Donald Trump Thread aka End of Days

[jlued686]

Four years ago, I watched two reasonable, educated, credible candidates for president have a relatively substantive debate.

Last night, I watched a woman stand with her mouth agape as an orange gorilla threw feces at the camera.

Just another person who loves being lied to as long as its said nicely. This will be the death of this country.

WTF?

Yeah...okay man. Rage on.

[Otaking]

Gonna watch the second debate now.
I've seen some highlights on BBC News and looks it got really heated.

[TheClash603]

Gonna watch the second debate now.
I've seen some highlights on BBC News and looks it got really heated.

I watched both and the first debate was a pretty clear Hillary victory, whereas Trump seemed to win the second.  My guy isn't in it anymore so I don't care for either very much, but that my opinion of each debate anyway.

The female moderator was trying to steal the show in debate #2, which isn't the role of a moderator, so I was pretty disappointed with that.

[jlued686]

Do yourself a favor: play some Turbo games instead.

[BigusSchmuck]

More mud slinging and no substance. Stopped watching about halfway through. Moving on..

[EvilEvoIX]

Trump killed Hilary Clinton last night.  Even MSNBC agreed:  http://www.mediaite.com/online/brzezinski-scarborough-offer-glowing-debate-reviews-it-was-epic-vintage-trump/


It's painfully obvious that the media is against him and even the moderators attacked him, the bias is sickening.  Probably why he's so popular.

[esteban]

Trump killed Hilary Clinton last night.  Even MSNBC agreed:  http://www.mediaite.com/online/brzezinski-scarborough-offer-glowing-debate-reviews-it-was-epic-vintage-trump/


It's painfully obvious that the media is against him and even the moderators attacked him, the bias is sickening.  Probably why he's so popular.

Every post you make is one, fabulous troll.

Bravo.

[jlued686]

More mud slinging and no substance. Stopped watching about halfway through. Moving on..

Me too. It was nauseating to watch. I can't imagine anyone getting any sort of satisfaction watching that shit show or being proud of their candidate afterward. I will be skipping the third.

[EvilEvoIX]

Trump killed Hilary Clinton last night.  Even MSNBC agreed:  http://www.mediaite.com/online/brzezinski-scarborough-offer-glowing-debate-reviews-it-was-epic-vintage-trump/


It's painfully obvious that the media is against him and even the moderators attacked him, the bias is sickening.  Probably why he's so popular.

Every post you make is one, fabulous troll.

Bravo.

Yeah I get that a lot from you.

[TurboXray]

is sickening

I was gonna say the same thing about Trump.




Its hilarious how people are so quick to dismiss all the shit that comes out of his mouthF. It's like were not even hearing or seeing the same things. But.. but he'll make this country great again because he's a businessman! Or he represents something different from the corrupt political system. He made his money in one narrow field of business and suddenly he's an expert on the Presidency? Might as well elect a successful corn farmer for president - he's an expert on growing corn, makes a perfect president! Or Jarred from subway for president; because he's an outsider and isn't a corrupt politician (just ignore the child porn issues). I swear, the bullshit people come up with or believe.

 Hillary's no catch, by far, but my god man.. do you realize who the fuck you're backing!?!? Jesus Christ just wait another four years and find someone SUITABLE for office. Not this ass clown. Almost anybody but this ass clown. Seriously. Hillary ain't gonna do nothing except make herself some money; calm the fuck down. There really is no urgency here.

 Don't get me wrong; the left is drunk on the blue koolaid. Typical shit. But what the fuck are you drinking that you feel the need to support this man!? The republican party and trump supporters have gone full retard. There is NOTHING you can say to show you haven't gone full retard. Nothing.

 I mean, I'm not even mad. I'm just baffled at people's reasoning and the extent of their dismissiveness. It's like half America has lost its mind.. the trump supporting half.

[jlued686]

Hillary will be a one-term president. I'm almost willing to guarantee that. People hate her so fucking much, that the only reason she's winning is because she's up against a clown.

Like Bonknuts said: wait four years for someone who's not a fucking maniac.

[BigusSchmuck]

More mud slinging and no substance. Stopped watching about halfway through. Moving on..

