last episode, and showed me the results.  "Look how many videos there are for this game, man!"  Yeah, exactly.  No need for another one.  But somehow he doesn't see it that way.  I guess the number of videos that pop up when you search for "ESPN eXtreme Games" must mean that there is a lot of demand for them.  I tried to make him understand that I was trying to establish a cohesive "voice" or "theme" for my channel, and that I didn't even really want to do product reviews anymore because I am trying to cultivate an audience that is sold on my core format, but he just doesn't get it.

If YouTube's subscription service becomes a reality, then I think we will see a shift in the content that people like Retroware and Pat create.  The new system allows creators to put their content behind a paywall, thus eliminating the need for ad revenue and mulitple small videos. 

It will force content creators to make better content (i.e. longer videos with more content) if they wish to charge.  I'd hate to see Game Sack put their content behind a pay wall, but given the quality of the content and the small viewer base, it is likely a foregone conclusion.

[esteban]

Meanwhile, Pat publishes even shorter sub-clips of each part on his channel to fish for views.

It's funny that you mention that.  The other day one of my friends was being really pushy with me, saying that I need to chop up the episodes of my show to make shorter "breakout" videos for people just looking for one specific game (in addition to keeping the long-form videos the way that they are), because that would get me "more views".  Then, to back up his position, he did a search on YouTube for one of the games featured in my last episode, and showed me the results.  "Look how many videos there are for this game, man!"  Yeah, exactly.  No need for another one.  But somehow he doesn't see it that way.  I guess the number of videos that pop up when you search for "ESPN eXtreme Games" must mean that there is a lot of demand for them.  I tried to make him understand that I was trying to establish a cohesive "voice" or "theme" for my channel, and that I didn't even really want to do product reviews anymore because I am trying to cultivate an audience that is sold on my core format, but he just doesn't get it.

Yup. Do what you do, don't worry. This is for fun.

[Medic_wheat]

Meanwhile, Pat publishes even shorter sub-clips of each part on his channel to fish for views.

It's funny that you mention that.  The other day one of my friends was being really pushy with me, saying that I need to chop up the episodes of my show to make shorter "breakout" videos for people just looking for one specific game (in addition to keeping the long-form videos the way that they are), because that would get me "more views".  Then, to back up his position, he did a search on YouTube for one of the games featured in my last episode, and showed me the results.  "Look how many videos there are for this game, man!"  Yeah, exactly.  No need for another one.  But somehow he doesn't see it that way.  I guess the number of videos that pop up when you search for "ESPN eXtreme Games" must mean that there is a lot of demand for them.  I tried to make him understand that I was trying to establish a cohesive "voice" or "theme" for my channel, and that I didn't even really want to do product reviews anymore because I am trying to cultivate an audience that is sold on my core format, but he just doesn't get it.

Yeah it is kind of why's Pat the NES punk does. He makes long formate videos post them then chose the same videos into segments or topics. Post them. Then video records his pod cast like Howard stern stream an audio version on top of a chopped up video version as well.


So it LOOKS like a ton of continent but it is rehashed rehashed recyed stuff to build views. Because in the end it is a business for him not a side project for fun.

[CGQuarterly]

Meanwhile, Pat publishes even shorter sub-clips of each part on his channel to fish for views.

It's funny that you mention that.  The other day one of my friends was being really pushy with me, saying that I need to chop up the episodes of my show to make shorter "breakout" videos for people just looking for one specific game (in addition to keeping the long-form videos the way that they are), because that would get me "more views".  Then, to back up his position, he did a search on YouTube for one of the games featured in my last episode, and showed me the results.  "Look how many videos there are for this game, man!"  Yeah, exactly.  No need for another one.  But somehow he doesn't see it that way.  I guess the number of videos that pop up when you search for "ESPN eXtreme Games" must mean that there is a lot of demand for them.  I tried to make him understand that I was trying to establish a cohesive "voice" or "theme" for my channel, and that I didn't even really want to do product reviews anymore because I am trying to cultivate an audience that is sold on my core format, but he just doesn't get it.

Yup. Do what you do, don't worry. This is for fun.

Oh, totally.  I just think it's funny because this guy always has strong opinions about stuff like that even though he has no actual experience.  *HE* prefers short videos because he has a short attention span, so obviously my channel would be better off doing "quick hits" instead of the longer-form content that I have been moving towards.  It's understandable, though because his opinion is based on his personal preferences.  Frankly, I make the kind of videos that I personally like to watch, and I conduct my channel in the manner that I like to see channels that I subscribe to conduct themselves.

