A HuCard is...

[Ceti Alpha]

We should have asked the mighty ENIAC in the first place!!!!!

I've been hopping this fence like a rabbit on 6 cups of coffee, but that's it. It's a cartridge. I don't thinking calling it a cartridge is very descriptive, as the HuCARD is not a traditional form of cartridge, but it is a cartridge nonetheless.

[Sinistron]

HAHAHA We rolled Ceti over to our side! Take that you bastards!  "A hucard isn't a cartridge"!!  LOLOLOLOL   It's not TV! It's HBO! 

[TurboXray]

Isn't the black part a coating and not integral to the PCB making it fully encased (except for the contacts, obviously)?  I postulate that the white plastic card provides the cartridge back/sides and the black coating is the top.  If you don't buy that argument (who'd blame you?), then would you say that Street Fighter 2, Populous, and the Tennokoe Bank are indeed cartridges?

The black part is in fact the PCB and PCB's have coatings, but that doesn't make it an enclosure since the coating to the PCB itself and not part of the card structure. Regarding Street Fighter 2 and the others with pop-ups, the pop-up serves only one purpose: to provided an area for the game label/logo. This is because the PCB is much longer than the normal PCB and therefore would drastically restrict the size of the label/logo.

Both of the sides of the card are plastic straight up and down- meaning that in width the thing is plastic.

That doesn't make it a case/cartridge. (Also the top isn't plastic)

 Throwing all the technical jargon aside and going with the obvious/general, if you just look at it then you'll plainly see that it's a card - not a cart or cassette or cartridge in any of the traditional sense of the meaning. Funny, it wasn't till this thread that I really cared, but now I do damn it!!! 

[PCEngineHell]

Pcbs don't generally have protective coatings,they have layers. The black area covers everything. if it wasn't there there would be exposed pcb,ect and it would look unattractive..

[TurboXray]

Pcbs don't generally have protective coatings

But they do. If they didn't, then all the lands would be exposed to shorts and what not. Except for the very ancient PCBs, they all have a protective coating. But in the case of the Hucard, that backside is the PCB. Whatever material it is, that is the board in which the lands and rom/ICs are attached to. Regardless of it's esthetics 

[GohanX]

Pcbs don't generally have protective coatings,they have layers. The black area covers everything. if it wasn't there there would be exposed pcb,ect and it would look unattractive..

I dunno, I kind of like the exposed PCB look.  Neoflash's flash carts look awesome, in my opinion.  Of course, it's probably more fragile than an actual hucard since everything is exposed.

[spenoza]

Well, here's the real test of whether or not it's a true card. We need to punch holes in it and find a 35 year old computer. I mean, these HuCardWhatchamacallit's are just glorified punch cards, right?

[rag-time4]

Wrong again.  I never said I was trying to quit smoking.  Those on the shoutbox who know me better know that every week I take breaks from smoking- with no intention of quitting.  There were other reasons beyond that that me and my girlfriend (not wife) were having a hard time last night- and if you'd like to air my personal business that I was referring to amongst friends in that regard then I must warn you- I will seriously burn you and make you look more convoluted and desperate than you're already looking- than a bunch of us on shoutbox last night already agreed you look.  I believe that the running joke last night was that I am a zionist for calling a hucard a cartridge.  If you care to be the fodder for more shoutbox humor then so be it.

Sinistron, sorry for terribly misquoting what you said in shoutbox... I certainly didn't intend it as humor.

Whatever you and your gf are going through I hope that God will bless you and make it easy for you.

The reason I brought it up is just that you seemed to get super upset about my calling you a "tool"... Nat said in previous post that anyone who takes the position that I, Shubi, Superdeadite, and others who are more on the fence, have taken (that HuCards aren't cartridges) are "doofus"(es)

So, following in the spirit of Nat's post, in which he referred to opponents as "doofus"es, I responded by calling you a tool, for being too unquestioning of the dictionary definition... by extension, it also applies to others who feel that HuCards are cartridges because of what the dictionary says...

The reason I singled you out, Sinistron, wasn't for any other reason than you happened to be the one who posted the dictionary definition and then said that your position in the argument was "most certain" after quoting the dictionary definition.

