Metal Jesus ruins my faith in humanity

HailingTheThings · 03/01/2015, 03:48 AM

I feel like his newest Turbo video was a little better, though not much. I think the "guru" actually tried a little more than 1% this time. Video still eats shit compared to what any real OBEY enthusiast could accomplish, but eh, it's at least something. Thanks once again Metal Christian, for raising Turbo prices even more. lol

*sighs*

seieienbu · 03/01/2015, 04:23 AM

I think the video is pretty bad. I found it particularly grating when they'd talk about some feature of a game with words but not bother showing me said feature at all. It made the whole thing feel like zero effort was put forth and that the videos were very dialed in.

"While I like shooters, I'm not good at them and I get frustrated easily" ...yeah, what I'm hearing hear is that you dislike shooters.

slinkyturd · 03/01/2015, 04:33 AM

Quote from: seieienbu on 03/01/2015, 04:23 AMI think the video is pretty bad. I found it particularly grating when they'd talk about some feature of a game with words but not bother showing me said feature at all. It made the whole thing feel like zero effort was put forth and that the videos were very dialed in.

"While I like shooters, I'm not good at them and I get frustrated easily" ...yeah, what I'm hearing hear is that you dislike shooters.

What I'm seeing is that he dislikes chraisma more.

seieienbu · 03/01/2015, 06:01 AM

Normally I'd fix a grammatical error but I didn't see it until it was quoted.

...the shame.

slinkyturd · 03/01/2015, 05:33 PM

Quote from: seieienbu on 03/01/2015, 06:01 AMNormely id ficks a gramatical erroar butt i didnt sea it untill it was cuoted.

...the shame.

poponon · 03/01/2015, 05:44 PM

Quote from: seieienbu on 03/01/2015, 04:23 AM"While I like shooters, I'm not good at them and I get frustrated easily" .

cr8zykuban0 · 03/02/2015, 02:28 AM

Quote from: guest on 02/27/2015, 10:21 AM
Quote from: mickcris on 02/27/2015, 09:40 AMJust watched the newest Metal Jesus on shooters and it was pretty bad:

They have PC Engine games mixed in with TG16 games and dont mention that you cannot actually play them without a convertor or region switch.

He also couldn't remember 100% if the TG16 controller has turbo switches so he must not actually use his much.
These guys crack me up. This Carlos character is a TG-16 guru? Really?

Some of my favorite comments:

Blazing Lazers is based off the Japanese movie Gunhed, I didn't know that.

Seriously!? The game is fucking called Gunhed in Japan.

China Warrior is like Double Dragon.

China Warrior is nothing like DD douche. Try Kung Fu or Vigilante.

Its so Zen like....

What the hell does that even mean in relation to a shooter game?

oh god. is that carlos guy even a tg guru or does he just play one in the videos? havent seen the video yet but something tells me itll be bad

slinkyturd · 03/02/2015, 02:30 AM

He is visibly reading everything off a piece of paper. My guess is a wiki print out.

esteban · 03/02/2015, 06:58 AM

Quote from: slinkyturd on 03/02/2015, 02:30 AMHe is visibly reading everything off a piece of paper. My guess is a wiki print out.

Yes, he literally has notes.

However, if he didn't have notes, I fear that the video would have been unwatchable.

Although some found the video unwatchable as-is.

Medic_wheat · 03/02/2015, 01:10 PM

Well to be honest he whole guru things seemed more younger in check jest then actually seeming him as an expert.

Hell for all we know he could litterly be the only person he knows who plays the TG-16 apart from himself.

man himself having some exposed to the TG-16 but seeminly uninterested in it apart from the few games he has obtained.

HailingTheThings · 03/02/2015, 05:31 PM

Quote from: Medic_wheat on 03/02/2015, 01:10 PMWell to be honest he whole guru things seemed more younger in check jest then actually seeming him as an expert.

