Validus

nat · 02/26/2008, 12:38 AM

I think Validus might be back. I assume all you guys got the message from guyjin.

Let's keep on eye on this "BonksRevenge" character. I'm fairly sure it is Validus, actually.

Keranu · 02/26/2008, 12:50 AM

Yeah it's gotta be Validus. I don't know if you got the response PM I sent to Guyjin (I received yours, nat), but Validus told me on AIM awhile ago that he would rejoin PCEFX as a girl.

PCEngineFX · 02/26/2008, 01:14 AM

I did some digging and did a IP trace on "BonksRevenge" compared to the IP I had on file for Validus and they match almost exactly. It is Validus.

So the question now is...what to do?

Joe Redifer · 02/26/2008, 01:40 AM

I'd personally ban him right away. Letting him be lets him believe (as well as others who can see he is Validus) that it is easy to dupe us with a phony membership. I'm not sure why he has such a hard on for all of us.

PCEngineFX · 02/26/2008, 01:42 AM

Good idea...plus I'm still pissed at him anyway.

Edit: Banned his IP from even hitting the site (again). We'll see how long he stays away this time.

Keranu · 02/26/2008, 05:38 AM

I really don't think the ban was necessary. He wasn't really doing anything wrong this time and I think we all sorta had fun pretending that BonksRevenge was a "new" person.

nat · 02/26/2008, 11:18 AM

Sorry Keranu, Joe is right.

He was just "playing" with us for the time being. We know his true colors. I'm sure he was laughing to himself every time he logged on, thinking he had us fooled.

I believe it only would have been a matter of time until he started acting up.

PCEngineFX · 02/26/2008, 11:42 AM

People were starting to catch on that it was him so things would have started to go bad sooner or later. I for one would rather stop the problem now than have to deal with it again.

nat · 02/26/2008, 01:42 PM

His profile says he was active at 6am today. Your message was dated last night.... You sure you got him?

PCEngineFX · 02/26/2008, 02:09 PM

Oh yah I got him. He's been trying to log into his account without success.

nat · 02/26/2008, 02:14 PM

Ah, OK, I guess it must update the "active" time when he attempts to login.

Keranu · 02/26/2008, 11:22 PM

Quote from: nat on 02/26/2008, 11:18 AMSorry Keranu, Joe is right.

He was just "playing" with us for the time being. We know his true colors. I'm sure he was laughing to himself every time he logged on, thinking he had us fooled.

I believe it only would have been a matter of time until he started acting up.

But we all knew he was playing with us and that was part of the fun! It was fun for us that he thought he might actually be fooling us

! At least this time around he learned his lesson and wasn't posting pics in every thread and such. I don't think he is looking for trouble this time around.

nat · 02/28/2008, 12:44 AM

I know this is not what everyone wants to hear, but Validus is back.

This time he's "WandererFromYs"

PCEngineFX · 02/28/2008, 12:55 AM

Are you serious Nat? I already looked and the IP doesn't even come close to what his previous logins were from....

nat · 02/28/2008, 12:58 AM

I'm pretty sure it's him. 4 or 5 other members have already PM'ed me with their suspicions. His posting pattern matches Validus/BonksRevenge exactly. He's already started with his trademark of posting images in his messages.

any way to run a trace on the IP and see if it's a Florida ISP? I'm pretty sure he lives in Florida. He's probably just logging in from a friend's house or the library this time around.

Joe Redifer · 02/28/2008, 01:05 AM

You can tell if you go to a site which lets you see the Whois for an IP.

However there are proxy servers that can be used to disguise someone's IP and they can be located anywhere.

PCEngineFX · 02/28/2008, 01:49 AM

I realize that you can disguise your IP. Here is WandererFromYs IP info:

OrgName: FDC Servers.net, LLC
OrgID: FDCSE
Address: 141 West Jackson Blvd, Suite 1135
City: Chicago
StateProv: IL
PostalCode: 60604
Country: US

ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.fdcservers.net:4321

NetRange: 66.90.64.0 - 66.90.127.255
CIDR: 66.90.64.0/18
NetName: FDCSERVERS
NetHandle: NET-66-90-64-0-1
Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS3.FDCSERVERS.NET
NameServer: NS4.FDCSERVERS.NET
Comment:
RegDate: 2003-08-18
Updated: 2004-02-26

Here is Validus's latest IP:
OrgName: BellSouth.net Inc.
OrgID: BELL
Address: 575 Morosgo Drive
City: Atlanta
StateProv: GA
PostalCode: 30324
Country: US

ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.eng.bellsouth.net:4321

NetRange: 65.0.0.0 - 65.15.255.255
CIDR: 65.0.0.0/12
NetName: BELLSNET-BLK6
NetHandle: NET-65-0-0-0-1
Parent: NET-65-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: AUTH-DNS.ASM.BELLSOUTH.NET
NameServer: AUTH-DNS.MIA.BELLSOUTH.NET
NameServer: AUTH-DNS.MSY.BELLSOUTH.NET

I did a test - I changed WandererFromYs password so he should be emailing me personally REAL soon about it. Should be a good test to see if his email is formatted like his previous ones....