Sorry that talking about your personal situation made you more upset. It wasn't my intention at all.

[Sinistron]

An apology of sorts- good enough for now.     Let's hug it out- and I won't squeeze too hard- you look breakable.   

[rag-time4]

An apology of sorts- good enough for now.     Let's hug it out- and I won't squeeze too hard- you look breakable.   

I'm slim and sleek like a HuCard... not fat and tubby like some clunky cartridge!!!

[nat]

Oh geez, anyone who took that doofus comment seriously needs to learn a thing or two about Internet humor. 

[rag-time4]

Oh geez, anyone who took that doofus comment seriously needs to learn a thing or two about Internet humor. 

Just as anyone who took my tool comment seriously... I was attempting to respond in the spirit of your post, Nat.

[Sinistron]

Except that you singled me out as the tool- and in bad context- as I clearly showed how vague the definition was.  Then when I pointed that out you continued to try to justify my being a tool in the unjustifiable context you were aiming at.  You changed your reasoning each time and then landed on you were using me to group everyone together because someone else called you guys doofuses.  I am not above being called a tool- I can take it and laugh heartedly if used in good context, coherence and humor.  You came with none of the three.  I was perhaps the wrong choice for your jibe.  I take on all comers and at the very least will put your reasoning and mettle to the test, all the while peppering my posts with gags that have whiskers 

Anyway it looks like your lot came up weak here as the cartridge kids double the card club. 

You definitely need some bigger guns in your debate club.  Even your strongest supporter Bonknuts lacks conviction and voted cartridge.   

[rag-time4]

Except that you singled me out as the tool- and in bad context- as I clearly showed how vague the definition was.  Then when I pointed that out you continued to try to justify my being a tool in the unjustifiable context you were aiming at.  You changed your reasoning each time and then landed on you were using me to group everyone together because someone else called you guys doofuses.  I am not above being called a tool- I can take it and laugh heartedly if used in good context, coherence and humor.  You came with none of the three.  I was perhaps the wrong choice for your jibe.  I take on all comers and at the very least will put your reasoning and mettle to the test, all the while peppering my posts with gags that have whiskers 

Anyway it looks like your lot came up weak here as the cartridge kids double the card club. 

You definitely need some bigger guns in your debate club.  Even your strongest supporter Bonknuts lacks conviction and voted cartridge.   

What unjustifiable context did you perceive me to be aiming at?

[Sinistron]

That I was rigidly adhering to a dictionary definition of cartridge and suggested the word was unalterable.

Being the first poster to reply was why I dropped the definition- to offer the thread an introductory technical viewpoint on the word's meaning- for I knew that the thread was about semantics.  I then showed the definition to be absurd.  Lastly I said that it's clearly a cartridge and that was merely my opinion.  Clear as in clear to me. 

I really don't know how much more concise I can make it.  That's it in a nutshell- you either get it- or for some obscure reason- you don't.

[rag-time4]

That I was rigidly adhering to a dictionary definition of cartridge and suggested the word was unalterable.

When I said It's clearly a hucard that was merely my opinion.  Being the first poster to reply was why I dropped the definition- to give the thread a technical viewpoint- which I then showed to be absurd.

The way I interpreted that was that your line about wankers was a joke, but that ultimately a HuCard is "most certainly" a cartridge based on the above quoted definition.

In all of our butting of heads it was the only reason you gave for why you feel that HuCards are cartridges, and most certainly was the only reason you gave in your original post for HuCards "most certainly" being cartridges.

[PCEngineHell]

Pcbs don't generally have protective coatings

But they do. If they didn't, then all the lands would be exposed to shorts and what not. Except for the very ancient PCBs, they all have a protective coating. But in the case of the Hucard, that backside is the PCB. Whatever material it is, that is the board in which the lands and rom/ICs are attached to. Regardless of it's esthetics 

I meant a protective coating covering the layers of chips,resistors,chip sockets,ect. The back side of the normal pcb has exposed solder points too,no protective coating/layer covering those.

