NES classic

[seieienbu]

Call me a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist if you must, but I think Nintendo intentionally made too few because they didn't want people to buy them.  Instead, I think the whole thing was a viral marketing ploy for their Switch.  They don't make enough but remind the gaming public how much they like (liked) Nintendo.

The "They don't make enough" part is so that the casual consumer won't buy a single NES with 30 games and then call it a day for their gaming budget for the next year or whatever but instead are essentially forced into buying a Switch if they want to get some of that sweet Nintendo gaming. 

I seriously don't like Nintendo as a company anymore.  Yeah, some of their games are still games that I want to play but I hate the idea of me giving them my money.  I haven't felt satisfied with a Nintendo system since the SNES.  Now this happens; I don't even want the stupid thing for myself as I'm good on NES games.  I couldn't get one as a Christmas present and I'm still trying to get one now.  I've waited in lines, I've tried to buy online, I've used brickseek online to try to get one and I still have nothing to show for it.  The one time I saw one just sitting in a store for sale it was marked up to over double the MSRP.  Way to drop the ball on consumers, Nintendo.

[SignOfZeta]

You're imagining things. There's way too much testosterone in your gaming world view.

[Groover]

Nintendo is no longer shipping NES Classics. If you still want one good luck.

[Dicer]

Nintendo is no longer shipping NES Classics. If you still want one good luck.

All desire went away when scalpers went batshit with it, rather build a pi with a case of my own choosing...

[Groover]

Play Asia is still selling the Famicom version for $99. not bad considering it has two controllers and it is an import. This is tempting for me.

[elmer]

Call me a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist if you must, but I think Nintendo intentionally made too few because they didn't want people to buy them.  Instead, I think the whole thing was a viral marketing ploy for their Switch.  They don't make enough but remind the gaming public how much they like (liked) Nintendo.

Call me a cynic ... but I think very differently.

I think that the Switch wasn't going to be ready for Christmas, and they needed something to sell and keep them in the spotlight after the awful Wii-U debacle.

So they made as many NES Classics as they thought that they could sell, and they were surprised by the demand.

Now that the Switch is out and getting positive response, they want that to be their talked-about-and-purchased system over the Summer, and into the Christmas run up, with no distractions from anything else.

Did anymore see the press release?

"Throughout April, NOA territories will receive the last shipments of Nintendo Entertainment System: NES Classic Edition systems for this year."

Now that Nintendo are sure that their fanbase will lap these up, I fully-expect that there will be an "NES Classic II" next year, or the year-after, when the Switch has cemented or failed-to-cement its place in customer's hearts.

Then exactly-the-same collectards will go out and buy that, and maybe they'll make enough-extra for everyone else.

[SignOfZeta]

Re: bitches.

1: you can't seriously expect them to keep making the thing as-is now that it's been cracked.

2: please try to understand that just because you want something...that's just part of getting it. Nintendo products are INSANE popular. To produce enough units of anything they make to satisfy ALL THE WHINY BITCHES and saturate the eBay scalper market to the point of pointlessness they would need to contract assloads more factories to make thing, whatever thing it is. Each one is a security risk, and none of them have any reason to be loyal to Nintendo because when demand drops off %90 after two months (because, keep in mind, to please fanboys, EVERYONE now has one) the contract will be over. This is how XBoxes and PlayStations are made. These machines lose crazy money for their OEMs because if it (and other reasons). Nintendo is not the maker of the worlds most popular OS or a giant movie studio. They don't get royalties for thousands of patents. They don't run an ad service. They don't get revenue from lasers and credit card technology and all the shit in Sony/MS's portfolio. They are a video game company, they need to make money off video games, and they managed to (usually) do that even while charging less than the competition.

People who have never busted their ass for years on a product, IMO, have a lot less right to complain about people who do. Maybe not roads and hospitals and food, but children's toys? Yeah, please shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up about how one of the OEMs in this floundering industry has found a way to stay profitable with a Christmas toy that costs less than a single LE Vita game. Please. Please shut the fuck right up.

