PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?

Otaking · 07/03/2016, 01:55 PM

You're voting for which is better for every console variation/expansion and game ever released in CD-Rom format for either the PC Engine/TurboGrafx or Mega Drive/Genesis.

Inspired by below new Happy Console Gamer video he just uploaded and because I like versus polls.

PS this is just for fun, try not to be a dick.

esteban · 07/03/2016, 02:40 PM

I can't see any poll...

But I'll be back later!

UPDATE: Obviously, if we are voting on THE WHOLE CABOODLE, then TG-CD/DUO wins, hands down.

For ever and ever.

Amen.

rxmage · 07/03/2016, 02:46 PM

Sega had some good cd games, but I feel they tried to stick with FMV too long. NEC on the other hand, seemed to understand sooner where the real power of cd enhanced games could take the gaming experience and then came out with some truly incredible games.

CrackTiger · 07/03/2016, 02:52 PM

So we're supposed to weigh the hardware of the CD-ROM a particular amount, combined with the libraries?

I don't think that technical superiority on any level is enough to tip the balance of the massive and high quality library of Turbo/PCE CD games.

Most people tend to agree in Sega forums too, so you won't find any kind of radical bias here, at least in favor of Turbo/PCE. There are still too many people here and in other forums who don't have a clue what was actually released for Sega/Mega-CD and insist that it's mostly/all "fmv crap".

WoodyXP · 07/03/2016, 11:39 PM

I gave the nod to NEC. Developers made better use of the platform. Had the Sega CD received the same level of support it would have been top dog.

SignOfZeta · 07/04/2016, 12:36 AM

Please. Only the most hardcore Sega fanboy would say anything other than PCE. I love the Sega CD but they did so little with it and not for very long.

TR0N · 07/04/2016, 02:28 AM

Own both but in terms of quality the turbo-cd has it in spades.I do enjoy the sega-cd for the likes of popful mail,lunar tsss etc but it's out number by crappy fmv games.

Keith Courage · 07/04/2016, 04:47 AM

SEGA CD is much better because it has Marky Mark.

Sources:
Sega CD Marky Mark via onlinecollection.museumofplay.org
artsandculture.google.com/asset/video-game-sega-cd-make-my-video-marky-mark-and-the-funky-bunch-sega

Groover · 07/04/2016, 08:46 AM

As someone who has had their Sega CD since launch I still think TurboGrafx CD wins this.

Dicer · 07/04/2016, 09:33 AM

As stated by others, Turbo CD was used in a better way...none of that FMV mess.

poponon · 07/04/2016, 09:39 AM

PCE-CD just on size of library and number of worthwhile games. Sega CD has its fair share of great games though, and is definitely a worthwhile console. 32x on the other hand......

retro junkie · 07/04/2016, 09:59 AM

There is really no contest. I had both during their "Glory days." I kept waiting for Sega to figure out what their CD attachment was for. Except for a few gems, total disappointment. When my Sega CD died, I dumped the games. I had no interest to seek out another Sega CD attachment.

But the Turbo totally got it right. Love my Turbo Duo.

CrackTiger · 07/04/2016, 10:08 AM

Quote from: Dicer on 07/04/2016, 09:33 AMAs stated by others, Turbo CD was used in a better way...none of that FMV mess.

Turbo and PCE CD games do have fmv and only a small percentage of the Sega/Mega-CD library can be considered "fmv games".

esteban · 07/04/2016, 01:01 PM

Quote from: Keith Courage on 07/04/2016, 04:47 AMSEGA CD is much better because it has Marky Mark.

I am sorry, but this is my old desktop:

THIS is the sole reason for SEGA-CD superiority.

EmperorIng · 07/04/2016, 01:32 PM

Quote from: Dicer on 07/04/2016, 09:33 AMAs stated by others, Turbo CD was used in a better way...none of that FMV mess.

You forget that Sherlock Holmes came out on the Turbo CD FIRST, or do you believe Sega's lies?