[Sinistron]

Nat's replies were pretty much the same at first- he was pretty much like "they're cartridges".  Seemed so clear to me that an explanation wasn't even really necessary.  Anyway if you open your eyes a little more you can find by easily combing through the thread a post stating exactly why I feel it's a cartridge- and if you take that post into account yet press further that your point was more than a deluded interpretation- then you'd be insisting that I changed my story mid-stream- that I did from jumpstreet take the dictionary definition literally even though I joked about it's vagueness and only changed my true opinion on why it's a cartridge because you called me on it.  To go there would not only be peculiarly reaching at this point- but it'd be a few stops past where you'd really want to have gotten off of this bus.  I can make your trip quite unpleasant- for instance- I can say "no eating on the bus!"...  On second thought I'd have to come up with a more suitable punishment- being that you obviously haven't had a meal since Christ was a pup anyway.

[rag-time4]

Nat's replies were pretty much the same at first- he was pretty much like "they're cartridges".  Seemed so clear to me that an explanation wasn't even really necessary.  Anyway if you open your eyes a little more you can find by easily combing through the thread a post stating exactly why I feel it's a cartridge- and if you take that post into account yet press further that your point was more than a deluded interpretation- then you'd be insisting that I changed my story mid-stream- that I did from jumpstreet take the dictionary definition literally even though I joked about it's vagueness and only changed my true opinion on why it's a cartridge because you called me on it.  To go there would not only be peculiarly reaching at this point- but it'd be a few stops past where you'd really want to have gotten off of this bus.  I can make your trip quite unpleasant- for instance- I can say "no eating on the bus!"...  On second thought I'd have to come up with a more suitable punishment- being that you obviously haven't had a meal since Christ was a pup anyway.

Well I found this...

yeah- I know hell's freezing over or whatever- but Zeta's 110% right.  There were photos on threads here I believe (or on other pce related sites) that I'm sure most of you have seen where a hucard is taken apart and the card is CLEARLY a case and is clearly mostly plastic- you don't even need to take it apart to see that.  Why is there even any debate?

He's also absolutely right that Sega calling their card-shaped cartridges "cards" was only about marketing- only the foolish would take it so literally.  Are you the same people who believe in blast processing?

This post came after your pic...

Though my calling you a "tool" was off base in the first place, since you didn't base your opinion on the dictionary definition, you do after all this seem to agree with me in that the dictionary definition of "cartridge" is not a good reason to consider HuCards cartridges...

Would you agree with me that those who classify HuCards as cartridges based solely on the dictionary definition are "tools"? 

As for this "sealed chip" nonsense... I'm still not buying the idea that HuCards meet the aesthetic definition of a "cartridge"...

HuCard = 2 door Turbo sportscoupe
Cartridge = cadillac boat

[Sinistron]

I absolutely would agree with you that those who classify HuCards as cartridges based solely on the dictionary definition are tools- only problem is that I don't believe that anyone here is taking the definition that literally in the first place- I don't see where you picked that up from- from anyone's post here.  Necromancer even did the same thing I did- he showed how absurd one of the definitions would be if applied and then stated that it's a cartridge without giving much reason at first- because it was clear to him too.  Obviously a definition of a word comes into play in a thread about semantics- but mostly in the way in which we've come to know the definition ourselves- not in the way a textbook or all-purpose generalized definition plays out.  Perhaps being that our strong sense of conviction and feeling that the answer was so obvious made us not initially put forth our main reasoning- you falsely suspected that we had no reasoning.  If so you were wrong.

[rag-time4]

I absolutely would agree with you that those who classify HuCards as cartridges based solely on the dictionary definition are tools- only problem is that I don't believe that anyone here is taking the definition that literally in the first place- I don't see where you picked that up from- from anyone's post here.  Necromancer even did the same thing I did- he showed how absurd one of the definitions would be if applied and then stated that it's a cartridge without giving much reason at first- because it was clear to him to.  Obviously a definition of a word comes into play in a thread about semantics- but mostly in the way in which we've come to know the definition ourselves- not in the way a textbook or all-purpose generalized definition plays out.  Perhaps being that our strong sense of conviction and feeling that the answer was so obvious made us not initially put forth our main reasoning- you falsely suspected that we had no reasoning.  If so you were wrong.