Hell for all we know he could ~~litterly~~ literally be the only person he knows who plays the TG-16 apart from himself.

man himself having some exposed to the TG-16 but seeminly uninterested in it apart from the few games he has obtained.

In the land of the blind, the man with one eye is king.

Medic_wheat · 03/02/2015, 06:54 PM

Quote from: HailingTheThings on 03/02/2015, 05:31 PM
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 03/02/2015, 01:10 PMWell to be honest he whole guru things seemed more younger in check jest then actually seeming him as an expert.

Hell for all we know he could ~~litterly~~ literally be the only person he knows who plays the TG-16 apart from himself.

man himself having some exposed to the TG-16 but seeminly uninterested in it apart from the few games he has obtained.
In the land of the blind, the man with one eye is king.

Thanks!

cr8zykuban0 · 03/03/2015, 03:25 AM

i didnt really dig the video. i didnt like how he had notes that he was reading from. if he really was a "guru" he wouldn't need notes and be able to talk about the game off the top of his head. I'm sure as hell no guru on turbo, hell i've only been a turbo owner for 2 years and a duo r owner for less than a year but maybe, just maybe, i may know a tiny bit more about turbo than carlos. They should have also named the title best turbografx/ pc engine shooter since games like coryoon and salamander were never released in the u.s. sadly

JoshTurboTrollX · 03/03/2015, 11:47 AM

"AirZonk also has companion missles"

FUCK THIS.

BrosephPCE · 03/03/2015, 12:38 PM

Fuck Metal Jesus and people like him. These guys are a dime a dozen on Youtube and are responsible for a large part of all the misinformation about retro consoles that goes around. I'm sure he has good intentions but the content is just not worth watching. I'll stick with AVGN, Game Sack, and JonTron, thanks.

Opethian · 03/03/2015, 02:27 PM

ad revenue

that's all I see

CGQuarterly · 03/03/2015, 02:38 PM

Quote from: cr8zykuban0 on 03/03/2015, 03:25 AMi didnt really dig the video. i didnt like how he had notes that he was reading from. if he really was a "guru" he wouldn't need notes and be able to talk about the game off the top of his head. I'm sure as hell no guru on turbo, hell i've only been a turbo owner for 2 years and a duo r owner for less than a year but maybe, just maybe, i may know a tiny bit more about turbo than carlos.

Even if you're not a guru, just do your homework before you show up for the shoot. You don't have to be a guru to pass yourself off as one, especially in a non-interactive format like a YouTube video. It's not like he had to ask questions from a live studio audience. He literally had to show up and act like he knew about a handful of games. I don't understand why Metal Jesus felt the need to bring him on the show in the first place. I do YouTube shows where I feature games that I didn't previously know a lot about. I just play the shit out of them and read about their history. It's not exactly a mentally demanding thing to do, it just takes preparation.

Quotead revenue

that's all I see

I really wonder what some of these guys make in ad revenue. It must be a sliding scale. I know how much I make, and if I extrapolate it out based on the number of views that these guys have compared to what I have (which is orders of magnitude less) it still ain't that much money. Unfortunately it seems like the first rule of YouTube ad revenue is that you don't talk about YouTube ad revenue. Which I think is because we all assume that these guys are making more than they actually are, and they obviously don't want to admit it (and I wouldn't blame them.)

Edit 2: Maybe I'm wrong. Metal Jesus' most watched video is a top 10 (lol) of PSX/PS2 games, which got about 750,000 views. If I take that and mutliply it by the per-view amount of money that my top-viewed video has, then he would have made almost $1200 on that vid. In case anyone is wondering, my top-viewed video has made me $9.40 so far. Retirement, here I come.

esteban · 03/03/2015, 03:29 PM

$9.40.

poponon · 03/03/2015, 03:51 PM

Wasn't aware of this was your youtube channel jibba, I'm pretty sure I've visited it before for the operation logic bomb review. I'll be checking out the rest soon for sure. Should post some more OBEY reviews and share them here !