For the record, I'm still looking for one...still have never seen a single unit in person. Still not mad about it. If it weren't for the box collectors and the eBay-employed I'd have one.

[TheClash603]

I am shocked that with 1.5 million sold, this is still a rare item selling at 6x retail.

F5 was my friend the last time Best Buy had them online at least.

I still wish Nintendo launched this at $100 with two controllers.  Seems like it would've still sold out, but prevented the flippers due to added cost.

[CGQuarterly]

1: you can't seriously expect them to keep making the thing as-is now that it's been cracked.

The Wii was cracked.  Same with every iteration of the DS.

If it weren't for the box collectors and the eBay-employed I'd have one.

That's the sad truth, right there.

[Psycho Punch]

People who have never busted their ass for years on a product, IMO, have a lot less right to complain about people who do.

Ahh the classic appeal to accomplishment fallacy.

[TheClash603]

Famicom Mini has also been temporarily cancelled.  The system is available on Amazon for under $100 shipped still and is likely everyone's best option at this point.

Pros:  Decent price still found and two controllers.

Cons:  Hardwired controllers are small and cords are short.  For non Japanese speakers the RPGs are wasted games.

[Dicer]

Famicom Mini has also been temporarily cancelled.  The system is available on Amazon for under $100 shipped still and is likely everyone's best option at this point.

Pros:  Decent price still found and two controllers.

Cons:  Hardwired controllers are small and cords are short.  For non Japanese speakers the RPGs are wasted games.

Is it as hackable as it's US counterpart?

[Medic_wheat]

Famicom Mini has also been temporarily cancelled.  The system is available on Amazon for under $100 shipped still and is likely everyone's best option at this point.

Pros:  Decent price still found and two controllers.

Cons:  Hardwired controllers are small and cords are short.  For non Japanese speakers the RPGs are wasted games.

I want to say yes
Is it as hackable as it's US counterpart?

[Warbucks]

Luckily I was able to pick up a NES Classic yesterday at Walmart.
3 came in, I was with 2 friends we each got one.  It was perfect.
I have been on the lookout since the release day, and this was the 1st time I have actually seen it in stock. This bad boy will be going in my younger son's room, he has been dying for a system to be in there.

They are still out there.  Keep checking

[Medic_wheat]

Luckily I was able to pick up a NES Classic yesterday at Walmart.
3 came in, I was with 2 friends we each got one.  It was perfect.
I have been on the lookout since the release day, and this was the 1st time I have actually seen it in stock. This bad boy will be going in my younger son's room, he has been dying for a system to be in there.

They are still out there.  Keep checking

And this to me is what this system was meant for.

A cheap functional accessible system to expose younger and d gamers to 8 bit fun.

[cr8zykuban0]

Although it can be a good way for the newer generation to play the awesome nintendo games of the past, i think its ridiculous that people were flipping these for like $200+  when you can buy a real nes with an everdrive for around the same price and have all the games avaliable instead of only 30. A cool concept but too many flippers involved in it and made me uninterested

[crazydean]

Although it can be a good way for the newer generation to play the awesome nintendo games of the past, i think its ridiculous that people were flipping these for like $200+  when you can buy a real nes with an everdrive for around the same price and have all the games avaliable instead of only 30. A cool concept but too many flippers involved in it and made me uninterested

There's also the obvious solution of a cheaper and more versatile raspberry pi.

[CGQuarterly]

The general population isn't going to mess around with a RetroPie.  Those are for hobbyists/enthusiasts.

[SignOfZeta]

People who have never busted their ass for years on a product, IMO, have a lot less right to complain about people who do.

Ahh the classic appeal to accomplishment fallacy.

Accomplishment is no fallacy. People who have done shit really are different from armchair CEO fanboys with zero experience in anything. If you've worked at banks or retail or some other useless shit all your live you'll never know this though. It's kind of impossible to see the other side of the fence...

[crazydean]

The general population isn't going to mess around with a RetroPie.  Those are for hobbyists/enthusiasts.

Agreed, but the people bitching about the costs could easily buy a pi online that already has everything on it.

Also, if the people on gaming forums aren't "enthusiasts" then i don't know who is.