Me too. It was nauseating to watch. I can't imagine anyone getting any sort of satisfaction watching that shit show or being proud of their candidate afterward. I will be skipping the third.

Unless a miracle and we see Johnson on stage. As long as he doesn't have yet another Aleppo moment. Seriously though, thats a drop in a bucket compared to the other two.

[Emerald Rocker]

I'm voting for Trump.  He's the best choice for the present day, and that's what matters.

[BlueBMW]

My opinion... I think Hillary will win this cycle but she will only be a one term president.  She's about the worst candidate the Democrats could have picked and I think ultimately it will cost their party.  They really alienated a lot of new younger voters with the whole Bernie Sanders affair.  I know so many young people who really connected with Sanders over economic issues like income inequality, prohibitive cost of health care and higher education.  These young people aren't stupid.  The ones I know are mostly engineering students and are surprisingly informed about all these issues.  The feeling now is that the system really is rigged and that we really dont have power.  The Democrats had the chance to basically get a large swathe of new voters into their fold which would not only effect the presidency but countless down ballot contests.  Truly the Democrats fumbled this one... BAD.

And then there's the Donald Trump phenomenon.  I think the Donald Trump campaign "success" has revealed a side of America that is quite honestly appalling.  I really cant see how anyone can justify this guy.  Its extremely clear that he is a narcissist who has no problem demeaning women and minorities.  I mean really he is the epitome of the white male superiority paradigm.  His popularity brings into the open the fact that there are a lot of Americans who align with his values.  That is the appalling part.  I really had hoped that this country had moved beyond racism and sexism but I can see that both issues are alive and well.  Few admit that they're racist or sexist but this campaign has given many an opportunity to be comfortable in their beliefs and show them publicly.  When I lived in Tennessee I discovered that racism was very much still a thing but I thought it was a local issue.  Now with the Trump campaign I see that the problem is widespread.  This isn't to say all of Trumps supporters are racist or women-demeaning but his campaign has appealed to those that are.  They've come out of the woodwork in numbers far greater than I would have ever imagined.

Here's the part that really gets me.  The evangelical vote.  I am a church goer myself but I find myself in the minority amongst Christians being a progressive.  How the evangelicals can justify a president trump confounds me.  Usually the answer is that he's not Hillary.  That's no answer.  The attempts to justify Trump are offensive.  Evangelicals on the whole seem to be stuck in the Conservative camp over a few issues:  gay marriage, abortion etc.  Issues that rarely are legislated on and only have a small impact on society.  Economic issues harm and kill far more people than abortion or gay marriage ever will.  I saw this comic a while back and to me it really rings true.



The rest of the world is watching all of this.  I don't know the exact reactions but I'm guessing its a mix between laughter, sadness and disgust.  Really America, this is the best we could do?  Of the 280 million or so people we have living here these two individuals are what rose to the top?  I want to believe we are better, rather I have to believe we are better.

[BigusSchmuck]

My opinion... I think Hillary will win this cycle but she will only be a one term president.  She's about the worst candidate the Democrats could have picked and I think ultimately it will cost their party.  They really alienated a lot of new younger voters with the whole Bernie Sanders affair.  I know so many young people who really connected with Sanders over economic issues like income inequality, prohibitive cost of health care and higher education.  These young people aren't stupid.  The ones I know are mostly engineering students and are surprisingly informed about all these issues.  The feeling now is that the system really is rigged and that we really dont have power.  The Democrats had the chance to basically get a large swathe of new voters into their fold which would not only effect the presidency but countless down ballot contests.  Truly the Democrats fumbled this one... BAD.

And then there's the Donald Trump phenomenon.  I think the Donald Trump campaign "success" has revealed a side of America that is quite honestly appalling.  I really cant see how anyone can justify this guy.  Its extremely clear that he is a narcissist who has no problem demeaning women and minorities.  I mean really he is the epitome of the white male superiority paradigm.  His popularity brings into the open the fact that there are a lot of Americans who align with his values.  That is the appalling part.  I really had hoped that this country had moved beyond racism and sexism but I can see that both issues are alive and well.  Few admit that they're racist or sexist but this campaign has given many an opportunity to be comfortable in their beliefs and show them publicly.  When I lived in Tennessee I discovered that racism was very much still a thing but I thought it was a local issue.  Now with the Trump campaign I see that the problem is widespread.  This isn't to say all of Trumps supporters are racist or women-demeaning but his campaign has appealed to those that are.  They've come out of the woodwork in numbers far greater than I would have ever imagined.