CGQuarterly · 03/03/2015, 04:30 PM

Quote from: poponon on 03/03/2015, 03:51 PMWasn't aware of this was your youtube channel jibba, I'm pretty sure I've visited it before for the operation logic bomb review. I'll be checking out the rest soon for sure. Should post some more OBEY reviews and share them here !

Yeah Operation Logic Bomb was one of my earlier videos. Fun game though. I had never heard of it when I bought it, but it's definitely a keeper. Thanks for watching.

mackdanger · 03/03/2015, 11:20 PM

Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/03/2015, 04:30 PMYeah Operation Logic Bomb was one of my earlier videos. Fun game though. I had never heard of it when I bought it, but it's definitely a keeper. Thanks for watching.

I usually don't pay attention to people's sigs, so I didn't know that was your channel either. Let's give it a quick once over.

No pickups videos.
No "Yo! Look at all my shit!" videos.
No Loot Box or Crap Box or whatever it is called unboxings.
No thumbnails of you making a goofy face for no reason at all.
No "Let's Play" videos of you screaming like a little girl at screen savers like Five Nights at Freddy Got Fingered.
No Mine Craft videos.
You actually talk about the games, instead of using the games to trick people into watching your videos and then only talking about yourself.

Talk about doing it completely fucking wrong. Now you know why you are only clocking $9.40.

(Will sub later O:))

esadajr · 03/04/2015, 10:36 AM

I suggest you to check out Retro Revenge https://www.youtube.com/user/RetroRevenge2014

It's all about the fun. My favorite episode was NES Soccer.

Joe Redifer · 03/04/2015, 04:26 PM

This thread is messed up. You guys will be losing your collective shit over the Metal Jesus episode that will be posted on April 3rd. You will all go fucking nuts. I absolutely cannot wait. And no, there's no reference to this forum or any of that in there. He's not a member of this forum so he couldn't even view this thread if he wanted to.

As for ad revenue, nothin' wrong with that. Any issues with TV shows making money? Movies? Radio? Didn't think so. Don't like, don't watch. If you like and watch, the easiest way to support is by letting the ads play. Turn your speakers down or something while they play. Anyway ads are definitely different per channel. You can't sell the same ads on, say, Prank vs Prank as you can on Game Sack. We have different audiences altogether. If Game Sack were to start doing Lets Plays, we'd fragment our audience and wouldn't be able to sell the same ads any more. If we did a video about our favorite Elvis albums, suddenly we'd have a lot of Elvis fans to cater to and selling ads would be even harder. It's really quite a science.

SmokeMonster · 03/04/2015, 04:43 PM

MJR seems like a guy who loves games, and he makes great videos. I've had him featured on my channel since its inception for a good reason; he's a genuine entertainer and his videos are well made and thoughtfully edited. Does it bother me if he's not an expert in every system that he reviews, or every game? Not one bit. It also doesn't bother me that he's relatively popular, because he actually deserves it.

What does "ruin my fath in humanity" is seeing people boast about trolling a youtuber in the first page of the thread without anyone even blinking. That is seriously pathetic.

NecroPhile · 03/04/2015, 05:06 PM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 03/04/2015, 04:26 PMAs for ad revenue, nothin' wrong with that.

It's not that ad revenue is bad, it's that many youtube shows seem to center their content around maximizing their ad revenue instead of providing a quality, entertaining show. It's like websites that split up a top ten list into 10 separate pages just so they can get 10 separate clicks, even if each page is just a photo or two and a three sentence message; it's a turn off.

Quote from: SmokeMonster on 03/04/2015, 04:43 PMWhat does "ruin my fath in humanity" is seeing people boast about trolling a youtuber in the first page of the thread without anyone even blinking. That is seriously pathetic.

Nobody blinked because nobody took slinky seriously. Duh.

CGQuarterly · 03/04/2015, 05:20 PM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 03/04/2015, 04:26 PMThis thread is messed up. You guys will be losing your collective shit over the Metal Jesus episode that will be posted on April 3rd. You will all go fucking nuts. I absolutely cannot wait. And no, there's no reference to this forum or any of that in there. He's not a member of this forum so he couldn't even view this thread if he wanted to.