[SignOfZeta]

It's true. There are multiple paths to the enlightenment that is owning a NES clone. They don't play the same, but they do sit unused in a box the same so that's a path for certain people.

[SignOfZeta]

1: you can't seriously expect them to keep making the thing as-is now that it's been cracked.

The Wii was cracked.  Same with every iteration of the DS.

If it weren't for the box collectors and the eBay-employed I'd have one.

That's the sad truth, right there.

The Wii and DS were cracked. They were also replaced with multiple hardware iterations and aided mandatory software updates. The NES Classic cannot be updated (officially) and I'd be surprised if they didn't make a new version.

[Psycho Punch]

People who have never busted their ass for years on a product, IMO, have a lot less right to complain about people who do.

Ahh the classic appeal to accomplishment fallacy.

Accomplishment is no fallacy. People who have done shit really are different from armchair CEO fanboys with zero experience in anything. If you've worked at banks or retail or some other useless shit all your live you'll never know this though. It's kind of impossible to see the other side of the fence...

Fair enough, I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, I don't really get why you're labeling people expressing their frustration with Nintendo's product strategy as "fanboys" though.

[Medic_wheat]

Allow me to summerize my thoughts in the deadlines reporting the NES Classic being discontinued.


Fake Gamer News.

Please alert me when the Mother of all Nindendos becomes a thing.

[Johnpv]

I think the shitty thing is how NoA kept saying they were going to make more to meet demand and then with this press release they said it was always meant to be a limited release.  At least be more upfront about that.  It sucks for people still trying to get one, though for enthusiasts there's a lot of other options.

[esadajr]

Nintendo is no longer shipping NES Classics. If you still want one good luck.

All desire went away when scalpers went batshit with it, rather build a pi with a case of my own choosing...

That. It had the effect of folks talking too much about the Pi.

[NecroPhile]

Fair enough, I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, I don't really get why you're labeling people expressing their frustration with Nintendo's product strategy as "fanboys" though.

It's simple: in Zeta's mind, Nintendo is always right.  You either do things their way or you lose money hand over fist.

[esteban]

I think the shitty thing is how NoA kept saying they were going to make more to meet demand and then with this press release they said it was always meant to be a limited release.  At least be more upfront about that.  It sucks for people still trying to get one, though for enthusiasts there's a lot of other options.

Yeah, even though I don't need one, I still wanted to get one for the novelty of it. Plus, I could leave it with my kids and not worry about it.

I would have tried harder to order it online if I knew it would be discontinued.

I only tried twice, at the height of the insanity, and then decided I could wait.

Ha!

[DragonmasterDan]

Yeah, even though I don't need one, I still wanted to get one for the novelty of it. Plus, I could leave it with my kids and not worry about it.

I would have tried harder to order it online if I knew it would be discontinued.

I only tried twice, at the height of the insanity, and then decided I could wait.

Ha!

Now you're waiting for a new version specifically for "Princess Tomato and the Salad Kingdom"

[esteban]

Yeah, even though I don't need one, I still wanted to get one for the novelty of it. Plus, I could leave it with my kids and not worry about it.

I would have tried harder to order it online if I knew it would be discontinued.

I only tried twice, at the height of the insanity, and then decided I could wait.

Ha!

Now you're waiting for a new version specifically for "Princess Tomato and the Salad Kingdom"

Indeed.

[ChuChu Flamingo]

Other than the novelty of owning one, im not really sad. Nintendo is literally pants on head retarded for discontinuing it and enabling these scalpers.

[bob]

Other than the novelty of owning one, im not really sad. Nintendo is literally pants on head retarded for discontinuing it and enabling these scalpers.

my brother is pants-on-head retarded and he takes offense to your post.

[cr8zykuban0]

Discontinuing it means the flippers and scalpers win. Nintendo is losing a lot of potential money and sales , if they would have met demands and produced more of these, they would have sold well.

I guess they dont want to make money lol

[TR0N]

Nintendo must hate making money.Unless there really paranoid it will cut into the vc for the switch on it's release.I wanted one for novelty sake but at this point i doubt i can find it at retail.Oh well,have a famicom av all ready and a collection of games so i'm set.

