Metal Jesus ruins my faith in humanity

[Mzo]

Ian is a manager at one of the Luna Games stores in San Diego. People generally find him more interesting than Pat and I think that's why his podcast has any degree of success.

I've listened to those podcasts from time to time and it's definitely 99% because of Ian.

The only other person I respect (outside of Game Sack, of course) in that entire group is Roo.  Wish he made more videos =[

[mackdanger]

This is definitely a thing on YouTube and on Podcasts.  You get these shows run by a member of this new generation of kids who are into old games, and they just try too hard to establish credibility. 

Now we're getting somewhere...
Just recently I was searching for a Wizard of Wor video for a 3-D modelling project. For the record, I used to jam on some Wizard of Wor, and it was one of the games I used to play co-op with my dad. So in my search results, a Wor video pops up authored by AVGN's bottom bitch. The first thing he says is something like, "Back in my day WoW meant Wizard of Wor, not World of Warcraft" or some shit like that. If the info on his age is correct, that fool was 1 year old when Wor came out. The frequency with which they changed out arcade machines at the time, meant that when he was finally old enough to go to an arcade and remember the experience, the odds of Wor still being there were almost nil.

Don't get me wrong. If some snot nose comes along, picks up an old copy of Contra and really enjoys it, well that's just fine. What the "come lately's" and the posers need to realize, however, is that their opinions will always be worth less than the opinion of someone who was there. Like music, movies, t.v. shows, and toys, video games are cultural artifacts. They are products of a specific time that encapsulated the trends, fads, and attitudes contained within. I can pick up a CD of Vietnam War era protest music, and maybe even enjoy it. I am, however, unable to enjoy or understand it the same way someone from that era is able to understand it. Their connection will always be by default, much stronger than mine. For me to stomp around grousing about Ho Chi Minh and LBJ would be comically stupid.

Just in case, if anyone is thinking about throwing out the word "elitist" after reading this, I suggest you don't. Elitist is another word that has been ruined by the internet because dummies don't understand what it means. My position is neither elitist nor even exclusionary. To clarify, I am not saying the kiddies can't play. I am saying that they cannot understand these things the way that I do and they shouldn't pretend that they can. 

The people who talk about their torment and how they were ostracized for being nerds for playing video games are probably mostly exaggerating as well. I am not saying it didn't happen, I just don't think it was as widespread or severe as a lot of people say it was. You can see evidence in the news reports and sales figures from the time. Arcades were always packed, the home console and PC gaming market were huge for the time. I was in junior high when Zelda came out, and the person who told me about the hidden rupee island was the quarterback for the football team. I am willing to bet that a good number of these "tormented" cut off and segregated themselves, rather than the other way around.

[Gentlegamer]

I was ostracized for being a D&D nerd, not for video games.

[Joe Redifer]

Johnny Turbo worked for FEKA?!?!

Sega-CD, in fact. JB = FEKA

I don't know if he worked on the Sega CD, but he was definitely there for the 32X launch. He worked on Star Wars Arcade and Doom of I recall.

[ClodBusted]

My heart jumped when PuhBuhGee was mentioned. Adventure, yaaay!

Srsly, I like his goofiness. And his videos are edited pretty well to my uneducated eye.

When thinking of Pat, I think his first reviews had good intentions, but he didn't improved much. When he flooded his channel with podcasts, I quit my subscription.

Thinking of Bucci, his early Turbo reviews began similar, but he improved a lot over time and he gives me the feeling that he know what he's talking about. I just wish he'd do RGB or component video, but well, at least for me his style remains more true to the original experience than simply  relying on emulation.

[Joe Redifer]

Chris Bucci is amazing.

[bozo55]

Hell they have that Arin Egoraptor guy who rarely provides anything useful simply because he is popular. Watch the upcoming Castlevania segment. He's in there just because he's him but what he says adds nothing to anything and is just a waste of time. He almost always complains about the games he talks about. If you were to watch his raw footage, you'd realize just how high he was when it was recorded.