I had a lot more typed out, but at this point I'm just ranting.

[esteban]

^ yes, I hear you.

[Joe Redifer]

I agree, keep doing what you do. Look at the channel Classic Game Room. They often release many videos a day. They will get lost in your users subscription feeds. So a video you may be interested may never appear on the screen while other CGR videos do. Look at the view count for each video, it's pretty low compared to how many subs they have. Also other people's videos will get lost in that same feed. For example if you're subscribed to Classic Game Room and a Game Sack video comes out, good luck seeing it because it will be buried in CGR videos (most of them which you won't watch).

Sometimes I get the occasional comment of "Your videos are too long!". To that I usually reply "Youtube will remember where you left off when you come back" or if I'm in a particular mood I will ask "How are you able to watch TV shows and movies?"

[CGQuarterly]

Sometimes I get the occasional comment of "Your videos are too long!". To that I usually reply "Youtube will remember where you left off when you come back" or if I'm in a particular mood I will ask "How are you able to watch TV shows and movies?"

My attitude towards that is that those people simply aren't your core audience.  Guys like me look forward to a new episode of Game Sack because we get to settle in and just watch a sweet video for 25-30 minutes.  I mean shit, it's not like Game Sack episodes are 30 minutes about the same game.  Its a few minutes of intro, and then like 2 minutes dedicated to each game.  If you aren't interested in the game that's being discussed, a new one is coming right up.  There's even an intermission in the middle to help break it up!  I just don't get some people, I guess. 

Going back to my friend, about my Streets of Rage episode he said "that video would have been perfect if it had ended at 5 minutes." But the thing is, that video actually has some of the best viewer retention numbers of anything I've made.  So I'm just gonna go ahead with what I'm doing.

And I agree about CGR.  I really like Mark, and I've been watching him since he came back in 2007 or 2008, but I feel like he could be producing better shows and uploading less frequently and be doing at least as well as he is now.  I too have noticed his view numbers and they're surprisingly low, all things considered.  I really think that the trend on YouTube is moving more towards the longer-form, in-depth videos, based on the recent success of both your show and The Videogame Historian, both of which are up over 100,000 subs now.  I think that YouTube has just been saturated with quick-hit, single-game videos and the only ones that are still really successful are the ones that are a lot more about the personality of the host than they are about the content being discussed.

[Joe Redifer]

Oh, about the Video Game Years question. I actually answered that but quickly deleted the post because I felt that it might be too much for public knowledge. Bottom line: Pat's dumb. But I do think the show works better at 20+ minutes. I wanted to have more installments per year in order to cover more games but they said no. But then they started having more installments anyway, just shorter segments. I've edited all the way up to the end of 1989 and I'm not certain if I will return as an editor and/or on-camera blabbermouth

[sirhcman]

Oh, about the Video Game Years question. I actually answered that but quickly deleted the post because I felt that it might be too much for public knowledge. Bottom line: Pat's dumb. But I do think the show works better at 20+ minutes. I wanted to have more installments per year in order to cover more games but they said no. But then they started having more installments anyway, just shorter segments. I've edited all the way up to the end of 1989 and I'm not certain if I will return as an editor and/or on-camera blabbermouth

It is a shame some aren't open to others ideas and opinions especially when you have shown that you know a little about retro games/gaming. I hope you and Dave stay on at least for informative purposes as I think you both help add to the shows credibility.

Do you know when retroware intends for the video game years project to end? I remember at one time they had a funding project which would take them to XXXX year but I can't remember where that ended up..

[Gentlegamer]

There was some juicy Pat dish up there.

[sirhcman]

There was some juicy Pat dish up there.

Yea I know, I read it too. None of it was much of a surprise though

[bozo55]

Oh, about the Video Game Years question. I actually answered that but quickly deleted the post because I felt that it might be too much for public knowledge. Bottom line: Pat's dumb. But I do think the show works better at 20+ minutes. I wanted to have more installments per year in order to cover more games but they said no. But then they started having more installments anyway, just shorter segments. I've edited all the way up to the end of 1989 and I'm not certain if I will return as an editor and/or on-camera blabbermouth

Thanks for fielding that.  I couldn't see any of the viewers being bothered by longer episodes with more content.  I suppose that no matter what RW does they're only going to attract a certain number of hits, so why spend more time/money.