The dictionary definition was the only reason you gave several pages into the thread so that's why I thought you had based your position on that definition, even though you made a joke about it.

I was wrong.

It's not that I felt you had no reasoning, but that I thought your reasoning was based on the dictionary definition. You said that your reasoning wasn't based on the definition, pointed out that you joked about the definition, then called me a muddle headed fool...

So I responded by showing you that in your first post you did say that it was "most certain" that HuCards were cartridges though you provided no reasoning other than the dictionary definition.

EDIT ~ and you may be right that nobody here is relying on the dictionary definition, but just in case there are any, we have them covered!

[Sinistron]

I was wrong.

"I love the smell of I'm Wrong in the morning!   Smells like...    victory."

[rag-time4]

"I love the smell of I'm Wrong in the morning!   Smells like...    victory."

Haha victory in the sense that your reasoning was "most certainly" clarified, but HuCards are still not cartridges.

[PCEngineHell]

Nat's replies were pretty much the same at first- he was pretty much like "they're cartridges".  Seemed so clear to me that an explanation wasn't even really necessary.  Anyway if you open your eyes a little more you can find by easily combing through the thread a post stating exactly why I feel it's a cartridge- and if you take that post into account yet press further that your point was more than a deluded interpretation- then you'd be insisting that I changed my story mid-stream- that I did from jumpstreet take the dictionary definition literally even though I joked about it's vagueness and only changed my true opinion on why it's a cartridge because you called me on it.  To go there would not only be peculiarly reaching at this point- but it'd be a few stops past where you'd really want to have gotten off of this bus.  I can make your trip quite unpleasant- for instance- I can say "no eating on the bus!"...  On second thought I'd have to come up with a more suitable punishment- being that you obviously haven't had a meal since Christ was a pup anyway.

Well I found this...

yeah- I know hell's freezing over or whatever- but Zeta's 110% right.  There were photos on threads here I believe (or on other pce related sites) that I'm sure most of you have seen where a hucard is taken apart and the card is CLEARLY a case and is clearly mostly plastic- you don't even need to take it apart to see that.  Why is there even any debate?

He's also absolutely right that Sega calling their card-shaped cartridges "cards" was only about marketing- only the foolish would take it so literally.  Are you the same people who believe in blast processing?

This post came after your pic...

Though my calling you a "tool" was off base in the first place, since you didn't base your opinion on the dictionary definition, you do after all this seem to agree with me in that the dictionary definition of "cartridge" is not a good reason to consider HuCards cartridges...

Would you agree with me that those who classify HuCards as cartridges based solely on the dictionary definition are "tools"? 

As for this "sealed chip" nonsense... I'm still not buying the idea that HuCards meet the aesthetic definition of a "cartridge"...

HuCard = 2 door Turbo sportscoupe
Cartridge = cadillac boat

What blows me away is that a guy who has as of yet shown no tech experience is now the ultimate decider of what makes a cart a cart......
And this is priceless:

HuCard = 2 door Turbo sportscoupe
Cartridge = cadillac boat

Are you referring to the Cadillac Boat Co. located in Cadillac,Michigan. If so they are not very well known to make fat, ugly, or bloated boats. Other then that Ive never actually seen any boat that resembles a Cadillac car.... I think you realized you were trying to give the argument that hucards are diff from carts,then realized your example was 2 car types so you randomly threw in the word boat.

But lets say you did mean for one to be a car,the other a boat,ok from that point of view they are still classified in the same category of being vehicles that assist travel. The only difference being cars have wheels,and boats have propellers.Also,since you even made a boat reference does this mean you have done the floating cart test? I think you should apply hard core science to this Rags. Fill your tub. Drop in a Neo Geo cart. Clearly the biggest and bulkiest of the carts. See if it sinks. If it does then its clearly not a boat,but a Cadillac car. Now take a hu-card,drop it in,does it sink? Then its clearly a car also,and if both = cars then both = carts. Repeat this test 3 times and record the results.