Geez Louise.  What an insult to Castlevania having that guy on.  I just watched that segment and Joe is not exaggerating.  I don't even see how anyone could have found him funny either (and I find Game Grumps to be mildly entertaining).

[EvilEvoIX]

Chris Bucci is amazing.

Best Turbo Reviewer, big Pinball fan too.

[GoldenWheels]

Chris Bucci is amazing.

Best Turbo Reviewer, big Pinball fan too.

I live vicariously through his pinball vids. They are also excellent.

[ToyMachine78]

Hell they have that Arin Egoraptor guy who rarely provides anything useful simply because he is popular. Watch the upcoming Castlevania segment. He's in there just because he's him but what he says adds nothing to anything and is just a waste of time. He almost always complains about the games he talks about. If you were to watch his raw footage, you'd realize just how high he was when it was recorded.

Geez Louise.  What an insult to Castlevania having that guy on.  I just watched that segment and Joe is not exaggerating.  I don't even see how anyone could have found him funny either (and I find Game Grumps to be mildly entertaining).

I the thought the guy from game chasers appeared high. Glassy eyes. The other guy just sounded like an idiot.

[Gentlegamer]

I just saw the Egorator segment.

Seriously, who approved that?

[sirhcman]

I just saw the Egorator segment.

Seriously, who approved that?

Pat Contri

[HailingTheThings]

I just saw the Egorator segment.

Seriously, who approved that?

Pat Contri

He goes out of his way to bring up more famous Youtubers that he "talks to/is friends with." I think he may be a starfakker.

[ClodBusted]

I wish Ego would return to voice dubbing and animation instead of showing his face in front of a camera.

[HailingTheThings]

I wish Ego would return to voice dubbing and animation instead of showing his face in front of a camera.

Yeah. That'd be nice.

[ToyMachine78]

I wish Ego would return to voice dubbing and animation instead of showing his face in front of a camera.

Yeah. That'd be nice.

Your new avatar really creeps me out

[HailingTheThings]

I wish Ego would return to voice dubbing and animation instead of showing his face in front of a camera.

Yeah. That'd be nice.

Your new avatar really creeps me out

That's actually what I look like/Mission accomplished.

#boobiesorsomethingamirite

[Joe Redifer]

Pat Contri

He goes out of his way to bring up more famous Youtubers that he "talks to/is friends with." I think he may be a starfakker.

Ding ding sing! We have a winner! According to famous Youtubers I talk to (heh, "famous" being highly debatable... actually not really debatable... more like "moderately known") at conventions if Pat is talking to you and someone with significantly more subs than you walks into the room, Pat will ignore you and go out of his way to talk to that person. The little guy doesn't matter. I wonder how many people actually consider Pat their friend, though.

[sirhcman]

Pat Contri

He goes out of his way to bring up more famous Youtubers that he "talks to/is friends with." I think he may be a starfakker.

Ding ding sing! We have a winner! According to famous Youtubers I talk to (heh, "famous" being highly debatable... actually not really debatable... more like "moderately known") at conventions if Pat is talking to you and someone with significantly more subs than you walks into the room, Pat will ignore you and go out of his way to talk to that person. The little guy doesn't matter. I wonder how many people actually consider Pat their friend, though.

Well he is a self professed "Punk" so I guess it should come as no surprise.

[HailingTheThings]

Pat Contri

He goes out of his way to bring up more famous Youtubers that he "talks to/is friends with." I think he may be a starfakker.

Ding ding sing! We have a winner! According to famous Youtubers I talk to (heh, "famous" being highly debatable... actually not really debatable... more like "moderately known") at conventions if Pat is talking to you and someone with significantly more subs than you walks into the room, Pat will ignore you and go out of his way to talk to that person. The little guy doesn't matter. I wonder how many people actually consider Pat their friend, though.