[Medic_wheat]

Oh, about the Video Game Years question. I actually answered that but quickly deleted the post because I felt that it might be too much for public knowledge. Bottom line: Pat's dumb. But I do think the show works better at 20+ minutes. I wanted to have more installments per year in order to cover more games but they said no. But then they started having more installments anyway, just shorter segments. I've edited all the way up to the end of 1989 and I'm not certain if I will return as an editor and/or on-camera blabbermouth

I honestly like that you and Dave are on those segments.


Some of the people on it. Eh.

For the longest time when Eian was on it I kept thinking "who is this guy with the pink horse shirt" and "why is he with Pat?"  Gay lover? Dorky kid brother?  Then I started seeing those mini segments that Oat would do with him and realized he is some retro game store worker (possibly manager?) and get a little tired of hearing him and Lat promo Lunar Games. What do they get a dollar every time they say it?  But they started to tone that down.

local Dan I thought was another odd choice as I know him as a toy reviewer (which I like) but apart from the "pixels to plastic" he didn't seem to tie into the rest of the group. Seems more like a "who you know" situation.

Then there is that one guy from RW who sounds like he is in the middle of puberty for the past two years (seems like a generally nice guy but alway a peripheral person hovering in OTHER people's videos at cons and such). He comes off a little boring but I think that is due to his voice. Just doesn't sound pleasing to hear in a documentary sort of way.

I like Roo but man. He hasn't done a new 16-bit gems videos in like two years. All he seems to do is those pod cast videos that. I honestly can't get into. Now throwing up unedited hour long life feed videos just doesn't make for interesting or engaging videos for me.

The Game Chasers. Have always like them from the start good idea for a retro game show. But man they come off so ehhhhh low class?  Lack of class?  It has started to urk me. Can't we edit out all their burps and use of local slang that just makes you come off as middle age guys with graying hair and rough personalitys they never grew up past the high school years?  Plus wow. How long did it take them to correct that Intel sound bit from "Texas is a big country" to "Texas is a big state"?  Like the first year and a half it seemed. But apart from those arm chair grips from a guy who doesn't create anything but poorly written Internet forum post that is my two cents on most of the RW crew who appear on these shows.



I am just waiting for the other croonies to start bringing in these like PBGamer, Metal Jesus, Irate Gamer, Mike (hell they started getting James might as well get Mike then we can have someone spout dick and ass jokes every two seconds), 8-bit Eric, alpha omega, taser fist and etc.

[esteban]

There is a reason I don't watch much video game stuff...I am far too finicky about video games.

[CGQuarterly]

There is a reason I don't watch much video game stuff...I am far too finicky about video games.

Well, shit.  That makes me feel lucky that you put up with my vids.  Thanks!

[sirhcman]

Well, shit.  That makes me feel lucky that you put up with my vids.  Thanks!

I didn't even realize you had a channel until a few weeks ago. Your PS1 video is excellent and you have a great voice.. I just subscribed!

[mackdanger]

There is a reason I don't watch much video game stuff...I am far too finicky about video games.

I don't watch too much video game stuff because I am around the same age as most of those guys, and there is very little they can tell me that I don't already know. Game Sack's regional differences episode is an exception. The Genesis Batman shadows had me all like 

I would like to ask some YouTube questions if anyone can help me out. I am only subscribed to maybe 15 channels. However, a lot of times new videos won't make it into my feed. Also, I will look at someone I am subbed to, and it will say 10 new videos, but none of them are new. Is YT just slow, broken, or is it something I am doing? I don't always log in when I watch stuff, but even when I do, logging in later will lead to the same results. It constantly says that old videos are new. Any ideas?

[Joe Redifer]

Sometimes videos don't show up in the subscription feed. I've had that happen maybe twice to me. I'm only subscribed to maybe 10 or 15 channels as well.

Ian is a manager at one of the Luna Games stores in San Diego. People generally find him more interesting than Pat and I think that's why his podcast has any degree of success.

Lance is the guy who sounds weird. From what I have heard, one of his vocal chords is paralyzed or some such thing. I don't remember if this has always been the case or some accident happened to cause this.

Roo is currently ONLY known for the Video Game Years as he hasn't done much with his channel. I think he works at a university but I'm only guessing.

