PCE, SNES and Genesis Screen Comparison.

_Paul · 03/07/2010, 09:05 AM

Altered Beast HU vs CD

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exodus · 03/08/2010, 03:45 AM

a lot of the detail changes in stage 1 are odd - they don't seem to be hardware constraints - they just...felt like redoing it?

Joe Redifer · 03/08/2010, 07:54 PM

They wanted the CD users to think that they were getting soooooo much more for choosing the NEC CD platform. That way CD users could brag that their version has an extra cloud or something and then HuCard users would get crazy jealous and go buy the CD unit.

esteban · 03/08/2010, 11:23 PM

Quote from: exodus on 03/08/2010, 03:45 AMa lot of the detail changes in stage 1 are odd - they don't seem to be hardware constraints - they just...felt like redoing it?

Basically, I believe that the developers were forward-thinking pioneers: they wanted folks (like ourselves) to speculate on message boards about Altered Beast...so they devised a plan to make the HuCard and CD versions slightly different.

This means, therefore, that the developers anticipated the internet (as we know it today).

That, my friend, is awesome.

TurboXray · 03/09/2010, 02:56 AM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 03/08/2010, 07:54 PMThey wanted the CD users to think that they were getting soooooo much more for choosing the NEC CD platform. That way CD users could brag that their version has an extra cloud or something and then HuCard users would get crazy jealous and go buy the CD unit.

On a serious note, it could have been that two different dev teams were working on these titles. Shared resources, but not specifically had to be identical. I read somewhere that SMB for the famicom and the hardware were developed around the same time, but by two different teams (not sure if they shared team members or not).

awack · 03/19/2010, 09:04 PM

Street Fighter Alpah2

Arcade Snes

Tatsujin · 03/19/2010, 10:21 PM

arcade looks better!

esteban · 03/21/2010, 06:06 AM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 03/19/2010, 10:21 PMarcade looks better!

Seconded!

Joe Redifer · 03/21/2010, 09:51 AM

But the SNES is more arcade-like.

saintfu · 03/21/2010, 01:16 PM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 03/19/2010, 10:21 PMarcade looks better!

I think SFZ2 is suitable for 32bit generation consoles such as PS and Sega Saturn. SNES version loses a lot of details due to the low resolution.

Tatsujin · 03/21/2010, 01:36 PM

Quote from: saintfu on 03/21/2010, 01:16 PM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 03/19/2010, 10:21 PMarcade looks better!
I think SFZ2 is suitable for 32bit generation consoles such as PS and Sega Saturn. SNES version loses a lot of details due to the low resolution.

you are very right.

turbogrfxfan · 03/21/2010, 04:27 PM

I like the pce version better cause its brighter the nes version looks like its dead. I get bored looking at it.

blueraven · 03/22/2010, 10:32 AM

Arcade.

awack · 04/14/2010, 09:29 PM

I was practicing making maps and thought you guys might like to see some of them, decided to make some snes maps for fun.

pcengine on top except for the boxing ring.

Pcengine on bottom

ParanoiaDragon · 04/15/2010, 01:53 AM

Nice

Arkhan Asylum · 04/15/2010, 07:52 AM

yeah the home Alpha 2 of choice for me is the Playstation one.

screw the SNES one.

Ceti Alpha · 04/15/2010, 10:45 AM

The PCE all the way.

Arkhan Asylum · 04/15/2010, 11:28 AM

yes there is definitely no comparison for this one, lol

awack · 04/15/2010, 01:35 PM

Pc engine on top, now, someone needs to do Streetfighter 2

NecroPhile · 04/15/2010, 01:56 PM

The PCE version looks better pretty much everywhere except for the shadows on the floor of the boxing ring.

esteban · 04/25/2010, 12:28 PM

Neat idea, comparing stage maps.

awack · 04/27/2010, 08:15 PM

Fatal fury special.

World Heroes 2

awack · 04/28/2010, 04:36 AM

Parodius, Snes on top.

saintfu · 04/28/2010, 02:45 PM

For Parodius, both PCE and SNES version use 8M rom size, however, I think PCE cannot compete with SNES this time. SNES win the graphics, color, sound effect, and music. Parodius is a very successful reprogramming game on SNES.

shubibiman · 04/28/2010, 02:46 PM

There's much less difference than I remembered.

lord_cack · 04/28/2010, 04:42 PM

I think that the Parodius graphics on the PCE are more vibrant. The SNES colors seem muddied and washed out. PCE for me

awack · 04/28/2010, 05:54 PM

Snes on top.

lord_cack · 04/28/2010, 06:35 PM

In stills, PCE's all better. More detailed star field in the Background... colors still washed out on the snes version....

Ceti Alpha · 04/28/2010, 06:38 PM

It's a close comparison, but I agree with lord_cack that the SNES is a bit washed out.

turbogrfxfan · 04/29/2010, 07:35 AM

lets do another comparison. lemme take a crap and compare that to the snes. which one looks better? Hmmmmmmm looks like my crap has more detail...........lol pce/tg16 RULES!!!!

_Paul · 04/29/2010, 03:47 PM

I'm surprised how similar they are. Most of the PCE colours look nicer, although that bird boss has horrible green shading and is much better on the SNES.

esteban · 05/03/2010, 09:38 PM

I think both PCE and SNES Parodius look great...