Here's the part that really gets me.  The evangelical vote.  I am a church goer myself but I find myself in the minority amongst Christians being a progressive.  How the evangelicals can justify a president trump confounds me.  Usually the answer is that he's not Hillary.  That's no answer.  The attempts to justify Trump are offensive.  Evangelicals on the whole seem to be stuck in the Conservative camp over a few issues:  gay marriage, abortion etc.  Issues that rarely are legislated on and only have a small impact on society.  Economic issues harm and kill far more people than abortion or gay marriage ever will.  I saw this comic a while back and to me it really rings true.



The rest of the world is watching all of this.  I don't know the exact reactions but I'm guessing its a mix between laughter, sadness and disgust.  Really America, this is the best we could do?  Of the 280 million or so people we have living here these two individuals are what rose to the top?  I want to believe we are better, rather I have to believe we are better.

+1. Not a Sanders supporter, but I do like what he has to say on social issues and foreign policy. Honestly it should have been a Biden/Sanders ticket. Instead we got Billary and Drumpf.

[BlueBMW]

Really if the GOP has picked a reasonable candidate to run they probably could have easily swept this election and possibly grabbed some down ballot contests too.  Both parties so royally fumbled this cycle is scary.

[jlued686]

Buncha stuff

I agree with every single word of your post. Thumbs up.

[Dicer]

Despite his sexism, despite his bigotry, despite everything that makes him a horrible orange with a wig...

He's still got supporters, and they will show up on Voting day...Hillary doesn't have that rabid form of support, so I feel like regardless of what he does outside of literally eating a baby live on stage, he still has a shot at winning this.

I want to move, quickly...

[Gredler]

Blue gets my vote as well, excellent post.

[Emerald Rocker]

An observation....

Progressive Christians don't understand how Conservative Christians could support someone who is not virtuous.

Meanwhile, Conservative Christians say the exact same thing about Progressive Christians.  They just don't understand.

Reality is that neither candidate is virtuous.  People who vote on virtue will abstain or vote third-party.  Whereas people who set aside virtue and instead vote on policy will pick either Trump or Clinton.

And both sides will tell the other that they should vote based on virtue.

[OldRover]

I'm voting my conscience. My conscience won't allow me to vote for either of these knuckleheads... and I really enjoy people telling me the "a vote for a third party is a vote for Trump/Clinton!" (depending on the alignment of the person spewing this rhetoric). Hardcore Trump zealots get pissed when I say I'll cast my vote for Sanders (THE EVIL COMMUNIST!!!) or Stein (THE EVIL WOMAN!!!), and hardcore Clinton zealots get pissed when I say I'll cast my vote for anyone who isn't Clinton. It's very predictable and amusing. Amusingly enough, Trump zealots never seem to get their panties in a wad if I say I'll vote for Johnson...

[Emerald Rocker]

As you said, I've seen that from both sides.  No wadded panties here   Vote for whoever you like.  Everyone should feel free to do that.  Getting kind of tired of people telling each other their votes are wrong.

[BlueBMW]

An observation....

Progressive Christians don't understand how Conservative Christians could support someone who is not virtuous.

Meanwhile, Conservative Christians say the exact same thing about Progressive Christians.  They just don't understand.

Reality is that neither candidate is virtuous.  People who vote on virtue will abstain or vote third-party.  Whereas people who set aside virtue and instead vote on policy will pick either Trump or Clinton.

And both sides will tell the other that they should vote based on virtue.

Most election cycles I can accept why conservative Christians vote the way they do.  They are voting on the issues that are most important to them.  Its just my feeling that economic issues cause far more harm than any of the social issues that most Christians champion.  This cycle just seems so different and I can't reconcile Christians supporting Trump in good conscience.

[TheClash603]

An observation....

Progressive Christians don't understand how Conservative Christians could support someone who is not virtuous.