Metal Jesus has done some Video Game Years segments I think in the looooong past. I asked him about appearing a year ago and he never got back to me. Happy Console Gamer appeared at my request. We did this all behind everyone's back and I had all of his footage uploaded before I told everyone he was going to be part of 1987. But won't be appearing in any years after 1987 because he felt it just wasn't worth his time. Irate Gamer would NEVER appear because he has his own competing show or something. Also there's already too much Pat in each episode, no reason to have "other Pat" in there as well. 8-Bit Eric thinks they would never be interested in what he has to say. Alpha has considered it but would only do it if he's asked. I'm sure they'd love to have Peanut Nutter on since he's mega popular (I still have never watched him). Hell they have that Arin Egoraptor guy who rarely provides anything useful simply because he is popular. Watch the upcoming Castlevania segment. He's in there just because he's him but what he says adds nothing to anything and is just a waste of time. He almost always complains about the games he talks about. If you were to watch his raw footage, you'd realize just how high he was when it was recorded.

[esteban]

There is a reason I don't watch much video game stuff...I am far too finicky about video games.

Well, shit.  That makes me feel lucky that you put up with my vids.  Thanks!

I am not BS'ing...I like your videos—they are solid, reliable. Even when I am not "learning" something new, I never think it is a waste of my time, or that it is purely "entertainment" (see 99% of popular content on YouTube).

[esteban]

There is a reason I don't watch much video game stuff...I am far too finicky about video games.

I don't watch too much video game stuff because I am around the same age as most of those guys, and there is very little they can tell me that I don't already know. Game Sack's regional differences episode is an exception. The Genesis Batman shadows had me all like 

Exactly. I know certain consoles/games very well...I am always hoping to learn something knew, or see something from a new (valid) perspective, but that is rarely the case.

However, when it comes to games/platforms that I am NOT familiar with, I have so much more fun watching a video....ignorance is bliss, after all.

Subsequently, however, after directly playing the game in question, my opinion of those "enjoyable videos" often drops because I see troubling flaws (I can live with minor flaws) in the videos I watched.

Like I said. Finicky.

[Medic_wheat]

Ahhh hmm then I feel bad for what I said about Lance. I have a speech impediment that embarrasses me which is honestly one thing that really keeps me from doing videos as I do not NOT like my speaking voice.

As for 8-bit Eriic.

He totally reminds me of that guy who acts dorky so that the "cool kids" in the man group will keep you around but at the same time completely undermines and hides any talent or interesting parts of his personality in fear that the group would kick him out of guy time. Eric needs to value himself more and see himself as an equal.

As for Alpha. If they want him but he wants to be invited as not to feel like he is imposing well heck. Just go all saddy hawking and ask yourself out alpha.

Lol. "Other Pat". Sigh. Good one.

[Gentlegamer]

Since this has become the Video Game Years topic:

I wish the show had more appearances by actual people in the industry that were involved in that era. I believe Howard Philips was in a segment and that was awesome. While generally I do like anecdotal stories, when a show like that takes such a strong a historical perspective, it feels very incomplete to not have 'primary accounts' or direct sources. I guess the idea is to go for that VH1 style, but most of the time I'm left wondering "who are you and why should I care what you have to say about this topic."

[esteban]

Since this has become the Video Game Years topic:

I wish the show had more appearances by actual people in the industry that were involved in that era. I believe Howard Philips was in a segment and that was awesome. While generally I do like anecdotal stories, when a show like that takes such a strong a historical perspective, it feels very incomplete to not have 'primary accounts' or direct sources. I guess the idea is to go for that VH1 style, but most of the time I'm left wondering "who are you and why should I care what you have to say about this topic."

Exactly. I can take a few goofballs commenting, but there should be at least ONE person with credibility to speak on a topic---the narrower the topic, the  deeper the knowledge/insight, the better! (Save the obvious generalities for the goofballs, let the folks who know something share something a bit more in-depth).

I feel that it won't drastically alter the format:

Generalities...for mass appeal
Tiny bits of intriguing/in-depth stuff...to appease me.

I honestly feel that the series is aimed more at younger folks who want to learn more about the past.

Also, the segment "This should have been a game" is a total waste of time. I know it is an attempt at something creative & new, but I feel the time would be better spent experimenting with different concepts...

[Gentlegamer]

I should add that I only recently learned about Game Sack, so before that when I saw Joe on screen and in the credits I remembered him from Sega-16 and here, and knew he actually does know what he's talking about (most of the time when it isn't Nintendo). But I should have known the show is mainly about 'tubetard' e-celebs' waxing nostalgic.