BUT SNES VERSION LACKS ABILITY TO PLAY AS PCE CONSOLE, so it loses a point

awack · 05/26/2010, 07:50 PM

Reading the GNG thread over at the digital press forums, something comes up that Ive heard a few times before, that something is... Super Ghouls n Ghost proves that the snes could do a much better port of Ghouls and Ghost than the pathetic SG or Genesis, so i decided to take some shots to see for myself.

If anyone has better shots of either game, post em.

DAMAGED SNES SHOTS - REPAIR SOME DAY ??

GnG SuperGrafx Super GnG SNES

lord_cack · 05/26/2010, 09:10 PM

How does one make that comparison. Thats like saying, I think the PCE would make a much better version of Ghosts and Goblins than that POS NES did, I'll show yah....

Point not valid

Tatsujin · 05/26/2010, 10:10 PM

Ones didn't get the full point of this thread i guess ;)

Mathius · 05/27/2010, 11:43 PM

I just had to chime in on the Parodius Da! screenshots before you guys completely moved on. This is a comparison IMHO where it seems to be a tie. I think both versions are gorgeous masterpieces. I would be proud to own both.

Tatsujin · 05/27/2010, 11:54 PM

one major problem with the PCE is its missing of two stages (due to limited huey size). and 2nd, there are also almost no parallaxes used.

in contrary, and even the SFC parodius runs surprisingly smooth (regarding its hardware deficit), the PCE takes the 1st place in this category with ease.

Mathius · 05/28/2010, 12:28 AM

I am bidding on a stateside copy of the PCE version, so keeping my fingers crossed that soon I'll be playing this classic.

I mentioned in another thread how I was surprised by the fact that ALL versions of the Parodius series seem to be pretty affordable. Hope no idiot eBayers come along to ruin that for everybody. Here is that link again for this great article on the parodius series in case anybody missed out.

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/parodius/

nectarsis · 05/28/2010, 12:35 AM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/27/2010, 11:54 PMone major problem with the PCE is its missing of two stages (due to limited huey size)

Damn 2 whole stages missing

Still a supremely fun game.

blueraven · 05/28/2010, 03:16 AM

I'll take the fifth on GNG. Looks like a cool game though.

SuperDeadite · 05/28/2010, 07:25 PM

Super GnG may look better in screenshots. But in game, the SG GnG is way better. The SNES game really lacks in animation. Ever seen SGnG's Ice Demon boss? It has 2 frames of animation yes, just 2! SGnG is also a really slow game. SG GnG has much better animation and runs about 2x faster then SGnG. SGnG is boring to be honest. So damn slow....

Joe Redifer · 05/28/2010, 09:03 PM

Agreed. Ghouls n' Ghosts on almost any system is a better game than Super Ghouls n' Ghosts.

Mathius · 05/28/2010, 11:41 PM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 05/28/2010, 09:03 PMAgreed. Ghouls n' Ghosts on almost any system is a better game than Super Ghouls n' Ghosts.

Yeah, it was always my least favorite. Ghosts 'N Goblins on the NES has the most nostalgic pull over me, so it's my fav.

termis · 05/29/2010, 04:08 AM

Yeah, I feel the same way about Super GnG (slow & tedious gameplay, plagued by slowdown, etc), but most seem to like that version for some odd reason.

Tatsujin · 05/29/2010, 07:57 AM

Daimakaimura arcade is the best of all of em ever made! period.

Ceti Alpha · 05/29/2010, 08:22 AM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/29/2010, 07:57 AMDaimakaimura arcade is the best of all of em ever made! period.

For realz! There's only one better, and that's Makaimura.

Mathius · 05/29/2010, 10:49 AM

Quote from: ceti alpha on 05/29/2010, 08:22 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/29/2010, 07:57 AMDaimakaimura arcade is the best of all of em ever made! period.
For realz! There's only one better, and that's Makaimura.

I have been playing its american arcade counterpart on Capcoms Classics Collection Vol. 1. Ah, the memories.

Arkhan Asylum · 06/03/2010, 06:14 PM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 05/29/2010, 07:57 AMDaimakaimura arcade is the best of all of em ever made! period.

I like the SGFX ones music more, but thats because I like the PSG > FM in general usually, lol.

JoshTurboTrollX · 06/11/2010, 12:50 PM

You guys are all on crack, the SNES Super Ghouls n' Ghosts was excellent! The music was so amazing, great level design, awesome graphics, and was just as challenging as the others. Boring? What? Are we looking at the same game?

I think its a very well done game, just as good as the SGX and Gennies GnG games, I was very happy to see the series get a proper third game.

geise · 06/11/2010, 01:00 PM

Yeah I love the SNES Super Ghouls n Ghosts. Graphically, and musically it's an amazing game. Yes it's slower, but it was an SNES launch title. Most games during launch suffered from slow down. I do however hate the fact that you can't shoot up or down like in Daimakaimura. That does limit the gameplay some. However I do feel that Super Ghouls in Ghosts was a great game. If it's one that I hate it's the PSP version. Why everything had to be 3d polygons was rediculous. It made the game play very stiff.