Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

[RR1980]

makes you think maybe he had a listing before where the buyer actually thought the tv was actually included and afterwards filed a complain against him and gave him a negative feedback? hehe

[Mathius]

Purchased from a Toys r Us huh??? Your mom was purchased from a Toys r Us. 

[PunkCryborg]

Where are all these hardcore turbo collectors that buy rare shit from toys r us in 1995 that kept it for 15 years to sell it on ebay in 2011. SHOW YOUR FACE TO PCEFX otherwise you are just bullshitting us with your ebay auctions.
thank you.

[nat]

Just as much as these sellers, I wonder where the people buying this shit at these prices are hiding out. You'd think anyone into Turbo collecting in one form or another would've found this forum.

Sometimes I wonder if some of these people aren't already among the members here, but keep their mouths shut for fear of burning any bridges they might have with the community.

[Mathius]

Just as much as these sellers, I wonder where the people buying this shit at these prices are hiding out. You'd think anyone into Turbo collecting in one form or another would've found this forum.

Sometimes I wonder if some of these people aren't already among the members here, but keep their mouths shut for fear of burning any bridges they might have with the community.

You can scratch me off that list nat. If I did do that I wouldn't be able to show my face around here as much. The guilt would kill me.

[TGX16]

Just as much as these sellers, I wonder where the people buying this shit at these prices are hiding out. You'd think anyone into Turbo collecting in one form or another would've found this forum.

Sometimes I wonder if some of these people aren't already among the members here, but keep their mouths shut for fear of burning any bridges they might have with the community.

You can scratch me off that list nat. If I did do that I wouldn't be able to show my face around here as much. The guilt would kill me.

I hope all "F@ck Ebay club"  members can be writen off 
As for my self, all I can say is that some games will never end up in my collection because of those said prices...
Then again from time to time a good deal pops up like when BlueBMW offerd Shappire, another good deal I reasently did was 7 issues of Turboplay for 9.99 each (on EBAY could you belive?) !

[Mathius]

It's on sale! 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Air-Zonk-Turbo-Grafx-TG-16-Game-Good-Shape-/370471378036?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item5641d09c74

[Sparky]

I hope all "F@ck Ebay club"  members can be writen off 

i hope so as well... as with every person applying i ask for the ebay handle and look into it myself, maybe i should hire a deputy to help keep an eye on the ebay accounts of our members

[BlueBMW]

I'll admit straight up I'll bid a "fair" price on turbo / pce items on ebay, but 99 times out of 100 I don't win for that very reason   Once in a while you get lucky and get something for an acceptable price, but most of the time it gets bid up way beyond what is reasonable.

[GameFreak]

This seems like a fair price (seriously) at least compared to what they have been going for in the last few years. It was tested and works. Im sure the bids (bid) didn't go high was because seller has zero feedback. I should've grabbed this if I had a lil-more money. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250830263671&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I also like this since it has RCA jacks and a region mod done. The price seems fair with those mods if you also note it has a 6 button controller for SFII. It has a weird blue LED light in the back next to the region switch. It says its a "power light" but maybe it is a light for the region mod???
250 would be expensive if it DIDNT have RCA, region, and 6 button controller. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110698890603&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[Arkhan Asylum]

Just as much as these sellers, I wonder where the people buying this shit at these prices are hiding out. You'd think anyone into Turbo collecting in one form or another would've found this forum.

Sometimes I wonder if some of these people aren't already among the members here, but keep their mouths shut for fear of burning any bridges they might have with the community.

Some people dont do the whole forum thing because they're anti social troglodytes.

or they show up and make idiots of themselves and leave.

Also, from my experience at game conventions, some people just buy the crap up thinking they can turn a profit online or peddle it for tons of money locally/at conventions.


They dont actually know what it is theyre buying

[csgx1]

"Very Rare" Turbo Duo $775...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbo-Duo-Grafx-USA-Cd-System-Games-very-Rare-/120736039077?pt=Video_Games&hash=item1c1c6dc0a5

[DirkFunk]

"Very Rare" Turbo Duo $775...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbo-Duo-Grafx-USA-Cd-System-Games-very-Rare-/120736039077?pt=Video_Games&hash=item1c1c6dc0a5

"I really don't know if this system can play Japan games cd's,I never try this...for this info the buyer need research online forums and coments!!!
I just know this is US system and plays great US turbo cd games and Hucards!!"