SignOfZeta · 07/04/2016, 01:48 PM

Quote from: guest on 07/04/2016, 10:08 AM
Quote from: Dicer on 07/04/2016, 09:33 AMAs stated by others, Turbo CD was used in a better way...none of that FMV mess.
Turbo and PCE CD games do have fmv and only a small percentage of the Sega/Mega-CD library can be considered "fmv games".

Yeah. The term "FMV" is used way too many times in this thread by people who obviously haven't actually taken a good look at the system. It's probably more accurate to say that Sega's marketing term was all about FMV and that's why it's still the only thing that comes to mind for most people.

CrackTiger · 07/04/2016, 02:03 PM

The games that are considered straight-"fmv" style as far as gameplay are titles like Dragon's Lair and Space Ace. That kind of gameplay is popular today and featured in many of the biggest hit games which win "Game of the Year" awards.

I don't understand the stigma associated with Sega-CD games which feature fmv. If you only count the kind I described, it's not a lot and people love the gameplay when they don't think a Sega-CD is connected. The rest of the Sega-CD games that contain fmv are traditional genre games. I think that games with fmv only nake up 18% of the worldwide Sega/Mega-CD library.

Of all the lame stereotypes casual retro enthusiasts pick up, the Sega-CD "fmv crap" is the worst.

Dicer · 07/04/2016, 03:25 PM

I am fully aware that SegaCD isn't all FMV, but it is a large share of it's catalog...I'm also aware that a few titles on our beloved Turbo delved into FMV territory.

But yes between both platforms, the Turbo/PCE-CD has more to offer overall, not only in sheer volume, but variety of content, esp if you are a Japanese reading/speaking individual.

I shouldn't have to expand on my original answer, but hell here it is...

ShaneRC51 · 07/04/2016, 04:16 PM

FMV Crap =

Sewer Shark
Tomcat Alley
Night Trap
Ground Zero Texas
Etc...

Those kinds of games forever ruined my memories of Sega CD. There were some great games, like Final Fight CD, Out of this World, Lunar, The Terminator, and one of my favs, Silpheed. As much as I liked those games, I still get an ulcer when thinking about Sega CD because of those damned FMV games.

TR0N · 07/04/2016, 08:45 PM

Quote from: Keith Courage on 07/04/2016, 04:47 AMSEGA CD is much better because it has Marky Mark.

When it comes to the music on sega-cd it's all about road avengers

SignOfZeta · 07/04/2016, 09:22 PM

Quote from: ShaneRC51 on 07/04/2016, 04:16 PMFMV Crap =

Sewer Shark
Tomcat Alley
Night Trap
Ground Zero Texas
Etc...

Those kinds of games forever ruined my memories of Sega CD. There were some great games, like Final Fight CD, Out of this World, Lunar, The Terminator, and one of my favs, Silpheed. As much as I liked those games, I still get an ulcer when thinking about Sega CD because of those damned FMV games.

Well...then you're stupid. That's the only way to put it.

NecroPhile · 07/05/2016, 01:50 PM

In terms of libraries, the PCE mops the floor with the FEKA CD. It has some damn fine games (Flink is a personal favorite), but the PCE has 10x more.

It's hard to pick a clear winner on hardware capabilities. Each has its advantages: the FEKA with a speedy cpu, hardware scaling and rotation, and more ram than Super CD; the PCE-CD still with more colors and gobs of rame with the Arcade Card.

geise · 07/05/2016, 02:30 PM

I'll take bigger sprites and more colors any day of the week. Not to mention no Ys Book I & II, Spriggan, or Gate of Thunder.

cr8zykuban0 · 07/06/2016, 01:06 AM

man, this is definitely a no brainer. The turbo/pc engine cd had a ton more variety of games and much better ones too! I won't lie, sega cd has some good games and all but can't come close to the higher power that is pc engine/turbo cd!!!!

All hail nec!

BigusSchmuck · 07/06/2016, 09:30 AM

You ask this on a PCE/Turbo forum? Seriously? Sega never had a killer app for their Sega CD whereas NEC had at least a dozen. Enough said.