Keranu · 02/28/2008, 01:54 AM

Haha, well that was quick of him. I still think you all should give the poor lad some mercy

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nat · 02/29/2008, 12:53 AM

Did you ever hear from him, Aaron?

PCEngineFX · 02/29/2008, 10:42 AM

Not yet. He has tried to log in twice today so far without success.

nat · 03/01/2008, 01:53 AM

I see he's back browsing. I take it you restored his access? You feel confident it's not Validus?

nat · 03/01/2008, 01:57 AM

Well, he just proved himself to be Vaildus without a shadow of a doubt.

He just posted this message:

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4479.msg80866#msg80866

If you go to the Photobucket album containing that picture by following this thread, you'll see it's clearly Validus:

http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/duderockgames/

(And no, not because of all the scantily clad anime girls, because on page 2 of the album are actual pictures of Validus himself.)

nat · 03/01/2008, 02:04 AM

I think he just realized his mistake. He changed the picture so it no longer links to his Photobucket album. You can still get to the album he originally posted by following the link in my previous message.

EDIT: Ha, he even deleted the picture out of his album that he posted the first time around. Sneaky.

Joe Redifer · 03/01/2008, 02:11 AM

u r teh s00per-slooth, nat!

PCEngineFX · 03/01/2008, 02:13 AM

I've banned his ass and told him to fuck off. This time he was using an IP proxy service to mask his IP (pretty obvious too).

nat · 03/01/2008, 08:49 PM

Oh. My. God. This asshole just doesn't give up.

Now he's back as "TurboPlayer."

What is his obsession with this board? Why can't he take a hint?

Keranu · 03/01/2008, 09:10 PM

Quote from: nat on 03/01/2008, 08:49 PMWhat is his obsession with this board? Why can't he take a hint?

Why can't you all take a hint? He simply wants to post here and he's not causing trouble anymore. You guys can continue to ban him if you want, but I personally think it's not necessary.

nat · 03/01/2008, 10:19 PM

What hint?

Regardless of what his current intentions are, he crossed a line that never should be crossed by any user under any circumstances. Aaron made a decision to ban him for life, and asked him never to return. Even by "not causing trouble" here currently, his very presence is a blatant disregard to that demand that he stay away.

He's a liar, he's abusive, and his presence is detrimental to the forums in general. It's easy to say that he's not causing trouble anymore since we haven't given him the chance to do so-- he's banned almost as quickly as he can create a new account. He was given a chance, the same chance given to every new user when they sign up. He abused his privilege to post here by means of his own free will, nobody held a gun to his head. If he's unable to deal with the repercussions of that choice, tough shit. Maybe it'll be a lesson to him that he can apply in his personal life. Personally, I see no reason that he should be allowed back, ever.

At the end of the day though, it's Aaron's board, and he can do whatever he wants. If he wants to let him back, fine, but until that happens I'm gonna keep reporting whenever he pops back up.

Joe Redifer · 03/01/2008, 10:32 PM

He was given warning(s) in the past and he chose to not heed them. I would like to ban proxy servers, but I'd be afraid that might make affect some legitimate members.

PCEngineFX · 03/01/2008, 10:57 PM

He has made this personal with me by breaking my rules and insulting me every chance he gets. I've now turned on Admin only member approval since I can't seem to keep him away.

Joe Redifer · 03/01/2008, 11:28 PM

Probably a good idea for now.

Did you also turn on a quick edit button or has it just taken me months to notice it?

PCEngineFX · 03/01/2008, 11:36 PM

I think it has taken you months to notice it

Keranu · 03/02/2008, 01:43 AM

Quote from: nat on 03/01/2008, 10:19 PMRegardless of what his current intentions are, he crossed a line that never should be crossed by any user under any circumstances. Aaron made a decision to ban him for life, and asked him never to return. Even by "not causing trouble" here currently, his very presence is a blatant disregard to that demand that he stay away.

Quite frankly, I don't really remember his original account doing that much to deserve a ban in the first place outside of his occasional "hot temper" posts, but most of Kitsune's posts are hot tempered (and argueably worse) yet we give Kitsune many more chances. It's not just Kitsune either with abusive posts, but other members like GUTS, Helgeson, and Zeta as well, yet they're all allowed to stay here. I can understand why some people might not've liked Validus' "style", but that's just who he is. Actually Validus was a pretty well suited member here considering a lot of his posts were actually Turbo related.

Quote from: natHe's a liar, he's abusive, and his presence is detrimental to the forums in general. It's easy to say that he's not causing trouble anymore since we haven't given him the chance to do so-- he's banned almost as quickly as he can create a new account. He was given a chance, the same chance given to every new user when they sign up. He abused his privilege to post here by means of his own free will, nobody held a gun to his head. If he's unable to deal with the repercussions of that choice, tough shit. Maybe it'll be a lesson to him that he can apply in his personal life. Personally, I see no reason that he should be allowed back, ever.

If he was truly causing trouble, he would be making new names to troll and not to actually make "normal" posts. For being that dedicated for having normal Turbo discussions (which we need), I think he definitely deserves another chance. By banning him, you're just encouraging him to keep coming back anyways.