I mean. . . . . . really?

[DirkFunk]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbo-Grafx-Duo-Pad-Controller-W-box-Rare-/120735150147?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item1c1c603043

IT HAS THE RECEIPT! WORTH IT!!!!!!!!

[Arkhan Asylum]

IT HAS THE RECEIPT! WORTH IT!!!!!!!!

Man if I would have given receipts for Insanity!  Roy coulda got his house JUST from selling Insanity!!!

[GameFreak]

the receipt item-
Am I the only one that thinks Babbage's is a weird store name. And it looks like they are still in business today selling video game stuff.

[DirkFunk]

the receipt item-
Am I the only one that thinks Babbage's is a weird store name. And it looks like they are still in business today selling video game stuff.

Charles Babbage is the "father" of computing.

But yes, weird name for a store regardless. I always thought it sounded strange. It kind of sounds gross.

[BlackandBlue]

Man if I would have given receipts for Insanity!  Roy coulda got his house JUST from selling Insanity!!!

Lol

[RoyVegas]

IT HAS THE RECEIPT! WORTH IT!!!!!!!!

Man if I would have given receipts for Insanity!  Roy coulda got his house JUST from selling Insanity!!!

Possibly.  But the difference is,  there's actually a demand for Duo pads. 

[DirkFunk]

IT HAS THE RECEIPT! WORTH IT!!!!!!!!

Man if I would have given receipts for Insanity!  Roy coulda got his house JUST from selling Insanity!!!

Possibly.  But the difference is,  there's actually a demand for Duo pads. 

I guess I wouldn't know. To me, controllers are meant to be used. In my mind I don't see them as collectable.

[kattare]

I collect 'em.  When one wears out, I go get one from the "collection".

[Mathius]

Holy Hell!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbo-Duo-CD-System-TurboGrafx-FACTORY-BRAND-NEW-/220798137502?pt=Video_Games&hash=item336898349e

[GameFreak]

I wonder if it comes with lifetime free caps replacement? Never mind, it still wouldn't be worth it.

[Mathius]

I wonder if it comes with lifetime free caps replacement? Never mind, it still wouldn't be worth it.

Crazy thing is people are actually buying his overpriced games stuffed in poly bags!

[GameFreak]

Maybe he has several (or several dozen) accounts to make it look like people are buying from him, and than giving himself good feedback. It is possible.

I'd rather buy a used Ducati at that price...jeeez

[BlueBMW]

but its ZOMG VGA GOLD SEALED W@W!!!  

[GameFreak]

Bluebmw- have you ever noticed a slight resemblance between our avatar/profile pictures? HAHAHAA 

[BlueBMW]

Bluebmw- have you ever noticed a slight resemblance between our avatar/profile pictures? HAHAHAA 

Hahaha!  Didn't notice, but now I will

[geise]

That's fucking sad that there's a SEALED SEALED Duo.  Looks like my box.  Great condition but not in a god damn case.  What's funny is this guy thinks that this is ok and someone will pay $5k for it.  Why is it that it's mainly the US Duo stuff that's so freaking outrageous?  I'll just never get it.  If all these people are willing to pay a premium for US stuff, where the fuck were they when it was release and on the shelves?

[alexsduo]

For $5,000 I imagine I could fly to china, and make some Duo copies, in "original boxes", maybe even 20 of them?

[CrackTiger]

That's fucking sad that there's a SEALED SEALED Duo.  Looks like my box.  Great condition but not in a god damn case.  What's funny is this guy thinks that this is ok and someone will pay $5k for it.  Why is it that it's mainly the US Duo stuff that's so freaking outrageous?  I'll just never get it.  If all these people are willing to pay a premium for US stuff, where the fuck were they when it was release and on the shelves?

They were in school or preschool.

Duo stuff is uncommon, but the number of overall titles is small, so it's very attractive to people who collect instead of play as a hobby to quickly cobble together another complete collection. It takes more money than effort to do quickly, which drives up the prices, which makes collecting Duo stuff all the more attractive to people who value items based on what other people think that they value them for.

