Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

turboswimbz · 08/22/2012, 09:42 AM

It's a double edged sword really:

Honestly sometimes I sit back and just marvel at it all! The market for these games is still out there and up and it really is is amazing. Yeah it'll go up and down, but there is still a demand for a system that 15 years ago most people wrote off here in the US, and I don't think it's going away any time soon. And from this stand point I really am glad, that other people think it's as cool a system as we do. It wouldn't be as much fun if we couldn't sit here and complain about the price and if there weren't some "big fish" (MC, Bonk 3, ect.) to chase or that amazing deal you find in someones garage sale -- becuase no one cared. Yeah there are a few who look to just make whatever they can off people while they can, all fads and collectables have this, but for the most part I've encountered many more who are just looking to get there games to people who want it at a fair price at that time. I hate to admit but we need the gougers . . . and beer lot's of beer.

esteban · 08/22/2012, 12:21 PM

Quote from: turboswimbz on 08/22/2012, 09:42 AM... The market for these games is still out there and up and it really is is amazing. Yeah it'll go up and down, but there is still a demand for a system that 15 20 years ago most people wrote off here in the US, and I don't think it's going away any time soon.

VestCunt · 08/22/2012, 01:39 PM

Quote from: turboswimbz on 08/22/2012, 09:42 AMI hate to admit but we need the gougers . . .

How so? Couldn't gamers and collectors sell to each other without price-inflating parasites?

turboswimbz · 08/22/2012, 02:47 PM

Quote from: guest on 08/22/2012, 01:39 PM
Quote from: turboswimbz on 08/22/2012, 09:42 AMI hate to admit but we need the gougers . . .
How so? Couldn't gamers and collectors sell to each other without price-inflating parasites?

In a utopia sure. In the real world no. there would always be someone looking for a little more. there always is. It wouldn't be very much fun if it was, hey i need _ _ _ _ here's $5 oh yeah completed my set which everyone has. It's the challenge that makes it addicting. It's the difference between climbing a hill and a mountain. I'm sure people will have diffrent thoughts on this, but I'm with esteban on this, it's cool that there is intrest in the system! it's been a great surprise of my life to find out that a lot of people really enjoy TG16/TE/TD.

But I think what your getting at is this : What we don't need is the people who don't research and find out what things are worth (i wouldn't call these gougers per say, more like opprutunist, let me put this here at $$$ and see if anyone will buy it)
because they start their auctions off way to high, and the second set who do poor research base their prices off these listings, followed by idiots who don't research and buy the stuff at those increased prices, just because it's the only one on e-bay, when they could find it with a bit of searching for the right price.

All That being said Screw the A-hole who had an NEC TG16 power supply up for $50 on E-bay.

BigusSchmuck · 08/22/2012, 04:22 PM

What still amazes me that we although we have had pc engine/turbo grafx emulation now for what 15 years now? You would think prices would go down on some of these items. Instead we are seeing the opposite, if anything this shows in this case that piracy really doesn't have an effect on the prices of the actual media.

VestCunt · 08/22/2012, 06:24 PM

Quote from: turboswimbz on 08/22/2012, 02:47 PMIn a utopia sure. In the real world no. there would always be someone looking for a little more. there always is. It wouldn't be very much fun if it was, hey i need _ _ _ _ here's $5 oh yeah completed my set which everyone has. It's the challenge that makes it addicting. It's the difference between climbing a hill and a mountain. I'm sure people will have diffrent thoughts on this, but I'm with esteban on this, it's cool that there is intrest in the system! it's been a great surprise of my life to find out that a lot of people really enjoy TG16/TE/TD.

So, your pro-gouger argument is: paying an inflated price = more fun?

Yes, since the beginning of time, humanity has striven to spend money. Wealth squandered has been the measuring stick by which all great men aspire. Nothing says "accomplishment" like blowing $200 on a toy; indeed, there is no hurdle in life greater than obtaining a CIB Magical Chase...

That's funny, because I found the Turbografx to be pretty fun and addicting before gougers came on the scene.

Gouger sympathizers don't last long in this thread. Take a hike.