Even if he did attack Aaron, at least he did it PRIVATELY. With all the names he made, he could've easily spammed it all over the forum, but instead took it private, like more people on these forums should do.

You have to be careful how you use your "powers". Sometimes people gotta work things out themselves.

nat · 03/02/2008, 11:42 AM

Quote from: Keranu on 03/02/2008, 01:43 AMQuite frankly, I don't really remember his original account doing that much to deserve a ban in the first place outside of his occasional "hot temper" posts, but most of Kitsune's posts are hot tempered (and argueably worse) yet we give Kitsune many more chances. It's not just Kitsune either with abusive posts, but other members like GUTS, Helgeson, and Zeta as well, yet they're all allowed to stay here.

There's a difference between heated discussions and verbally attacking/abusing other members. Maybe you didn't see the stuff Validus posted that got him the ban originally (it was deleted quick) but it was far worse than anything I've ever seen from anyone here.

QuoteYou have to be careful how you use your "powers". Sometimes people gotta work things out themselves.

Sure. This case isn't one of them, however.

nat · 03/02/2008, 11:57 AM

Aaron, heads up on "EvilDeadite". Looks like an account created in 2006 that was never used that has suddenly become active. He posted in a bunch of threads started by Validus previously. I find it highly coincidental as soon as you turn on Admin-only approval for new accounts this old account suddenly becomes active.

PCEngineFX · 03/02/2008, 01:08 PM

I have deleted EvilDeadite's account. His email addresss was bogus as well so I had no problem deleting it.

Keranu · 03/02/2008, 06:02 PM

Quote from: nat on 03/02/2008, 11:42 AM
Quote from: Keranu on 03/02/2008, 01:43 AMQuite frankly, I don't really remember his original account doing that much to deserve a ban in the first place outside of his occasional "hot temper" posts, but most of Kitsune's posts are hot tempered (and argueably worse) yet we give Kitsune many more chances. It's not just Kitsune either with abusive posts, but other members like GUTS, Helgeson, and Zeta as well, yet they're all allowed to stay here.
There's a difference between heated discussions and verbally attacking/abusing other members. Maybe you didn't see the stuff Validus posted that got him the ban originally (it was deleted quick) but it was far worse than anything I've ever seen from anyone here.

What about Kitsune's wild verbal attacks against Kirby and others? We have given him numerous chances and I think his attacks were far worse than Validus'. And as mentioned, GUTS and Zeta have verbally attacked others in the past as well (and Helgeson used to also when he was new, including making fun of nod's dead ex wife).

Quote from: nat
Quote from: KeranuYou have to be careful how you use your "powers". Sometimes people gotta work things out themselves.
Sure. This case isn't one of them, however.

Again, I think Valdius has learned his lesson since he is creating new accounts to have serious/normal discussions instead of just trolling. The poor nerd just wants to talk about Turbo games

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nat · 03/02/2008, 06:22 PM

Quote from: Keranu on 03/02/2008, 06:02 PMWhat about Kitsune's wild verbal attacks against Kirby and others? We have given him numerous chances and I think his attacks were far worse than Validus'. And as mentioned, GUTS and Zeta have verbally attacked others in the past as well (and Helgeson used to also when he was new, including making fun of nod's dead ex wife).

I recommended a ban in Kitsune's case. It didn't happen.

As far as the others go, I can't really say much-- I wasn't a moderator back then.

They seem to be staying more or less in line lately. Helgeson was definitely an instigator in his early days here but he's really calmed down over the past year or so.

But the thing you have to remember about Validus was that he didn't just abuse other members, he spammed the forums from top to bottom with meaningless garbage posts and large images that were non-sequitor to the discussions at hand.

Either way, this discussion is moot, as Aaron has made up his mind.

nat · 03/09/2008, 03:26 PM

Hate to be one to cry "Wolf!" but the newest member, "doggybruiser," seems to have a similar posting style to Validus. And in true Validus form he just showed up overnight and seems to have started posting without introducing himself.

Just a heads up, one to keep an eye on.

PCEngineFX · 03/14/2008, 04:18 PM

Something else I'm doing now is emailing the new user before I approve. If I don't get some sort of reply back, I won't approve the account. It's been interesting to hear how new users have learned about the site.

nat · 03/14/2008, 04:26 PM

Oh yeah? Heard any crazy stories?

PCEngineFX · 03/14/2008, 04:35 PM

Well, nothing crazy.....just interesting to hear how people found the site. One guy I just approved today found the site via Digital Press forums...and one other guy I approved this week wrote me a novel about how he just digged out his TurboDuo after a million years in storage and that it might have the sound issue that D-Lite talked about in one thread and decided to start contributing instead of being a guest.

PCEngineFX · 06/01/2008, 10:25 PM

https://www.youtube.com/user/DJVa11a

Looks like Validus decided to show up again, this time on Youtube posting crap comments on some of my videos. This guy is a piece of work.

nat · 06/02/2008, 12:25 AM

Yeah, usually people like this move on and forget. What a jerkoff.

Joe Redifer · 06/02/2008, 12:48 AM

I hate those people who hold eternal grudges over perceived wrongs done to them on the internet.