[PunkCryborg]

That's fucking sad that there's a SEALED SEALED Duo.  Looks like my box.  Great condition but not in a god damn case.  What's funny is this guy thinks that this is ok and someone will pay $5k for it.  Why is it that it's mainly the US Duo stuff that's so freaking outrageous?  I'll just never get it.  If all these people are willing to pay a premium for US stuff, where the fuck were they when it was release and on the shelves?

They were in school or preschool.

Duo stuff is uncommon, but the number of overall titles is small, so it's very attractive to people who collect instead of play as a hobby to quickly cobble together another complete collection. It takes more money than effort to do quickly, which drives up the prices, which makes collecting Duo stuff all the more attractive to people who value items based on what other people think that they value them for.

and then the good guys like us miss out on a lot of great games cause the price is too high to afford getting them all

[GameFreak]

They were in school or preschool.

Duo stuff is uncommon, but the number of overall titles is small, so it's very attractive to people who collect instead of play as a hobby to quickly cobble together another complete collection. It takes more money than effort to do quickly, which drives up the prices, which makes collecting Duo stuff all the more attractive to people who value items based on what other people think that they value them for.

Thats crazy. you have to be an idiot not to find a boxed duo for $500 (or less). But $5000 is so F@#*#% insane. It's not that rare. C'mon!

[VestCunt]

Prices for Godzilla are a good example of what collectors have done to our hobby.

I watched this PCE copy sit around at $15 BIN for weeks before it dropped to $10 and somebody finally bought it:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=300556000272&si=4DI8S2ijFdzbSOvV%252BUWlsHBA14M%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

It's a decent game and the PCE version is even more playable than the U.S. version because you at least have some chance of unlocking all of the characters.

So yeah,
Value of Godzilla to scumsucking collectors: $100+
Value of Godzilla to actual gamers: $10

[alexsduo]

Everytime I see "gouging" I think gouge away from the Pixies, anyone else?

[Mathius]

Everytime I see "gouging" I think gouge away from the Pixies, anyone else?

Now there's a band I always meant to get into. Sadly...

[roflmao]

Awesome band.  Awesome song.  Hadn't made that connection before, but now it's inevitable.

[alexsduo]

Everytime I see "gouging" I think gouge away from the Pixies, anyone else?

Now there's a band I always meant to get into. Sadly...

There is still time Mathius! Go get Surfer Rosa, (I think Judge Mathus when I see your name, but I would rather hang out with you anyday) I love the cheap book/cd stores, you can sometimes find them there...

A new video with "Gouge Away" playing in the background and a slideshow of outrageous TG gouging?  (I have very little time, otherwise I would do such a thing), would be funny!  If no one does it, I haz dibs!!!

[blueraven]

Everytime I see "gouging" I think gouge away from the Pixies, anyone else?

Now there's a band I always meant to get into. Sadly...

I don't dig the Pixies. I've tried many times to listen to them but I just don't "get into" it.

Frank Black & The Catholics was a cool band to see live though.

[GameFreak]

Somebody is going to make a lot of money once they start producing counterfeit console boxes and custom cut styrofoam (easy to do). I never understood the whole box collecting thingy. I just wana play. "Yawn..." http://cgi.ebay.com/TURBO-GRAFX-CD-SYSTEM-100-COMPLETE-W-18-GAMES-COMPLETE-/320714110216?pt=Video_Games&hash=item4aac0cf508

[MasonSushi]

I like to get the games to play. I like the jewel cases, but don't care for the cardboard.

[VestCunt]

Somebody is going to make a lot of money once they start producing counterfeit console boxes and custom cut styrofoam (easy to do).

Yep.  Kids these days don't even know which games came without boxes and which games came without jewel cases.  Already half of the vinyl sleeves out there are the stiff, non-originals.  As custom and reprinted inserts, labels, and manuals become more common on ebay they'll get gouged left and right.

[kattare]

Maybe what needs to happen is for some cheap chineese clones to become available.  If you could clone the hucards and put 'em on ebay for $5/ea then before too long noone would be able to tell the difference and the prices would drop.  Bare minimum you keep the collectors from punishing the gamers, or the gamers from punishing themselves, all competing for limited copies.

[Dyna138]

Those eBay sellers make me sick. Looking at his feedback I see he doesn't sell many things often though and not the expensive stuff. I have enough faith in humanity that not many people if any are going to buy those games and systems for hundreds and thousands of dollars. Someone has bought a SMS brand new for $1200 though so who knows. 

