RetroBlox : Another new Play-Everything "Retro" Console

[NecroPhile]

DK only agrees with me because I'm a moderator.  He always agrees with me.

:derpcat:

[DildoKKKobold]

@DK I think you're showing exactly the kind of qualities that it takes to be a moderator -- which speaks exactly to my only real point in participating in this discussion. When the moderator is no longer mediating the discussion and is choosing a side, whats left? Your words are markedly clearer and more fair, while you still have an opinion of the subject at hand.

Um, you said it yourself, he's a moderator not a mediator. His job is only to prevent things from spiraling out of control, not to serve as an impartial referee. Necro's totally entitled to his opinion, and his foul-mouthed way of expressing it. I'd suggest dropping your feud with him, as your job (as a PR person) is to make Polymega look great.

Now, granted, you didn't ask for that video to be posted here, but it got posted. So, your best option isn't to get into a battle over what a moderator's responsibilities are, but instead to say something akin to:

"Hi everyone,

That video was posted to our personal blog so that those interested in following our progress can be kept up to date. We understand the concerns that we came out of the PR gate too early and to fast. We also understand everyone's cynicism. Seeing debacles like the Retron 5 stealing emulator code, and the fraudulent creations by the RetroVGS/ColecoChameleon left a bad taste in everyone's mouth. We hope, in the coming months, as we make more progress, we will be able to overcome this cynicism by providing real high quality demos. Those who are interested can continue to follow us at *address*. Those who are skeptical, we hope that we will change your mind when the time is right and we have a product ready. In the mean time, we appreciate your patience, and look forward to surprising you with our wonderful product. I personally believe everyone will love it.

Thank you, from everyone involved in the PolyMega Team."


The problem is, you haven't done that, and continue to not do that. Instead, you debate the merits of a moderator having an opinion.

[dangdang]

youre looking at this all wrong.  just because NecroPhile is a mod doesnt mean that anyone takes his opinion around here any more seriously than the next guy's.  in fact, no one really cares about anyone's opinion around here other than their own  .  we're mostly middle-aged dad-types who are pretty set on our ways.  stick around for a while and you'll be just as crusty as the rest of us.

I totally understand the fraternal dad-vibe you're talking about, but let me provide a counterpoint from the perspective of a hypothetical new member of the forum.

As easy as it was for him to criticize the operational matters of my company, it was just as easy for me to volley complaints against him related to my perception of his quality as a moderator. Nobody got anywhere with either argument since neither of us were *actually* qualified to make such arguments -- he doesn't run a company making a game console, and I'm not a forum moderator. The only difference is that here on PCEFX, he is a known quantity in possession of a ban hammer, and I being Jerry Jelly, am an unknown. Were I not to disclose that I actually work on the project, I would have been instantly crushed by him and others backing him up, which nearly happened after my first post when someone said I was derailing the topic, which I assume to be coded language for "ban this guy".

Regardless of whether what he said was true or not, Jerry Jelly will lose 100% of the time in this situation if a defense is made or equal eye is taken in response to the mod. I'm fine taking that shot, because in the end I'm well enough known outside of PCEFX that I can substantiate an argument with a mod here, but anyone who isn't, and is really just a guy who is excited about the system (or whatever the argument is at hand), is basically DOA. So, if you aren't a long time poster I can't imagine how someone would ever make an argument in response without getting massively ganged up on.

Normally the moderator would do their job and make sure both sides can be heard - which was only done in this instance by DK. Therein lies the issue I've been railing on about and why, yes, I think mods here should demote themselves before deciding to make inflammatory remarks, at least on the forum which they run. Elsewhere, go for it.

[TheClash603]

@DK I think you're showing exactly the kind of qualities that it takes to be a moderator -- which speaks exactly to my only real point in participating in this discussion. When the moderator is no longer mediating the discussion and is choosing a side, whats left? Your words are markedly clearer and more fair, while you still have an opinion of the subject at hand.

Um, you said it yourself, he's a moderator not a mediator. His job is only to prevent things from spiraling out of control, not to serve as an impartial referee. Necro's totally entitled to his opinion, and his foul-mouthed way of expressing it. I'd suggest dropping your feud with him, as your job (as a PR person) is to make Polymega look great.

Now, granted, you didn't ask for that video to be posted here, but it got posted. So, your best option isn't to get into a battle over what a moderator's responsibilities are, but instead to say something akin to:

"Hi everyone,

That video was posted to our personal blog so that those interested in following our progress can be kept up to date. We understand the concerns that we came out of the PR gate too early and to fast. We also understand everyone's cynicism. Seeing debacles like the Retron 5 stealing emulator code, and the fraudulent creations by the RetroVGS/ColecoChameleon left a bad taste in everyone's mouth. We hope, in the coming months, as we make more progress, we will be able to overcome this cynicism by providing real high quality demos. Those who are interested can continue to follow us at *address*. Those who are skeptical, we hope that we will change your mind when the time is right and we have a product ready. In the mean time, we appreciate your patience, and look forward to surprising you with our wonderful product. I personally believe everyone will love it.

Thank you, from everyone involved in the PolyMega Team."


The problem is, you haven't done that, and continue to not do that. Instead, you debate the merits of a moderator having an opinion.