[SignOfZeta]

Fair enough, I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, I don't really get why you're labeling people expressing their frustration with Nintendo's product strategy as "fanboys" though.

It's simple: in Zeta's mind, Nintendo is always right.  You either do things their way or you lose money hand over fist.

If that's as deep into what I'm saying as you can see...I guess you still get the point. Be it wisdom or belligerence, Nintendo has lost many many billions less than Sony and MS have in the last 15 years since Sega died and they didn't do this by just listening to Twitter feedback and fat fucks on YouTube. The success of the NES Classic is something MS and Sony would gladly enjoy but never could: a highly profitable well engineered yet sub-$100 item sells way beyond expectations, the entire project going from announcement to completion in less than a year.

I'm not saying they are always right. Painting me a loyal to any billion dollar corporation shows your willful missing of my point, as you have been doing here...since before Sega died. I'm not shitting on fanboys because say something contrary to Nintendo, I'm shitting on them because they say something counter to their own level of expertise which is usually zero.

If anyone here ACTUALLY MAKES SOMETHING then their standing increased significantly. People who live off eBay, work in food service, cops, lawyers,  bankers, the IT crowd, clerks, clergy, etc...I don't tell them how to make sales quotas so it's annoying to hear them pretend they know how to make a video game when an existing one doesn't meet every one of their criteria.

Obviously Elmer, Arkhan, Old Rover, Nightwolve, etc have significantly more standing since they have a greater understanding of what this kind of work is, although obviously that's very far removed. People who make anything are rare in the US nowadays but they do exist and those aren't the people who have done the most complaining from what I've seen. Mostly it's a bunch of no-nothing losers who couldn't even draw a picture of the NES Classsic let alone design one.

It's like the guy who loves to say "I told you so." except he didn't and he wasn't right about anything anything anyway. He's just fucking annoying.

Have you ever tested a prototype of something for a year only to have the project canceled because another design turned out to be a better idea? Have you ever worked on a project for five years and then see it tank because a supplier fucked up a minor part? Ever seen your sales reduced by a more popular but ultimately shittier competitor's product because of the price? Do you work in product certification and safety? Those are people with insight. If you had to shove your boss at 7-11 because you needed to get fired so you could go to the Gathering of the Juggaloes and now it's going to suck because you planned on having a NES classic in your meth tent, then please just fuck the fuck off.

[esadajr]

Discontinuing it means the flippers and scalpers win. Nintendo is losing a lot of potential money and sales , if they would have met demands and produced more of these, they would have sold well.

I guess they dont want to make money lol

They could have sold a 100 million units easily but didn't want to. Baffles me.

Let's see who has the last laugh, when the holiday season comes.

[technozombie]

Fair enough, I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, I don't really get why you're labeling people expressing their frustration with Nintendo's product strategy as "fanboys" though.

It's simple: in Zeta's mind, Nintendo is always right.  You either do things their way or you lose money hand over fist.

If that's as deep into what I'm saying as you can see...I guess you still get the point. Be it wisdom or belligerence, Nintendo has lost many many billions less than Sony and MS have in the last 15 years since Sega died and they didn't do this by just listening to Twitter feedback and fat fucks on YouTube. The success of the NES Classic is something MS and Sony would gladly enjoy but never could: a highly profitable well engineered yet sub-$100 item sells way beyond expectations, the entire project going from announcement to completion in less than a year.

I'm not saying they are always right. Painting me a loyal to any billion dollar corporation shows your willful missing of my point, as you have been doing here...since before Sega died. I'm not shitting on fanboys because say something contrary to Nintendo, I'm shitting on them because they say something counter to their own level of expertise which is usually zero.

If anyone here ACTUALLY MAKES SOMETHING then their standing increased significantly. People who live off eBay, work in food service, cops, lawyers,  bankers, the IT crowd, clerks, clergy, etc...I don't tell them how to make sales quotas so it's annoying to hear them pretend they know how to make a video game when an existing one doesn't meet every one of their criteria.