Well he is a self professed "Punk" so I guess it should come as no surprise.

Well, damn. Pat The STAR feck. lol *supercatface*

[Medic_wheat]

For someone calling themselves a NES punk he sure does seem to talk a lot about non NES stuff.

[CGQuarterly]

I feel uncool because I have no idea who Pat the NES Punk is.  But I have also never watched an AVGN episode in my life, so I guess I'm just a loser.

[ToyMachine78]

I feel uncool because I have no idea who Pat the NES Punk is.  But I have also never watched an AVGN episode in my life, so I guess I'm just a loser.

No AVGN?! So many great episodes. Sega CD and 32x are two of my favorites. Friday the 13th is great too.

[Medic_wheat]

Honestly for every AVGN NES PUnk Metal Jeues or Apha Omega Sin I prefer the you tubers more who do not feel the need to don a persona and can simply be themselves without embellishment.

Hence why I enjoy gamesack and turbo views and such.

[CGQuarterly]

Honestly for every AVGN NES PUnk Metal Jeues or Apha Omega Sin I prefer the you tubers more who do not feel the need to don a persona and can simply be themselves without embellishment.

Hence why I enjoy gamesack and turbo views and such.

Pretty much this.  I don't like the guys on YT who feel the need to have a personality that isn't their own.  What you see is what you get with me, and I feel like Game Sack and CGR are the same way.

[sirhcman]

Honestly for every AVGN NES PUnk Metal Jeues or Apha Omega Sin I prefer the you tubers more who do not feel the need to don a persona and can simply be themselves without embellishment.

Hence why I enjoy gamesack and turbo views and such.

Pretty much this.  I don't like the guys on YT who feel the need to have a personality that isn't their own.  What you see is what you get with me, and I feel like Game Sack and CGR are the same way.

Can you please do more of the Lets Read magazine episodes? I love the nostalgia!

PS: am I the only one who watches Ancient DOS Games?

[Gentlegamer]

I feel uncool because I have no idea who Pat the NES Punk is.  But I have also never watched an AVGN episode in my life, so I guess I'm just a loser.

Go watch some AVGN. Rolfe started before youtube was even a thing.

[TR0N]

I just saw the Egorator segment.

Seriously, who approved that?

I saw it wtf all he did for the castlevania segment was make fart sounds !?

[esteban]

I feel uncool because I have no idea who Pat the NES Punk is.  But I have also never watched an AVGN episode in my life, so I guess I'm just a loser.

Go watch some AVGN. Rolfe started before youtube was even a thing.

I know you did not ask. Sorry.

But here goes...

AVGN is a flawed show, but it often manages to be entertaining, DESPITE ITSELF.

I would tell most folks: watch it and decide for yourself. Look past the obvious stupidity and you will find some genuinely creative and entertaining moments. However, everyone's crap:quality ratio is different, and you might not be able to tolerate all the crap.

The key problem is that Rolfe is not convincing in his role as AVGN—he tries way too hard to drink and curse and be revolting...but he simply cannot pull off this character.

So, instead of enjoying the juvenile antics of the AVGN, I always found myself cringing: "Wow, this is just painful to watch. I feel so embarrassed for this guy." I feel the same way when AVGN is gross and shocking without any wit or purpose. Let's be clear: any idiot can conceive and create vulgar/revolting content—that takes zero talent. However, I do respect folks who produce genuinely engaging/creative content, and Rolfe *certainly* does this, too.

My problem, I guess, is that his quality:crap (literally) ratio could easily be higher. Easily. I can't help but feel that he spent years pandering to the lowest-common-denominator audience, simply to appeal to the widest audience possible (this is the approach of all mainstream media, of course...Rolfe simply operated on a smaller scale).

Thankfully, if you can stomach the tripe forced upon you in every episode, AVGN usually rewards you and can be genuinely funny. And creative.