I predict one of two things. Either he got a copy of Magical Chase, and the "guru" Carlos comes back on so that they can say a few factually incorrect things read from a page pf notes, or he got Tobias' repro sets and is going to do a video review. My only question is how Joe factors in to all of this.

HailingTheThings · 03/04/2015, 05:39 PM

Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/04/2015, 05:20 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 03/04/2015, 04:26 PMThis thread is messed up. You guys will be losing your collective shit over the Metal Jesus episode that will be posted on April 3rd. You will all go fucking nuts. I absolutely cannot wait. And no, there's no reference to this forum or any of that in there. He's not a member of this forum so he couldn't even view this thread if he wanted to.
I predict one of two things. Either he got a copy of Magical Chase, and the "guru" Carlos comes back on so that they can say a few factually incorrect things read from a page pf notes, or he got Tobias' repro sets and is going to do a video review. My only question is how Joe factors in to all of this.

DING DING DING - We have a winner!*

*I have no idea, but seems more probable than chaaaaasssssssesssssssss.

#Derp.

Sadler · 03/04/2015, 05:49 PM

This thread and the Tobias thread ruin my faith in PCEFX.

NecroPhile · 03/04/2015, 06:06 PM

Everybody should love metal jesus and every other youtube video maker ever. If you don't like him, you're an asshole.

poponon · 03/04/2015, 06:24 PM

Although some of the smack-talk in this thread is a little over the top , I think most is somewhat constructive criticism . It's just blown a little bit out of proportion for the sake of humor. It's fun to roast someone. Pansies need to lighten up a little

CGQuarterly · 03/04/2015, 06:35 PM

Quote from: poponon on 03/04/2015, 06:24 PMAlthough some of the smack-talk in this thread is a little over the top , I think most is somewhat constructive criticism . It's just blown a little bit out of proportion for the sake of humor. It's fun to roast someone. Pansies need to lighten up a little

The only thing that I thought was over-the-top was making fun of his personal appearance. It's fine to say that you don't like his videos, but making fun of his teeth is grade school playground shit.

poponon · 03/04/2015, 06:48 PM

Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/04/2015, 06:35 PMThe only thing that I thought was over-the-top was making fun of his personal appearance. It's fine to say that you don't like his videos, but making fun of his teeth is grade school playground shit.

I can agree with you on that. Didn't see that post at first

mackdanger · 03/05/2015, 03:18 AM

As much as I rag on unboxing and pickup videos, in all honestly, I don't really have much of a problem with them. If people want to show off their crap, do it. When I get irritated is when people take a "look at all my shit" video and disguise it as an information / commentary video. Someone standing with a big pile of expensive crap and spitting a bunch of uninformed nonsense is usually a dead giveaway.

It's only a matter of time before most of these guys run out of things to talk about. There are only so many times the same Wikipedia level factoids about release dates and shit like that can be repackaged and re-uploaded before people realize they are watching different people say the same things. Hidden gems? Nothing is hidden anymore and it's been that way for a long time.

I want to make it clear that although metal guy is the topic of the thread, I am just talking about YT Gaming in general here.

HailingTheThings · 03/05/2015, 05:30 AM

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NightWolve · 03/05/2015, 11:58 AM

Quote from: poponon on 03/04/2015, 06:24 PMAlthough some of the smack-talk in this thread is a little over the top , I think most is somewhat constructive criticism . It's just blown a little bit out of proportion for the sake of humor. It's fun to roast someone. Pansies need to lighten up a little

Yeah, I agree. I think the "OMG, he SO SO *RUINS* my faith in humanity!!!" is over the top in response to some gamer who makes Youtube videos that seems nice enough. I'd understand more if he was confrontational, flips people the bird in his videos, trash talks, like say AlphaOmegaSin or something. You start taking on political issues or something, it gets understandably divisive, ugly, etc. But yeah, I get that it's done for part humorous effect and so forth.