Obviously Elmer, Arkhan, Old Rover, Nightwolve, etc have significantly more standing since they have a greater understanding of what this kind of work is, although obviously that's very far removed. People who make anything are rare in the US nowadays but they do exist and those aren't the people who have done the most complaining from what I've seen. Mostly it's a bunch of no-nothing losers who couldn't even draw a picture of the NES Classsic let alone design one.

It's like the guy who loves to say "I told you so." except he didn't and he wasn't right about anything anything anyway. He's just fucking annoying.

Have you ever tested a prototype of something for a year only to have the project canceled because another design turned out to be a better idea? Have you ever worked on a project for five years and then see it tank because a supplier fucked up a minor part? Ever seen your sales reduced by a more popular but ultimately shittier competitor's product because of the price? Do you work in product certification and safety? Those are people with insight. If you had to shove your boss at 7-11 because you needed to get fired so you could go to the Gathering of the Juggaloes and now it's going to suck because you planned on having a NES classic in your meth tent, then please just fuck the fuck off.

Sorry,  but I'm  not getting your argument either.  The engineering, coding, and production  facilities are already  in place.  Nintendo would literally make more profit the more units they sale since they've  already put the work in on the front-end.  A slow trickle would prevent over producing, and they could curtail production as demand begins to diminish. Nintendo obviously has their reasons,  but this is definitely  a bad public image move. My guess is that they are ending production  because of an impending virtual console on the Switch.

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[Johnpv]

Sorry,  but I'm  not getting your argument either.  The engineering, coding, and production  facilities are already  in place. 

Not necessarily.  Obviously Nintendo doesn't actually own any factories of their own, and it's possible that the facilities that could make one are all booked already making other products.  I also wouldn't doubt that given the chance to buy time at a factory to make this or make more Switches, they're probably going to go with the Switch, which will make them way more money in the long run.  I'm not saying they should discontinue this, but it's not as easy as calling the factory and saying make more!  It is often that time at these facilities are bought months ahead of time, and by the time any of them opened up Nintendo felt it was in their best interest to buy that time for the Switch instead.  Plus as you said Switch VC is probably coming soon, and it would be hard to sell NES titles for 5 bucks a pop when you can buy a machine with 30 of them, containing many of the most popular titles for 60 bucks. 

Again it sucks for folks who want one, but in some ways I can see why they've done it.  I also think the ease at which it was hacked probably turned them off to the product.  Yes everything ends up hackable, but this thing is stupidly easy to hack.  I don't know anyone who bought one (in person) who didn't hack there's.

[NecroPhile]

If that's as deep into what I'm saying as you can see...

It's the crux of your argument: Nintendo makes money off games and nobody else does, ergo nobody is allowed to say anything negative about Nintendo.  It's the same Nintendo fanboy bullshit your spew every time they're questioned or criticized.

[DragonmasterDan]

I stand by the expectation that some sort of re-designed model with a few more games and no mini USB port for easy soft modding will be available in the Fall. Say one that looks like the NES top loader, adds 10 or so games no one wants (Pinball, Urban Champion, Baseball) a second controller and suddenly sells for 79.99 instead of the original 59.99 so the profit margins are wider for the premium of an extra controller and a few more games.

[bob]

... pointless rant

you're lonely, we get it.  it must be nice living in your isolated bubble of generalized, world perception.
nobody would paint you a loyalist to billion dollar corporations, because we all know zeta only likes things that are in the back of black and white 90's fanzines.  Whats the number then?  $1500 in revenue for a year?  Over that and you dont like it anymore?  Somebody 30 miles away from you got wind of it and now it's corrupt with fake, over-enthusiastic kids with pierced eyebrows and tamagotchi keychains?
its obvious you cant possibly mean (or even believe) half the stuff you say.
i actually had a friend just like you growing up.  had to always have a different "view" pulled out of thin air to show they dont conform to coca-cola and Ford.  its an exhausting life style, i know because he drank himself to death. (true story)  Like you, he also enjoyed creating bleeps and bloops on a casio keyboard.  thats right HE CREATED SOMETHING.  FUCK HE'S ELITE!  DEAD, BUT ELITE!  worth so much more than people who support families by doing those "useless" jobs that surprise surprise, can pay quite well.  but i digress, point being, everybody, if you didnt create a PCE game, you cant complain that starbucks got your order wrong.

also, what the fuck clergyman is telling you how to make video games?
and what sales quotas does the IT crowd have? 