Meanwhile, Conservative Christians say the exact same thing about Progressive Christians.  They just don't understand.

Reality is that neither candidate is virtuous.  People who vote on virtue will abstain or vote third-party.  Whereas people who set aside virtue and instead vote on policy will pick either Trump or Clinton.

And both sides will tell the other that they should vote based on virtue.

Most election cycles I can accept why conservative Christians vote the way they do.  They are voting on the issues that are most important to them.  Its just my feeling that economic issues cause far more harm than any of the social issues that most Christians champion.  This cycle just seems so different and I can't reconcile Christians supporting Trump in good conscience.

They know if they don't vote for him, he'll grab them by the pussy, so there is little choice.

[BlueBMW]

Haha well played sir.  Well played indeed.

[NightWolve]

Most election cycles I can accept why conservative Christians vote the way they do.  They are voting on the issues that are most important to them.  Its just my feeling that economic issues cause far more harm than any of the social issues that most Christians champion.  This cycle just seems so different and I can't reconcile Christians supporting Trump in good conscience.

They know if they don't vote for him, he'll grab them by the pussy, so there is little choice.

[NecroPhile]

Does she even have one?  I assumed pod people were smooth down below, like a Barbie doll.

[OldRover]

Does she even have one?  I assumed pod people were smooth down below, like a Barbie doll.

In that case... is Chelsea adopted? The plot thickens...

[MotherGunner]

I was reading that one in fourteen of Americans have lost a friend due to this election.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/06/one-14-americans-lost-friend-presidential-election/

[NightWolve]

http://rare.us/story/if-youre-losing-friends-over-this-election-youre-doing-it-wrong/

[OldRover]

I have definitely lost "friends" because of this election... but moreso because they were racist assholes who hated white people and were pissed that I was not going to vote for their media darling.

[esteban]

I have definitely lost "friends" because of this election... but moreso because they were racist assholes who hated white people and were pissed that I was not going to vote for their media darling.

You crazy.

I've had to distance myself from racist/xenophobic neighbors and co-workers who were *proud* to Make America White Supremacy Again.

Luckily, I didn't lose you.

[OldRover]

I'm not crazy... people who hate other people based on their skin color are crazy. It doesn't matter what skin color you're hating... racism is racism is racism no matter how much the perpetually offended douchebags want to justify their own prejudice.

[OldRover]

YOU CANNOT DEFEAT HATRED WITH MORE HATRED.

[Sadler]

I can't stand Trump and won't be voting for him, but I ran across this Cracked article on Trump supporters and I thought it made a lot of good points. Which is surprising given the usual nature of Cracked articles.

[BlueBMW]

Surprisingly good article.   And at the end it all comes down to the same issue basically.   People just want to work and support themselves and it's becoming harder and harder to do that.

[NightWolve]

Donald and Hillary - I've Had The Time of My Life

[BlueBMW]

^^^ That video made me hurt from laughing so hard.

[ToyMachine78]

[esteban]

Both videos redeemed my hope in humanity.

Late Gugger really is the best medicine.

[esteban]

I snort Late Gugger. Good shit man.

This was an inside joke that I didn't mean to post! I took a screenshot of autocorrect hilarity to send my brother, but I thought I fixed it.

My swissler family name is "Gugger"... and I am often late.

IT WAS IF THE PREDICTIVE ALGORITHM KNEW ME.

[blueraven]

After tonight, I will finally weigh in.



Its been real.

[TurboXray]

LOL. Better get used to hearing "Madam president.."

[ClodBusted]

I'd vote for Hillary.

[DeshDildo]

How did we get here?  Seriously?  I'm betting maybe 10% of the population actually likes and can back both candidates.  As much as I would do almost anything to try and block Hillary I also can't bring myself to vote Trump.  I can't even bring myself to vote third party for Johnson.  We are all screwed.

[MotherGunner]

QFT, Desh. Anyone who votes for either of these idiots are idiots.

[BigusSchmuck]

Deez Nuts 2016. Enough said.
http://www.elect-deez-nuts.com/

[NightWolve]

[Otaking]

Two weeks to go.

[elmer]

Michael Moore in TrumpLand (2016)