To me, he just looks annoying I guess and I just avoid his stuff. Personally, I like AVGN, GameSack and a little HappyConsoleGamer once in a blue moon.

esteban · 03/05/2015, 01:42 PM

Quote from: Sadler on 03/04/2015, 05:49 PMThis thread and the Tobias thread ruin my faith in PCEFX.

Hell yes.

DildoKKKobold · 03/05/2015, 01:50 PM

Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/03/2015, 02:38 PMI really wonder what some of these guys make in ad revenue. It must be a sliding scale. I know how much I make, and if I extrapolate it out based on the number of views that these guys have compared to what I have (which is orders of magnitude less) it still ain't that much money. Unfortunately it seems like the first rule of YouTube ad revenue is that you don't talk about YouTube ad revenue. Which I think is because we all assume that these guys are making more than they actually are, and they obviously don't want to admit it (and I wouldn't blame them.)

Edit 2: Maybe I'm wrong. Metal Jesus' most watched video is a top 10 (lol) of PSX/PS2 games, which got about 750,000 views. If I take that and mutliply it by the per-view amount of money that my top-viewed video has, then he would have made almost $1200 on that vid. In case anyone is wondering, my top-viewed video has made me $9.40 so far. Retirement, here I come.

It is a sliding scale. According to what I've read, it can go as high as $10 per 1000 views. I don't think MJR makes that much, but the average is still pretty high.

http://www.reelseo.com/youtube-stars-cpm/

That shitty Rondo of Blood video, with Mike "Turbographic" Matei has 491k views. If we assume that the average is $7.60, as most articles are reporting, they made close to $4k off that one video. This seems like the average for one of their weekly "Let's Play" videos... Which, since they are doing it weekly, is around $200,000 per year. This doesn't even include the "nerd" videos, which draw millions of views.

CGQuarterly · 03/05/2015, 02:19 PM

Wow, if the average is $7.60 per 1,000 views then I must be doing something seriously wrong because I'm getting a fraction of that. Is it because I don't overlay ads? I only have the ad at the beginning of the video. Overlaid ads piss me off as a viewer so I'm not going to subject the people who watch my videos to that shit.

Joe Redifer · 03/05/2015, 04:03 PM

Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/04/2015, 05:20 PMI predict one of two things. Either he got a copy of Magical Chase, and the "guru" Carlos comes back on so that they can say a few factually incorrect things read from a page pf notes, or he got Tobias' repro sets and is going to do a video review. My only question is how Joe factors in to all of this.

Hahaha! No to both. But I could see Reggie popping in with those repros some day. I don't factor into any of it, I just happen to know what he's up to. In fact he hadn't even shot the episode until last night, AFTER I posted about it. It's like I can see the future!

Quote from: Dark KoboldIt is a sliding scale. According to what I've read, it can go as high as $10 per 1000 views. I don't think MJR makes that much, but the average is still pretty high.

Just go to www.socialblade.com and type in a channel name to get an extremely rough estimate of what they make. Their figures aren't entirely accurate and they tend to go from the extremely low end to the high end. It's only a guess that doesn't really take into account what types of ads may play on a given channel.

CGQuarterly · 03/05/2015, 04:29 PM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 03/05/2015, 04:03 PM
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/04/2015, 05:20 PMI predict one of two things. Either he got a copy of Magical Chase, and the "guru" Carlos comes back on so that they can say a few factually incorrect things read from a page pf notes, or he got Tobias' repro sets and is going to do a video review. My only question is how Joe factors in to all of this.
Hahaha! No to both. But I could see Reggie popping in with those repros some day. I don't factor into any of it, I just happen to know what he's up to. In fact he hadn't even shot the episode until last night, AFTER I posted about it. It's like I can see the future!

Hmmm. I really can't imagine what he could do that would bother me that much. You just had me wondering what it could be that would make everyone lose their shit here. Maybe his top-10 rarest games? I'll just have to wait until next month.