Have you completed the test,great,now its time for dinner. Pat yourself on the back (Rag Time),(everyone else) fire up the grill,trow on a couple of steaks and enjoy some meat med rare with some A1 and booze. See Rag,you put all the labor into proving everyone else right,and the only ones left celebrating at the end of it are the ones saying they are carts right from the start,treating themselves to steak dinners and jokes and good times. We'll all go to sleep well fed and happy knowing they are carts. You'll go to sleep bitter and hungry (for food,not revenge).

[rag-time4]

If it does then its clearly not a boat,but a Cadillac car. Now take a hu-card,drop it in,does it sink? Then its clearly a car also,and if both = cars then both = carts. Repeat this test 3 times and record the results.

Hmmm well within the general category of "cars" there are various subtypes, such as "sedan," "sportscoupe," "compact," etc.... I used "cadillac boat" as a subtype just because I don't know the proper term for those behemoths...

As I see it, this discussion is about the general category of "video game media," and whether or not HuCards fit into the subtype "cartridge," or are a subtype all to themselves.

According to the dictionary definition so eloquently presented by Sinistron, CD-ROM disks are "most certainly" cartridges...

But as gamers we classify them as an independent subtype of "video game media."

I think HuCards belong in their own subtype, because they're aesthetically superior to cartridges.   

[PCEngineHell]

Well,there are some older cd-rom drives that use cartridges,but that does not mean the disc itself is  a cart. It s a different type of medium. It uses a laser and pits on a reflective layer and plastic. Now your becoming extremely confused. If you ate better this wouldn't happen. See the wonders of how well fed people think the clearest. Theres clearly a reason why Buddha is depicted as wise and all knowing after his starving journey to enlightenment,because hes happy and well fed. The skinny starving years of Buddha were full of confusion and inner conflict until he discovered food is good. Follow the path of Buddha,eat.

[rag-time4]

Well,there are some older cd-rom drives that use cartridges,but that does not mean the disc itself is  a cart. It s a different type of medium. It uses a laser and pits on a reflective layer and plastic. Now your becoming extremely confused. If you ate better this wouldn't happen. See the wonders of how well fed people think the clearest. Theres clearly a reason why Buddha is depicted as wise and all knowing after his starving journey to enlightenment,because hes happy and well fed. The skinny starving years of Buddha were full of confusion and inner conflict until he discovered food is good. Follow the path of Buddha,eat.

[rag-time4]

Ha Rag,you edited your post. I guess you clearly came to your senses and realized theres nothing in any dictionary definition stating compact disc are cartridges,and hit that edit button double fast. Priceless. Oh well,Im well fed,happy,and now sleepy. Time for bed.

Seems according to Sinistron's definition, CD's can "most certainly" be considered cartridges...

That's not why I deleted my post... I felt as I was typing it that you were just trolling, trying to coax more responses out of me seeing as how you were making mock of my diet, which is based on my religion, more than you were discussing the topic. 

[PCEngineHell]

Ha Rag,you edited your post. I guess you clearly came to your senses and realized theres nothing in any dictionary definition stating compact disc are cartridges,and hit that edit button double fast. Priceless. Lest be clear on this,even one of the greatest plotters and thinkers of all time,Yogi Bear,knew that food was essential to happines and overall well being.

Yogi Bear would never ever confuse a cd-rom disc for a cartridge,let alone state a hu-card is anything but a cartridge.
See,the only one ever able to really foil Yogis plots was Ranger Smith,and only because he had easier access to food and clearly wanted to steal it all for himself.

Ha Rag,you edited your post. I guess you clearly came to your senses and realized theres nothing in any dictionary definition stating compact disc are cartridges,and hit that edit button double fast. Priceless. Oh well,Im well fed,happy,and now sleepy. Time for bed.

Seems according to Sinistron's definition, CD's can "most certainly" be considered cartridges...

That's not why I deleted my post... I felt as I was typing it that you were just trolling, trying to coax more responses out of me seeing as how you were making mock of my diet, which is based on my religion, more than you were discussing the topic. 