DildoKKKobold · 08/22/2012, 06:32 PM

Quote from: VestCunt on 08/22/2012, 06:24 PMGouger sympathizers don't last long in this thread. Take a hike.

Don't mind VestCunt. He's an angry little man. Look at his posting history - nearly every other post is incredibly angry.

Also, who cares if some idiot posts an overpriced power adapter? It won't sell. And on the off chance that it does sell to some retard, who cares? "An idiot and his money are soon parted."

turboswimbz · 08/22/2012, 06:38 PM

your missing the point, it takes all people to make the world go round, I just don't think there is ever going to be a time when there isn't gouging. However with demand so high there is bound to me a lot of them out there at this point. give it some time and the prices will come down again. I'm just saying that if everyone in the world had a complete collection, It would lose something. And it is what makes things so addicting to people. not everyone but for many it will. And your right it was fun before the prices hit all time highs, but back then certain games still went for a higher price, and many people complained about it. I've found that it is easy enough to advoid the gougers and let others waste thier time with them.
So my point is why get so upset at them?

BigusSchmuck · 08/22/2012, 07:01 PM

Quote from: turboswimbz on 08/22/2012, 06:38 PMyour missing the point, it takes all people to make the world go round, I just don't think there is ever going to be a time when there isn't gouging. However with demand so high there is bound to me a lot of them out there at this point. give it some time and the prices will come down again. I'm just saying that if everyone in the world had a complete collection, It would lose something. And it is what makes things so addicting to people. not everyone but for many it will. And your right it was fun before the prices hit all time highs, but back then certain games still went for a higher price, and many people complained about it. I've found that it is easy enough to advoid the gougers and let others waste thier time with them.
So my point is why get so upset at them?

Because we have emulators for 15 years and there really isn't a rhyme or reason why prices should go so freaking high. If anything it should come down as there are a hell of a lot more people who have pcs vs turbo/pce systems and thats not counting other consoles that emulate tg16/pce games.

VestCunt · 08/22/2012, 07:07 PM

swimbz - You expressed frustration with gougers in your introduction post, and again when you were looking for a U.S. Duo, and again with the AC adapter, so I think you know why we get upset with them.

Obviously, life's too short to get bent out of shape about every asshole on the internet. It's fun to bitch about ebay gougers from here on the sidelines, but my main gripe is when they signup here on the forums. They ask us for help, repairs, estimates, collection advice, and buy our stuff, all the while writing down amounts paid so they don't "take a loss" when they invariably sell their collection two months later. In short: gougers are one thing, but I reserve a special corner in hell for forum members that capitalize on goodwill.

SignOfZeta · 08/22/2012, 08:50 PM

Quote from: guest on 08/22/2012, 01:39 PM
Quote from: turboswimbz on 08/22/2012, 09:42 AMI hate to admit but we need the gougers . . .
How so? Couldn't gamers and collectors sell to each other without price-inflating parasites?

Would we have a 200+ page thread devoted to any other topic?

JapanTokei · 08/22/2012, 09:35 PM

On this topic, yes today the games are getting a lot of interest from the gaugers esp the us th games.. I look back at end of the the tg duos life and when the second wind started to hit was around 1996 1997.. Back then Dracula x was going for 185 consistently and Macross 2036 75 bucks and sapphire 500-600 with Circus lido in the 400s. Any pcs title would get bids on eBay then, even games like rom rom stadium. To me back then the prices across all were higher, bit the us versions were lower. Now we have the us versions being collected and the jp versions have had its course and people are famililar with pretty much all the titles so the pricing are selective to the key titles while the rest are pretty much 5 to 15 bargain bins. So my point is - the tg market is like the internet bubble. Back then everything was gaining interest. Today its the big hitters that rule the (resale) market. And U get occasional regards that try to scam newbies... Mix in inflation we see mm3 and terraforming near 300, cotton bouncing all over the place, dynastic hero still steady at 500 to 600, DE2 around 175, and haven't seen MC or beyondshadowgate recently on evil bay to comment but I think it hasn't changed.

turboswimbz · 08/22/2012, 10:07 PM

Quote from: guest on 08/22/2012, 07:07 PMswimbz - You expressed frustration with gougers in your introduction post, and again when you were looking for a U.S. Duo, and again with the AC adapter, so I think you know why we get upset with them.