FOR THE RECORD, I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT NOSTALGIA CRITIC, except that Nostalgia Critic is has vastly superior critiques (compared to AVGN) that are well-reasoned and supported with evidence. Even though I often disagree with Nostalgia Critic, I respect the way he presents and supports his arguments...he has a focus (thesis or narrative) and sticks to it. The show has struck a wonderful balance between seriousness:entertainment.

It's entertainment, first and foremost, but there are deeper levels, too.

AVGN never consistently reached this level of critique.

I'll stop now...

[ToyMachine78]

I feel uncool because I have no idea who Pat the NES Punk is.  But I have also never watched an AVGN episode in my life, so I guess I'm just a loser.

Go watch some AVGN. Rolfe started before youtube was even a thing.

I know you did not ask. Sorry.

But here goes...

AVGN is a flawed show, but it often manages to be entertaining, DESPITE ITSELF.

I would tell most folks: watch it and decide for yourself. Look past the obvious stupidity and you will find some genuinely creative and entertaining moments. However, everyone's crap:quality ratio is different, and you might not be able to tolerate all the crap.

The key problem is that Rolfe is not convincing in his role as AVGN—he tries way too hard to drink and curse and be revolting...but he simply cannot pull off this character.

So, instead of enjoying the juvenile antics of the AVGN, I always found myself cringing: "Wow, this is just painful to watch. I feel so embarrassed for this guy." I feel the same way when AVGN is gross and shocking without any wit or purpose. Let's be clear: any idiot can conceive and create vulgar/revolting content—that takes zero talent. However, I do respect folks who produce genuinely engaging/creative content, and Rolfe *certainly* does this, too.

My problem, I guess, is that his quality:crap (literally) ratio could easily be higher. Easily. I can't help but feel that he spent years pandering to the lowest-common-denominator audience, simply to appeal to the widest audience possible (this is the approach of all mainstream media, of course...Rolfe simply operated on a smaller scale).

Thankfully, if you can stomach the tripe forced upon you in every episode, AVGN usually rewards you and can be genuinely funny. And creative.

FOR THE RECORD, I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT NOSTALGIA CRITIC, except that Nostalgia Critic is has vastly superior critiques (compared to AVGN) that are well-reasoned and supported with evidence. Even though I often disagree with Nostalgia Critic, I respect the way he presents and supports his arguments...he has a focus (thesis or narrative) and sticks to it. The show has struck a wonderful balance between seriousness:entertainment.

It's entertainment, first and foremost, but there are deeper levels, too.

AVGN never consistently reached this level of critique.

I'll stop now...

Sounds like a personal problem.

[Gentlegamer]

AVGN reviews The Toxic Avenger, with special guest Lloyd Kaufman, founder of Troma

[ToyMachine78]

AVGN reviews The Toxic Avenger, with special guest Lloyd Kaufman, founder of Troma

That is actually one episode of avgn I don't like. That old dude seems like a creepy pervert.

[Flare65]

Can someone give me a Cliff's Notes update on what happened with Metal Jesus' road trip?  I saw the video where he announced it, and the video where he justifies his request for 50K, but I never heard anything about it since.  I know a lot of people balked at his itemized spreadsheet....were there other video game forums ripping him apart over this?

[ToyMachine78]

Can someone give me a Cliff's Notes update on what happened with Metal Jesus' road trip?  I saw the video where he announced it, and the video where he justifies his request for 50K, but I never heard anything about it since.  I know a lot of people balked at his itemized spreadsheet....were there other video game forums ripping him apart over this?

Epic Fail is the abridged version. The campaign is still on indie, but he only collected 6K and there is only 14days left. So it would be a Jesus size miracle to make his goal. He pulled the promotion videos after 2 days. I think he caught so much shit for it he abandoned ship lol

[Flare65]

I wonder what happens to the 6k when he doesn't  make his goal.......

[sirhcman]

I wonder what happens to the 6k when he doesn't  make his goal.......