Otaking · 07/06/2016, 09:31 AM

I prefer the PC Engine CD, but the few times I've seen this same subject come up on other forums normally the Mega-CD/Sega CD comes out on top. To give examples I was searching some other forums where I'd seen it discussed in the past but couldn't find the threads.

Otaking · 07/06/2016, 09:35 AM

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 07/06/2016, 09:30 AMYou ask this on a PCE/Turbo forum? Seriously? Sega never had a killer app for their Sega CD whereas NEC had at least a dozen. Enough said.

this was posted as I was typing out my post above.
I prefer PC Engine CD but the Mega-CD/Sega CD without doubt did have some "killer apps".

CrackTiger · 07/06/2016, 10:06 AM

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 07/06/2016, 09:30 AMYou ask this on a PCE/Turbo forum? Seriously? Sega never had a killer app for their Sega CD whereas NEC had at least a dozen. Enough said.

For Sega-CD:

Shining Force CD
Lunar EB
Keio Flying Squadron
Robo Aleste
Snatcher
The Space Adventure

Mega-CD:

Shadowrun
Urusei Yatsura

geise · 07/06/2016, 11:40 AM

Why play Robo Aleste when you can play Spriggan? I would take Bari-Arm over Robo Aleste. It was such a let down. There are some great games on the Sega CD just few and far between. The library is way smaller.

majors · 07/06/2016, 12:15 PM

This poll/thread has to be a new kind of filter to purge the Sega fanboy accounts from PCFX.

esteban · 07/06/2016, 12:34 PM

MORE: Le Musique.

The Sega CD/Mega CD has a wealth of Red Book tunes that I, sadly, only know about 30-50% of.

For example, Nostalgia 1907 has a soundtrack that I really dig (for whatever reason, don't get too excited). Anyway, I really like listening to it when I work.

Only for MEGA CD.

CrackTiger · 07/06/2016, 01:34 PM

Quote from: geise on 07/06/2016, 11:40 AMWhy play Robo Aleste when you can play Spriggan? I would take Bari-Arm over Robo Aleste. It was such a let down. There are some great games on the Sega CD just few and far between. The library is way smaller.

Canceling out games is only what console war fans do. Why not play all the good 16-bit games? If Sonic and Mario cancel each other out, then neither is a killer app.

geise · 07/06/2016, 02:09 PM

Quote from: guest on 07/06/2016, 01:34 PMCanceling out games is only what console war fans do. Why not play all the good 16-bit games? If Sonic and Mario cancel each other out, then neither is a killer app.

I just don't think Robo Aleste is a good game. I owned the Sega CD around the same time I got my Duo back in the day. I enjoyed both, just the Duo a lot more.

Otaking · 07/06/2016, 03:38 PM

I've always maintained that Spriggan is a far superior game to Musha Aleste let alone Robo Aleste.
Spriggan is an absolute masterpiece, those other two are average at best.

JoshTurboTrollX · 07/06/2016, 03:42 PM

My vote goes to Sega CD. See!?

Gypsy · 07/06/2016, 03:47 PM

Quote from: Otaking on 07/06/2016, 03:38 PMI've always maintained that Spriggan is a far superior game to Musha Aleste let alone Robo Aleste.
Spriggan is an absolute masterpiece, those other two are average at best.

YES.

Anyway, I'm not really adding anything here but yeah it's PCE CD by a mile. The Sega CD library pales in comparison.

CrackTiger · 07/06/2016, 03:51 PM

I've never liked Musha, ever since renting it and playing through a couple times when it first came out. Just like Sylphia, few people cared about it for years until collectards heard that Complie might be involved. Then it instantly became an uber rare and legendary game. Robo Aleste is more interesting. I still like Musha more than a lot of games because it's still a decent game and a shooter, but I just find it boring.

Gentlegamer · 07/06/2016, 03:54 PM

Choosing FEKA CD auto-bans your account.