It's not that I *hate* his videos or anything. I've watched a bunch of them. It's just obvious that he is following a formula in order to maximize ad revenue. The best channels do that, but don't make it obvious.

DildoKKKobold · 03/05/2015, 07:51 PM

Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/05/2015, 02:19 PMWow, if the average is $7.60 per 1,000 views then I must be doing something seriously wrong because I'm getting a fraction of that. Is it because I don't overlay ads? I only have the ad at the beginning of the video. Overlaid ads piss me off as a viewer so I'm not going to subject the people who watch my videos to that shit.

I think its based on your number of subscribers/anticipated views. You'd have to grow your viewer base quite a bit probably, to get closer to the average.

I do think that MJR makes more money and gets more views simply because he is constantly producing "content." He's got a video per week coming out, so that keeps him relevant and on people's youtube homepage. The downside, as has been hashed out repeatedly in this thread, is that the content suffers from a lack of quality in the information department. He's probably far from doing this as a sole source of income, (i.e. he has a real job), so he doesn't spend much time researching or vetting his "gurus."

It seems like, in the Web 2.0 model (ugh, I feel dirty saying that) less actually isn't more... more is more.

CGQuarterly · 03/05/2015, 11:18 PM

Quote from: guest on 03/05/2015, 07:51 PM
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/05/2015, 02:19 PMWow, if the average is $7.60 per 1,000 views then I must be doing something seriously wrong because I'm getting a fraction of that. Is it because I don't overlay ads? I only have the ad at the beginning of the video. Overlaid ads piss me off as a viewer so I'm not going to subject the people who watch my videos to that shit.
I think its based on your number of subscribers/anticipated views. You'd have to grow your viewer base quite a bit probably, to get closer to the average.

I do think that MJR makes more money and gets more views simply because he is constantly producing "content." He's got a video per week coming out, so that keeps him relevant and on people's youtube homepage. The downside, as has been hashed out repeatedly in this thread, is that the content suffers from a lack of quality in the information department. He's probably far from doing this as a sole source of income, (i.e. he has a real job), so he doesn't spend much time researching or vetting his "gurus."

It seems like, in the Web 2.0 model (ugh, I feel dirty saying that) less actually isn't more... more is more.

I definitely agree that in my particular case, I do not upload videos often enough, which is mostly due to laziness (which for many reasons, I need to curb.) That's only part of the equation with YouTube, though. They place a heavy premium on "audience retention", which is a fancy way to say "how long do your viewers watch one of your videos?". If everyone is cutting out when its like halfway done, your retention numbers don't look that great, and YT doesn't promote your content as much. That's why "top 10" and "hidden gems" videos tend to do well. People keep watching to see what game will come up next. If you just make a video about Game X, the viewer knows that the entire video is covering that one topic, and they minute they get bored, they bail. As a viewer, I am plenty guilty of that myself.

slinkyturd · 03/06/2015, 04:42 AM

Quote from: poponon on 03/04/2015, 06:48 PM
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/04/2015, 06:35 PMThe only thing that I thought was over-the-top was making fun of his personal appearance. It's fine to say that you don't like his videos, but making fun of his teeth is grade school playground shit.
I can agree with you on that. Didn't see that post at first

Teeth are completely fair game. If he weren't in the video and was just a voice over I'd agree with both of you, but I have to stare at his goofy stupid troll face in every video. Looks are fair game.

poponon · 03/06/2015, 06:53 AM

Quote from: slinkyturd on 03/06/2015, 04:42 AMTeeth are completely fair game. If he weren't in the video and was just a voice over I'd agree with both of you, but I have to stare at his goofy stupid troll face in every video. Looks are fair game.