I assume the money would get refunded to the people who donated. According to the indiegogo page the money is only paid to MJ if he makes the $50,000 goal.

[ToyMachine78]

I wonder what happens to the 6k when he doesn't  make his goal.......

I assume the money would get refunded to the people who donated. According to the indiegogo page the money is only paid to MJ if he makes the $50,000 goal.

I don't think it actually charges anyone until the entire goal is met. Its pretty much like a pledge to pay.

[cr8zykuban0]

i figured he wouldn't make it. 50k is way too much to ask from a fan base.

[esteban]

I want to see the second video...has anyone saved it/re-uploaded it?  Or would Jesus easily be able to get that removed from ToobYou...

[VestCunt]

Only thing worse than Metal Jesus: twenty-six pages of people talking about Metal Jesus.

[esteban]

Only thing worse than Metal Jesus: twenty-six pages of people talking about Metal Jesus.

Tell me more...

[DragonmasterDan]

Only thing worse than Metal Jesus: twenty-six pages of people talking about Metal Jesus.

Tell me more...

Damnit Esteban, now we're at 27 pages.

[Dicer]

I told youtube to hide this mess from my view, and still he manages to crawl into my lists now and again...ugh.

Maybe it's because of this very thread...

[mickcris]

He appeared on my toast this morning.

[CGQuarterly]

Anyone catch the goatee that he's sporting now?  I think it's an attempt at chin definition.  Sorry, I know that's mean...

[HailingTheThings]

Anyone catch the goatee that he's sporting now?  I think it's an attempt at chin definition.  Sorry, I know that's mean...

I think it looks good. So much so that I'm willing to overlook all his past indiscretions. Yay!

#Party

[NightWolve]

AVGN is a flawed show, but it often manages to be entertaining, DESPITE ITSELF.

I would tell most folks: watch it and decide for yourself. Look past the obvious stupidity and you will find some genuinely creative and entertaining moments. However, everyone's crap:quality ratio is different, and you might not be able to tolerate all the crap.

The key problem is that Rolfe is not convincing in his role as AVGN—he tries way too hard to drink and curse and be revolting...but he simply cannot pull off this character.

So, instead of enjoying the juvenile antics of the AVGN, I always found myself cringing: "Wow, this is just painful to watch. I feel so embarrassed for this guy." I feel the same way when AVGN is gross and shocking without any wit or purpose. Let's be clear: any idiot can conceive and create vulgar/revolting content—that takes zero talent. However, I do respect folks who produce genuinely engaging/creative content, and Rolfe *certainly* does this, too.

My problem, I guess, is that his quality:crap (literally) ratio could easily be higher. Easily. I can't help but feel that he spent years pandering to the lowest-common-denominator audience, simply to appeal to the widest audience possible (this is the approach of all mainstream media, of course...Rolfe simply operated on a smaller scale).

Thankfully, if you can stomach the tripe forced upon you in every episode, AVGN usually rewards you and can be genuinely funny. And creative.

FOR THE RECORD, I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT NOSTALGIA CRITIC, except that Nostalgia Critic is has vastly superior critiques (compared to AVGN) that are well-reasoned and supported with evidence. Even though I often disagree with Nostalgia Critic, I respect the way he presents and supports his arguments...he has a focus (thesis or narrative) and sticks to it. The show has struck a wonderful balance between seriousness:entertainment.

It's entertainment, first and foremost, but there are deeper levels, too.

AVGN never consistently reached this level of critique.

I'll stop now...

It's a fair criticism.

AVGN reviews The Toxic Avenger, with special guest Lloyd Kaufman, founder of Troma

You were sayin', este ?

[Dicer]

Ugh...

[CGQuarterly]

How does that guy have over 50k subscribers?!?

[CrackTiger]

Ugh...

'Someone just handed me this console that I don't really know much about, so I'm just gonna make it all up on the fly and post this as an informative video'.