Gypsy · 07/06/2016, 03:55 PM

Quote from: guest on 07/06/2016, 03:51 PMI've never liked Musha, ever since renting it and playing through a couple times when it first came out. Just like Sylphia, few people cared about it for years until collectards heard that Complie might be involved. Then it instantly became an uber rare and legendary game. Robo Aleste is more interesting. I still like Musha more than a lot of games because it's still a decent game and a shooter, but I just find it boring.

Games aren't fun until they are rare and collectible obviously.

Sarumaru · 07/06/2016, 07:34 PM

This thread should have just been called "PCE/TGCD was better, do you agree?". Because obvs

TR0N · 07/06/2016, 09:07 PM

Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 07/06/2016, 03:42 PMMy vote goes to Sega CD. See!?

No problem if it was for the ost on ecco the dolphin i can understand

xcrement5x · 07/07/2016, 02:09 PM

I have seen iterations of this thread many times and I'll say what I always do:

In terms of US only releases, I feel like the SegaCD has a better library.

But in terms of a global or even Japananese only market, the PCE CD family is the clear leader.

In Japan the MegaDrive was nowhere near as popular, and the devs and amount of money and time spent on producing titles for it pales in comparison to what was put into the PCE CD. I love them both and play and collect for them both, and both have some excellent exclusive titles too.

TurboXray · 07/07/2016, 04:31 PM

SegaCD is like that one time you got a random hookup in college, and they were super cute, but the sex wasn't much to write about. You still think about it from time to time; a strange mixture of disappointment and admiration (she was super cute).

Gredler · 07/07/2016, 04:50 PM

This thread is the pcefx thread equivalent of a rhetorical question asked by a musician during a concert.

"Any metal fans here tonight?"

"Are you ready to rock?"

"I can't hear you!"

"Hey PCEfx forum, is the PCE better than FEKA?!"

*Crowd roads incoherently*

Psycho Punch · 07/07/2016, 10:31 PM

pretty much

kosko99 · 07/08/2016, 02:30 AM

I recently bought a Sega CD and if we are talking about catalogue only I'd say TurboCD wins (imho).
Sometimes I got troubles to pick a game to play on the NEC console because I couldn't decide on so many games to try. On the other hand, when seeing the Sega CD games I had troubles to pick a "non meh" game... sega got few good CD games like Sonic, Final Fight, Shining Force and such, but as for the rest ugh...

spenoza · 07/08/2016, 02:10 PM

Better is such a loaded word... Technically, the Sega Genny + CD is extremely powerful and should crush the competition hands-down (with the exception of more limited color reproduction). But the catalog is kind of a dog. There are some good titles, but not enough. The PCE CD catalog is so much stronger it's not even a fair fight. Technical specs don't mean a damn thing if they aren't used to good purposes. And two of the better Sega CD games are lackluster SuperCD ports (I guess Dungeon Explorer is different enough it might not be a straight port?).

esteban · 07/09/2016, 12:22 AM

Quote from: guest on 07/08/2016, 02:10 PMBetter is such a loaded word... Technically, the Sega Genny + CD is extremely powerful and should crush the competition hands-down (with the exception of more limited color reproduction). But the catalog is kind of a dog. There are some good titles, but not enough. The PCE CD catalog is so much stronger it's not even a fair fight. Technical specs don't mean a damn thing if they aren't used to good purposes. And two of the better Sega CD games are lackluster SuperCD ports (I guess Dungeon Explorer is different enough it might not be a straight port?).

Dungeon Explorer on Sega CD...is just a different sort of game. It's OK, I suppose (I haven't really been excited by it), but it certainly is not awesomely fun like the PCE Dungeon Explorer.

Overall, the Sega/Mega-CD library just isn't as interesting to me as the PCE.

TurboXray · 07/09/2016, 02:45 AM

Baked potatoes are loaded. Better is subjective and applicable at the same time.

crazydean · 07/09/2016, 04:13 PM

I just bought a US Sega-CD. I haven't had much time to play it, but the load times are way faster than my PCE Duo. Is this typical?