Constructive

bob · 03/06/2015, 06:58 AM

Quote from: slinkyturd on 03/06/2015, 04:42 AM
Quote from: poponon on 03/04/2015, 06:48 PM
Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/04/2015, 06:35 PMThe only thing that I thought was over-the-top was making fun of his personal appearance. It's fine to say that you don't like his videos, but making fun of his teeth is grade school playground shit.
I can agree with you on that. Didn't see that post at first
Teeth are completely fair game. If he weren't in the video and was just a voice over I'd agree with both of you, but I have to stare at his goofy stupid troll face in every video. Looks are fair game.

Agreed. If you put your mug in a youtube video, prepare for whatever is said. Nobody made you do it.

GoldenWheels · 03/06/2015, 11:14 AM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 03/04/2015, 04:26 PMIf you like and watch, the easiest way to support is by letting the ads play. Turn your speakers down or something while they play.

Do channels not get ad revenue if you skip (where allowed) the commercial?

warpig227 · 03/06/2015, 01:28 PM

i personally enjoy his videos. he's not the most knowledgeable but that's youtube. anyone can make videos about whatever they want. doesnt matter really what they say. i watch him for the laugh factor. i get a kick out of the goofiness

CGQuarterly · 03/06/2015, 02:32 PM

Quote from: warpig227 on 03/06/2015, 01:28 PMi personally enjoy his videos. he's not the most knowledgeable but that's youtube. anyone can make videos about whatever they want. doesnt matter really what they say. i watch him for the laugh factor. i get a kick out of the goofiness

I like the goofiness, as well. I liked his earlier videos when it was him and Drunken Master Paul and it seemed more like they were making videos for the fun of it. Much like Game Sack (in this one sense only), they just looked like a couple of guys that I would like to hang out and play games with. I just think his channel jumped the shark when it became (ostensibly) his primary income stream. Although I think that was probably his goal from the start (not that there's anything wrong with that.)

DildoKKKobold · 03/06/2015, 02:50 PM

Quote from: CGQuarterly on 03/05/2015, 11:18 PMI definitely agree that in my particular case, I do not upload videos often enough, which is mostly due to laziness (which for many reasons, I need to curb.) That's only part of the equation with YouTube, though. They place a heavy premium on "audience retention", which is a fancy way to say "how long do your viewers watch one of your videos?". If everyone is cutting out when its like halfway done, your retention numbers don't look that great, and YT doesn't promote your content as much. That's why "top 10" and "hidden gems" videos tend to do well. People keep watching to see what game will come up next. If you just make a video about Game X, the viewer knows that the entire video is covering that one topic, and they minute they get bored, they bail. As a viewer, I am plenty guilty of that myself.

That is interesting, I didn't know that about Youtube. I guess if that is the way the game is played...

I guess it comes down to what you are trying to achieve and what your priorities are. If you want to be a big Youtube name with a large revenue stream, then you probably have to play the game. You have to start making content faster and more often, advertise/spam your videos on forums, facebook, and etc. You'd also benefit by sucking-up to the big name Youtubers. You could get more subscriptions by showing up on shows like MJR, Game Chasers, AVGN, and Game Sack, then having them link to your channel in that video. You could focus on top-10 videos, which force full watches. That said, if you are just interested in producing quality content that appeals to a small audience, without regard to revenue or popularity, then none of that earlier bullshit matters.

As a total aside, I don't understand why the big twitch.tv streamers are as big as they are. I mainly watch speedrunners... People like CalebHart, Cosmo, and Cirno are not particularly compelling as individuals... yet these people are making a ton of cash as a streamer. Its even crazier for Heartstone or Darkstone or whatever it is streamers. They can be making $50k a month in donations...

Joe Redifer · 03/06/2015, 07:55 PM

Quote from: GoldenWheels on 03/06/2015, 11:14 AM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 03/04/2015, 04:26 PMIf you like and watch, the easiest way to support is by letting the ads play. Turn your speakers down or something while they play.
Do channels not get ad revenue if you skip (where allowed) the commercial?

I'm not sure. I'd think that they'd get at least something but not as much as if you let the entire ad play. But again I'm not really sure. I'll have to ask Ryan next time I think of it.