+1

[dangdang]

@DK I think you're showing exactly the kind of qualities that it takes to be a moderator -- which speaks exactly to my only real point in participating in this discussion. When the moderator is no longer mediating the discussion and is choosing a side, whats left? Your words are markedly clearer and more fair, while you still have an opinion of the subject at hand.

Um, you said it yourself, he's a moderator not a mediator. His job is only to prevent things from spiraling out of control, not to serve as an impartial referee. Necro's totally entitled to his opinion, and his foul-mouthed way of expressing it. I'd suggest dropping your feud with him, as your job (as a PR person) is to make Polymega look great.

Now, granted, you didn't ask for that video to be posted here, but it got posted. So, your best option isn't to get into a battle over what a moderator's responsibilities are, but instead to say something akin to:

"Hi everyone,

That video was posted to our personal blog so that those interested in following our progress can be kept up to date. We understand the concerns that we came out of the PR gate too early and to fast. We also understand everyone's cynicism. Seeing debacles like the Retron 5 stealing emulator code, and the fraudulent creations by the RetroVGS/ColecoChameleon left a bad taste in everyone's mouth. We hope, in the coming months, as we make more progress, we will be able to overcome this cynicism by providing real high quality demos. Those who are interested can continue to follow us at *address*. Those who are skeptical, we hope that we will change your mind when the time is right and we have a product ready. In the mean time, we appreciate your patience, and look forward to surprising you with our wonderful product. I personally believe everyone will love it.

Thank you, from everyone involved in the PolyMega Team."


The problem is, you haven't done that, and continue to not do that. Instead, you debate the merits of a moderator having an opinion.

As a forum member, my opinion of how a forum moderator should act isn't going to change.

Speaking as the head of the project, the time for polite lip service and apologizing for other peoples failed projects passed long ago. We're far beyond that. Instead, I'd rather just extend beta invitations to people who are interested in testing the new PCE/TG16 emulator and Polymega's user interface. So, if you're actively following this thread right now and are interested, the first 5 people to PM me will get an invite.

[DildoKKKobold]

Speaking as the head of the project, the time for polite lip service and apologizing for other peoples failed projects passed long ago.

No, no it hasn't. As a business man, your #1 goal should be to put your personal opinions aside, and do what is best for your team and company. Every company, even the 128 year old Nintendo, worries about PR. You've not even got a product to market, getting arrogant and alienating your potential user base just hurts sales.

You aren't just a forum member now, you are freaking representative of a product you are hoping to sell to the very users of this forum. Act like it.

[dangdang]

Speaking as the head of the project, the time for polite lip service and apologizing for other peoples failed projects passed long ago.

No, no it hasn't. As a business man, your #1 goal should be to put your personal opinions aside, and do what is best for your team and company. Every company, even the 128 year old Nintendo, worries about PR. You've not even got a product to market, getting arrogant and alienating your potential user base just hurts sales.

You aren't just a forum member now, you are freaking representative of a product you are hoping to sell to the very users of this forum. Act like it.

To anyone following this project, the Coleco Chameleon, Retron 5, RetroFreak et all very clearly poisoned the well for classic game console projects and people who play them. They screwed a lot of things up and a lot of people over. But, that doesn't mean that every project is as they were. For people who got burned in some form, we've been working tirelessly to not fall prey to the same issues.

The video that was posted in the group earlier was posted on our website to show that we do have a hardware team and that we are still actively developing the project, despite some speculation that it had stalled. More demonstrations indicative of this should be expected very soon. We are serious about making something that is not only "not a failure" but something that is actually great and will bring everyone a significant amount of enjoyment for years to come.

We're not asking you to take our word for it at this point, instead we want to show the hard work we've put in by showing this product very soon with high quality demonstrations. We also promise we won't ask you for a dime until the console is ready, fully vetted, and for sale. Anyone who is interested in following us or keeping up to date on information can visit www.polymega.com for more information. You can also follow us on Twitter (@polymegahq) and Facebook (@playPOLYMEGA).

Thank you, from Team POLYMEGA

[mickcris]

As a forum member, my opinion of how a forum moderator should act isn't going to change.

Speaking as the head of the project, the time for polite lip service and apologizing for other peoples failed projects passed long ago. We're far beyond that. Instead, I'd rather just extend beta invitations to people who are interested in testing the new PCE/TG16 emulator and Polymega's user interface. So, if you're actively following this thread right now and are interested, the first 5 people to PM me will get an invite.

So this can just run on a computer.  no need for the hardware?

[dangdang]

As a forum member, my opinion of how a forum moderator should act isn't going to change.

Speaking as the head of the project, the time for polite lip service and apologizing for other peoples failed projects passed long ago. We're far beyond that. Instead, I'd rather just extend beta invitations to people who are interested in testing the new PCE/TG16 emulator and Polymega's user interface. So, if you're actively following this thread right now and are interested, the first 5 people to PM me will get an invite.

So this can just run on a computer.  no need for the hardware?

Yep, Polymega is a Linux computer and does not require the real hardware for basic emulation of installed games and running the user interface. One feature of Polymega, hybrid emulation, would require the use of the real hardware so that will not be tested here. That said, any Debian-Linux compatible computer that meets our minimum specifications will run the system software and "vanilla" aspect of the hybrid emulators for the purposes of installed game testing.

[Purple1308]

Can any one recommend them a thesaurus or give them one for this whole thing ?