Ha ha you quoted my removed and revised post,thus making you a double poster,silly silly man. Religion or not,anyone willing to starve themselves to confusion and unhappiness will clearly get my scorn,so you can go play that "making fun of my religion" victim harp somewhere else. I dont care what religion you practice. And for that matter Mr. Pot calling the Kettle Black,I remember not so long ago you bringing up personal matters on Sinis side as ammo for your argument here. Id say you starving yourself is just as personal as Sini smoking,ect... Cant handle the heat??? Then get out of the kitchen. You obviously don't like kitchens anyway....
Oh well,Im well fed,happy,and now sleepy. Time for bed,for serious this time.

[Tatsujin]

Not a cartridge. coz it is, as its name already says, a card!

[PCEngineHell]

Not a cartridge. coz it is, as its name already says, a card!

Wrong!!! Its a slice of bread,as the whiteness implies 

[nat]

Not a cartridge. coz it is, as its name already says, a card!

That's funny.

When I was at the supermarket the other day I tried paying with my Genpei Toumaden card. The cashier just looked at me funny and started snickering. I was embarrassed and confused.

You guys told me it was a card, right?

[Sinistron]

Serously.  They're not even good 'fer playing poker.  They don't have any suits on 'em!

Even though Genpei Toumaden is clearly a 'Joker'

[Ceti Alpha]

Not a cartridge. coz it is, as its name already says, a card!

That's funny.

When I was at the supermarket the other day I tried paying with my Genpei Toumaden card. The cashier just looked at me funny and started snickering. I was embarrassed and confused.

You guys told me it was a card, right?

That's hilarious. Next time I cross the border I'm going to try using Galaga '90 as my passport.

[OldRover]

When I was at the supermarket the other day I tried paying with my Genpei Toumaden card. The cashier just looked at me funny and started snickering. I was embarrassed and confused.

You guys told me it was a card, right?

It's a card alright, but that one in particular won't get you far. You can't pay with a valueless card, you know. Next time, try paying wih Ankoku Densetsu...worked for me.

[bust3dstr8]

Voted "not a cart"

To me carts have pcb that are sperate from the shell/casing and are easily removed.


If there wasn't a difference my camera would use memory cartridges. 

[PCEngineHell]

If there wasn't a difference my camera would use memory cartridges. 

But indeed it does

[spenoza]

I'm not a huge fan of TechWeb (unsubscribing from their insidious web of email communications is a nightmare) but their TechWeb encyclopedia has some content which does not suck.

They define a cartridge as:

"A removable storage module that contains magnetic disks, optical discs, magnetic tape or memory chips. Cartridges are inserted into slots in the drive, printer or computer."

If I put on my Tool Hat and go by this definition, a HuCard quite easily meets the cartridge standard. It is a removable storage module and it contains memory chips. It is also inserted into a slot in the PC Engine, which fully qualifies as a computer (if someone starts arguing semantics with me over the term computer you get smacked with the Flaming Web Troll stick).

It's clear most of the plastic of the HuCard is simply something to hold on to, to give it form and substance, and is thus a container, holding the usually quite small memory chips that contain the game.

Frankly, I don't mind wearing the Tool Hat on this one. The TechWeb definition is quite specific and, IMO, accurate.

[nat]

Well we might as well just lock 'er up after that one. Well put.

[PCEngineHell]

Yep,that last reply put it nicest.

[TurboXray]

"A removable storage module that contains magnetic disks, optical discs, magnetic tape or memory chips. Cartridges are inserted into slots in the drive, printer or computer."

 That's bullshit. What is that, some self appoint dictionary site? By that definition, a ram board is a cartridge. That's insane. A PCB stocked with ram is most certainly not a cartridge. Hell, I guess spoons are cartridges too. Credit cards are really credit cartridges. Shit, anything and everything is a cartridge. That proves it right there. End of discussion.

[spenoza]

I've actually heard of RAM sticks called RAM cartridges from time to time. Not often, but occasionally.

Dunno 'bout spoons, though. I could probably stick them in a slot in a computer somewhere, but I'm not sure the sticking of the spoon in the slot would actually facilitate any of the assumed transfer of data that would be on whatever storage medium I've spooned with my spoon. Spoon is a lovely word; thank you for mentioning it.