[CrackTiger]

That's fucking sad that there's a SEALED SEALED Duo.  Looks like my box.  Great condition but not in a god damn case.  What's funny is this guy thinks that this is ok and someone will pay $5k for it.  Why is it that it's mainly the US Duo stuff that's so freaking outrageous?  I'll just never get it.  If all these people are willing to pay a premium for US stuff, where the fuck were they when it was release and on the shelves?

They were in school or preschool.

Duo stuff is uncommon, but the number of overall titles is small, so it's very attractive to people who collect instead of play as a hobby to quickly cobble together another complete collection. It takes more money than effort to do quickly, which drives up the prices, which makes collecting Duo stuff all the more attractive to people who value items based on what other people think that they value them for.

and then the good guys like us miss out on a lot of great games cause the price is too high to afford getting them all

As far as I know, games like Dynastic Hero and the System 3.0 card were never for sale in stores. I bought pretty much every game I wanted and all the hardware when they were new.

For all the people who say, "if only we could buy them at retail", aside from the cost in developing a time machine, 99% of all Turbo/Duo stuff is cheaper than ever.

TurboDuos were $550 here. With inflation, that's something like $850 now. Factoring in 16-year-old-in-high-school dollars, it would be the equivalent of no less than $100000 in my adult-with-a-full-time-job dollars. Games sold in Canada back in the day would be around $125 today. Add up what it would cost to buy them all new and subtract the highest prices all the games go for anywhere today. I paid between $100 - $230 for a lot of PCE and Saturn games when they were current. There was a time when I'd save up for weeks or months to buy a new game. I could buy practically any Turbo/PCE game if I saved up months worth of spare spending money today.

It sucks that original copies of anything we want aren't basically free, but the state of the Turbo/Duo collectible market is literally a dream come true for me. So much more so for PCE stuff. Especially when roms and isos are available for free. So many games were impossible to track down at the time and even for a decade after. And that was only for the tiny number of games we were even lucky enough to hear about. Now we know about everything and can try a game we just discovered within minutes.

There's never been a better time to be a Turbo/PCE fan.

[Lum]

I wouldn't at all be surprised if the American SMS slowly begins to gain value. Entering 'sega master system console' as an ebay search already brings up fewer than 2 dozen units located in USA.

[GameFreak]

CrackTiger-
With that comment, I can't tell if you are "for" or "against" the insane prices of some ebay sellers (?).  

I think it expected for some RARE-sellers to list games at $100 or consoles at $500. Just ignore them. But when it gets into the $800-$5000 range someone needs to call BS.

Anyway with that said...my best advice is to keep looking ebay for a reasonable price, and bid the MAX you are willing to pay, and be VERY reasonable with bidding, and eventually it will happen AT YOUR PRICE.

[VestCunt]

There's never been a better time to be a Turbo/PCE fan.

Black Tiger-
With that comment, I can't tell if you are "for" or "against" the insane prices of some ebay sellers (?).   

Ditto.  I can understand where you're coming from on some points - the internet is nice if you're a casual gamer and don't care about the real stuff.  But if you actually want to continue playing your system it sucks.  Better times to be a PCE fan:  2 years ago when Magical Chase was $200 instead of $600, five years ago when a functional U.S. Duo was $150, a sealed new one $500, and a broken one $40 (now $400, $2000, and $150 respectfully), or twelve years ago when there weren't any games over $100.

FYI, I understand it was rough in Canada, but Duo's were only $299 in the U.S.

[VestCunt]

I wouldn't at all be surprised if the American SMS slowly begins to gain value. Entering 'sega master system console' as an ebay search already brings up fewer than 2 dozen units located in USA.

That's nothing new, ebay have never had excessive SMS listings from U.S. sellers, but the prices are going up.  I've been trying to score cheap copies of Psycho Fox, The Flash, Moonwalker, Road Rash, and Ninja Gaiden for YEARS and the prices have continued to increase just ahead of what I'm willing to pay for them.

[nectarsis]

I wouldn't at all be surprised if the American SMS slowly begins to gain value. Entering 'sega master system console' as an ebay search already brings up fewer than 2 dozen units located in USA.

Drop console you get more hits, maybe more with other variations.