(and yes, i jumped around on purpose so zeets could follow it)

[Digi.k]

Other than the novelty of owning one, im not really sad. Nintendo is literally pants on head retarded for discontinuing it and enabling these scalpers.

I was silly enough to cancel my pre order thinking the raspberry pi would suffice.


there might be a reason why nintendo have discontinued it..

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-04-19-sources-nintendo-to-launch-snes-mini-this-year


 Nintendo will follow up its smash hit NES microconsole with a mini version of the SNES, sources close to the company have confirmed to Eurogamer.


The SNES mini (or, to continue Nintendo's official branding, likely the Nintendo Classic Mini: Super Nintendo Entertainment System) is currently scheduled to launch in time for Christmas this year. Development of the device is already under way, our sources have indicated.

Nintendo's plans for SNES mini are also a major reason why last year's NES mini did not see a reprieve from discontinuation, Eurogamer understands, despite the latter's continued popularity and sell-out status.

Last week, Nintendo explained that it never intended NES mini to be a permanent product. From the company's perspective, the microconsole was planned as a cool novelty item perfect for Christmas 2016, and the numbers in which it was manufactured and shipped were expected to be enough to suit this goal.

But NES mini ended up breaking out to become more popular than anticipated and quickly sold out, leading to a bustling resale market on eBay. NES mini shipments continued into the early part of this year, but its production run could not be extended further - as SNES mini was slated for production instead.

Hopefully, more stock of the SNES mini will be made available to avoid a repeat of the same shortages.

[TheClash603]

I stand by the expectation that some sort of re-designed model with a few more games and no mini USB port for easy soft modding will be available in the Fall. Say one that looks like the NES top loader, adds 10 or so games no one wants (Pinball, Urban Champion, Baseball) a second controller and suddenly sells for 79.99 instead of the original 59.99 so the profit margins are wider for the premium of an extra controller and a few more games.

You got it spot on.  You don't say you are stopping shipments THIS YEAR in a press release, if you don't mean more to come next year.

As someone else stated, manufacturing contracts in Asia need to be booked well in advance.  I spoke to a guy who owns a business and he says he always knows next year's sales numbers, because he is a manufacturer that builds to orders and it takes him 6-12 months to lock down his Asian supply chain.  I am sure Nintendo has more clout than this guy's small company, but they are also orderin something more complex and much more of them.  Round two of this product line is on its way in 2018.

[seieienbu]

I think Nintendo is kicking themselves for selling it at only $60 and that's a contributing factor for the premature cancellation of the NES mini.  I'll be shocked if the SNES mini costs the same.

[DragonmasterDan]

I think Nintendo is kicking themselves for selling it at only $60 and that's a contributing factor for the premature cancellation of the NES mini.  I'll be shocked if the SNES mini costs the same.

Like I said, or a redesigned version with an extra controller and a slightly different configuration of games that is 20.00 more to up their margins on it.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I like how people are shitting their tits like they missed out on something marvelous now that it's discontinued.

buy an NES and an everdrive.   JFC.

[Gredler]

I like how people are shitting their tits like they missed out on something marvelous now that it's discontinued.

buy an NES and an everdrive.   JFC.

Laptop>NES Classic, I tend to agree.

[Medic_wheat]

I like how people are shitting their tits like they missed out on something marvelous now that it's discontinued.

buy an NES and an everdrive.   JFC.

I have put off buying a NES everdrive. Might as well pull the trigger I don't think there can be any more improvements.

As for the SNES everdrive is it finally 100% rom comparable or still room for imrpovmemt?

[Sarumaru]

Oh noes~ NES-shaped emulator is no longer being made.. how will we emulate games now?? HOW!?






...i wish i had a meth tent

[Strider77]

Who new cancer had shortages? Nintendo knew all along...