Net Neutrality

seieienbu · 01/03/2018, 02:15 PM

If all the water companies have to have government intervention, then that doesn't leave any room for competition. We could have Coke deliver us beverages right now but we can't because the GOVERNMENT is overly regulating and crushing the small time water deliveryman entrepreneur.
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turboswimbz · 01/03/2018, 04:19 PM

Quote from: seieienbu on 01/03/2018, 02:15 PMIf all the water companies have to have government intervention, then that doesn't leave any room for competition. We could have Coke deliver us beverages right now but we can't because the GOVERNMENT is overly regulating and crushing the small time water deliveryman entrepreneur.

I have generally agreed with a lot of what you have said or understood it but, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make? ... Coke is a very large corporation. and What water company are you talking about? Water Utilities are also much different than a water deliveryman. Sorry I am sure I am missing something . . .

seieienbu · 01/03/2018, 04:50 PM

Oh, I'm being dumb and sarcastic. Yeah, that doesn't show up well over the internet. I think public utilities are great and I drink water out of a tap. I don't think that competition would make me enjoy water more or feel that I'm getting a better deal.

My big point is against the hypocrisy of claiming that competition favors the little guy. Coca Cola could afford to compete, sure, but a little guy probably can't.

turboswimbz · 01/03/2018, 05:46 PM

Quote from: seieienbu on 01/03/2018, 04:50 PMOh, I'm being dumb and sarcastic. Yeah, that doesn't show up well over the internet. I think public utilities are great and I drink water out of a tap. I don't think that competition would make me enjoy water more or feel that I'm getting a better deal.

My big point is against the hypocrisy of claiming that competition favors the little guy. Coca Cola could afford to compete, sure, but a little guy probably can't.

OH crap, sorry I read that totally from the totally wrong perspective.

](*,)Nevermind ... moving on

BigusSchmuck · 01/30/2018, 11:59 PM

This guy cracks me up. http://digg.com/video/fcc-net-neutrality-road-protest

esteban · 01/31/2018, 05:47 PM

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 01/30/2018, 11:59 PMThis guy cracks me up. http://digg.com/video/fcc-net-neutrality-road-protest

That was great.

BigusSchmuck · 02/15/2018, 08:57 PM

https://qz.com/1204956/net-neutrality-isnt-the-problem-its-the-internet-itself/
Interesting perspective, but my argument what's stopping people doing intranet things on their own?

NecroPhile · 02/16/2018, 09:40 AM

It's a dumb article that misses the point. Facebook, Google, Netflix, and Amazon do indeed dominate the internet, but there's nothing stopping me from using one of their many competitors; the point of net neutrality is that for many people there is only viable option for an ISP.

As for the intranet thing, what's the point? I don't hear anyone clamoring for a tiny local internet that only has things provided by and relevant to the local community; the greatest thing about the internet is that it gives you access to stuff you couldn't get before, not easily anyway. If I want to shop at the local store, I stop in and shop; if I want to know what my friends, family, and neighbors are up to, I talk to them.

BigusSchmuck · 02/16/2018, 09:43 PM

Quote from: guest on 02/16/2018, 09:40 AMIt's a dumb article that misses the point. Facebook, Google, Netflix, and Amazon do indeed dominate the internet, but there's nothing stopping me from using one of their many competitors; the point of net neutrality is that for many people there is only viable option for an ISP.

As for the intranet thing, what's the point? I don't hear anyone clamoring for a tiny local internet that only has things provided by and relevant to the local community; the greatest thing about the internet is that it gives you access to stuff you couldn't get before, not easily anyway. If I want to shop at the local store, I stop in and shop; if I want to know what my friends, family, and neighbors are up to, I talk to them.

Nailed it. I knew it was missing that something.

I will like to bring up I find it very interesting states are taking actions on creating their own net neutrality rules. I would move to Montana, but its way too cold for my tastes.
https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/22/montana-governor-executive-order-requires-net-neutrality/
I'm sure there will be more to follow.

seieienbu · 02/16/2018, 10:00 PM

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 06/25/1970, 02:59 PMI'm sure there will be more to follow.

I'll keep my fingers crossed.

NecroPhile · 02/19/2018, 10:10 AM

Nice! I like their end run around the FCC trying to stop states from enacting their own rules (because Trump and the rest of the DC GOP scum love state's rights... except when they don't) by making it a rule of government contracts and not a law for all ISPs.

BigusSchmuck · 02/26/2018, 09:58 AM

Hmmm. http://www.syracuse.com/us-news/index.ssf/2018/02/fcc_repeal_of_net_neutrality_rules_now_official_heres_what_happens_next.html
Hopefully something comes out of all this!