I take the view that the word cartridge is a very general term that can indeed be used more broadly than narrowly. And yeah, it does seem like a credit card might be able to be considered a cartridge on the outside, though a HuCard meshes with the definition much more neatly.

And let's face it. Almost any definition can be abused or misread somehow. That's the joy of language; that powerful specificity, and lack thereof, of concrete meaning. And no, TechWeb is not a self-appointed dictionary site. It's a self-appointed technology site (and publication source) that also happens to host, among other things, a brief tech encyclopedia. I honestly was just poking around there for shits and giggles and discovered I approved of their definition of cartridge.

But you're welcome to borrow my Tool Hat, if you like.

[NecroPhile]

A HuCard is a cartridge in the shape of a card.  End of story. 

But you're welcome to borrow my Tool Hat, if you like.

Ha-ha, you said tool.  I have my own tool hat, thank you; I take off my detachable penis cartridge and wrap it around my head like a turban.

[spenoza]

I have a friend who's name is Atul. Another fellow I knew in college could not say, without giggling, "Hi, I'm Atul." And he said it often.

[esteban]

Interesting. So we are arguing semantics?

 I voted for cartridge, but technically it's not IMO. It's a card. A cartridge is a hollow case(usually two halves) that houses a PCB. A card is either glued to or molded with, a slim PCB. The share the same purpose (protecting the PCB), but are nothing alike in design.

I don't care what other folks call our little Hueys.... but I think it is a card. For the record.

[esteban]

Other then that Ive never actually seen any boat that resembles a Cadillac car....

Dude, my first car was a '75 Cadillac DeVille (yes, that's the color I had).

I learned how to drive on that boat.

It was most certainly a boat. IIRC, the driving test in NJ required me to parallel park in a 25' spot... the DeVille was 22'+ long... and it felt WIDE too.

It was awesome sailing around Manhattan in that DeVille.

Also, for the car buffs out there, I think the year I had ('74 or '75 or '76) was the best-looking (see photo). The seemingly subtle differences between the years really makes a difference...

[Joe Redifer]

Technically it is a cartridge, but I like calling them "cards" (same goes for Sega Master System cards) simply because they are far less bulky than other non-card cartridges.  They are the same size as a credit card, you can collect and trade them like baseball cards, you can use them to buy alcohol (not many people under 21 collect for the TurboGrafx), you can shuffle them and play games with them and you can build pyramids out of them.

Card.

(I can't vote "not a cartridge", but I would vote "card" over "cartridge").

[rag-time4]

Ha ha you quoted my removed and revised post,thus making you a double poster,silly silly man. Religion or not,anyone willing to starve themselves to confusion and unhappiness will clearly get my scorn,so you can go play that "making fun of my religion" victim harp somewhere else. I dont care what religion you practice. And for that matter Mr. Pot calling the Kettle Black,I remember not so long ago you bringing up personal matters on Sinis side as ammo for your argument here. Id say you starving yourself is just as personal as Sini smoking,ect... Cant handle the heat??? Then get out of the kitchen. You obviously don't like kitchens anyway....
Oh well,Im well fed,happy,and now sleepy. Time for bed,for serious this time.

I wasn't using Sini's personal matters as ammo, it was a misguided attempt to get him to calm down a bit. It seemed like he was getting mad so I tried to say something nice on a personal level to try to calm things down. Part of this was that the way he was talking to me was getting me upset, so I tried to say something nice and disengage from the conversation for a while.

Obviously, it's presumptuous to assume why someone else may be getting mad, so I'm sorry I did that, and I made it even worse by not even quoting what he said in shout correctly, so I'm sorry for that too.

That said, cadillac boats are not sportscars and HuCards are not cartridges! How's that for a muddled analogy?

[Tatsujin]

That's hilarious. Next time I cross the border I'm going to try using Galaga '90 as my passport.

better go for sure and use the X.E.V.I.O.U.S!

[Lord Thag]

Haha, we're up to seven pages of this? Awesome!