[esteban]

I should add that I only recently learned about Game Sack, so before that when I saw Joe on screen and in the credits I remembered him from Sega-16 and here, and knew he actually does know what he's talking about (most of the time when it isn't Nintendo). But I should have known the show is mainly about 'tubetard' e-celebs' waxing nostalgic.

I am not even sure that they are waxing nostalgic. I think some of these folks pretend to have played a much wider range of games "back on the day" than they really did.

So, "waxing faux-nostalgic" ....



I also want to add that now I want to watch some more Metal Jesus videos. No joke.

[ToyMachine78]

I should add that I only recently learned about Game Sack, so before that when I saw Joe on screen and in the credits I remembered him from Sega-16 and here, and knew he actually does know what he's talking about (most of the time when it isn't Nintendo). But I should have known the show is mainly about 'tubetard' e-celebs' waxing nostalgic.

I think some of these folks pretend to have played a much wider range of games "back on the day" than they really did.

I've always thought this too.

[sirhcman]

I also want to add that now I want to watch some more Metal Jesus videos. No joke.

Ironically enough I was surfing youtube last night and one of his videos popped up into my suggestions feed. It was for Mario Hidden Gems and I was curious so I clicked it. Did you know Super Mario Land 2 and Super Mario Sunshine are hidden gems? WOW! WHO KNEW?!

I am not even sure that they are waxing nostalgic. I think some of these folks pretend to have played a much wider range of games "back on the day" than they really did.

I question how old most of these guys were when most of this stuff was going on in the early and mid 80's...

[CGQuarterly]

I am not even sure that they are waxing nostalgic. I think some of these folks pretend to have played a much wider range of games "back on the day" than they really did.

I question how old most of these guys were when most of this stuff was going on in the early and mid 80's...

This is definitely a thing on YouTube and on Podcasts.  You get these shows run by a member of this new generation of kids who are into old games, and they just try too hard to establish credibility.  There's a podcast called "Back in My Play" that I listened to the first few episodes of.  All other issues aside, I quit listening when they talked about the SNES, and the host went on about how he TOTALLY remembers the SNES launch because he was 5 years old and his mom took him to the mall where there was a Nintendo promotional event going on and after that he was all about the SNES and got LttP as soon as it came out and blah blah blah.  Like he was really trying way too hard to over-sell the fact that he was alive when the SNES came out, and it just sounded pathetic.

These younger guys should embrace the fact that they didn't grow up with this shit.  Use it.  Say that some game that we all love is actually shit because we all just have our nostalgia goggles on, or something. 

Actually, my current favorite podcast is Retro Game Squad.  The host is around my age (late 30's) so he was around for all of the games that he talks about, but his two co-hosts are younger guys who are playing for the first time a lot of the games that they feature.  But they don't try to hide that fact.  Instead what you get is the perspective of a guy who has nostalgic feelings about some of these games, and can talk about what it was like when they came out, put them into historical context, etc.  Then you have a couple of guys who are just talking about the game objectively, since this is their first time playing it.

Edit: And I will freely admit when I haven't played a game that I clearly should have back in the day.

[Joe Redifer]

I wish the show had more appearances by actual people in the industry that were involved in that era.

I agree 100%. We've had the aforementioned Howard Phillips in a few segments (and a few to come). We've also had Keith Robinson from Intellivision, David Crane and Howard Scott Warshaw. I'd like to eventually get Reggie Feels-a-Man, Tom Kalinske, some person from NEC I dunno. Maybe even the fucking Game Lord to represent SNK.

[Gentlegamer]

some person from NEC I dunno.

How about Jonathan "Johnny Turbo" Brandstetter from TTI

[Joe Redifer]

That would rule. He also worked for Sega after that so it would be a 2-for-1 guest.

[bozo55]

Ironically enough I was surfing youtube last night and one of his videos popped up into my suggestions feed. It was for Mario Hidden Gems and I was curious so I clicked it. Did you know Super Mario Land 2 and Super Mario Sunshine are hidden gems? WOW! WHO KNEW?!

I have vowed to myself never to watch that video, and after reading that I'm even more glad that I didn't. I suppose Metal Grey Jesus Geriatric Edition will be covering New Super Mario Bros. U and Super Mario 3D Land on Mario Hidden Gems 2 in 2030.

[Gentlegamer]

Johnny Turbo worked for FEKA?!?!

[esteban]

Johnny Turbo worked for FEKA?!?!

Sega-CD, in fact. JB = FEKA