Obviously, life's too short to get bent out of shape about every asshole on the internet. It's fun to bitch about ebay gougers from here on the sidelines, but my main gripe is when they signup here on the forums. They ask us for help, repairs, estimates, collection advice, and buy our stuff, all the while writing down amounts paid so they don't "take a loss" when they invariably sell their collection two months later. In short: gougers are one thing, but I reserve a special corner in hell for forum members that capitalize on goodwill.

Seriously we all know how i feel about them, just seeing it from the other side, LOL. I don't like the dark side. Just meant as a bit of convo. I knew it would get people talking. I honestly don't think that we need them. and I'm not talking about the collectors who want mint and those who are here today gone tomorrow players. I think like you, I'm talking about those who honestly want to take advantage of the situation purely for there own profit, resellers, especially those who don't care for the system, like guy i bought the TG16 I'm selling from, who didn't know a thing about the system other than it went for a lot online, and wouldn't take a dollar less than $80.

If there is one great thing about all of this,

There is a place like this, with people like vest who keep the real spirit of the turbo alive.
Always a silver lining!

anyway sorry for being a bit polarizing. Didn't mean for it to be anything else other than a conversation piece.

As a side note, could we cut them out? I was actually thinking about it, I kinda like that world. a Utopia or dare I say Neutopia of sorts?

turboswimbz · 08/22/2012, 10:16 PM

oh by the way. regarding recent topics. thank you to everyone here. It's been a big help with everything!

now let's rip some more people for being gougers!

tggodfrey · 08/22/2012, 10:38 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180953020405?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Are you kidding me? Nintendo Players guide for 30.00? These sell all day long on even egay for 8.00. People are beyond rediculous.

Terry

VestCunt · 08/23/2012, 12:35 AM

Quote from: JapanTokei on 08/22/2012, 09:35 PMwhen the second wind started to hit was around 1996 1997.. Back then Dracula x was going for 185 consistently and Macross 2036 75 bucks and sapphire 500-600 with Circus lido in the 400s. Any pcs title would get bids on eBay then, even games like rom rom stadium. To me back then the prices across all were higher, bit the us versions were lower.

These price fluctuations aren't natural ups and downs because there were a completely different set of factors driving prices back then. First, the internet was really taking off in the mid-to-late Nineties. For the first time, gamers were a Yahoo search away from ebay and TZD; no longer did they have to comb the pages of EGM and call the handful of import specialists like Die Hard. Hence, import prices were high for the same reason new consoles command a premium at launch - it was the PCE's introduction to the North American market.

Admittedly, the TG was still an unpopular niche console and demand was fairly low for both TG and PCE games, but the supply of imports was even lower. Dracula X didn't drop in price because gamers are any less obsessed with, it dropped because the number of Japanese sellers on ebay increased and after ten years everyone finally realized that it's a common game. Circus Lido didn't drop because collectors thinned out, it dropped because a pallet of unopened copies was discovered. And a genuine Sapphire still sells for hundreds of dollars.

Don't get me wrong, I paid $60 for ACD Fatal Fury in 1997 and it sucked, but what we have now is worse. The only price drops we've seen have been because of increased supply and distribution. Demand has done nothing but increase. Unless someone finds untapped markets or more lost pallets, nothing is going to change.

wilykat · 08/23/2012, 01:08 AM

Quote from: tggodfrey on 08/22/2012, 10:38 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/180953020405?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Are you kidding me? Nintendo Players guide for 30.00? These sell all day long on even egay for 8.00. People are beyond rediculous.

Terry

Do those $8 guide still have original sticker sheet intact? Maybe that'd drive the price up?

JapanTokei · 08/23/2012, 08:20 AM

agreed but also to add more on this topic:
I forgot to mention back then Strider ACD went for $175 to $200 (I think I even saw it hit $300 a few times in fall of 1998) on evilbay.. mega RPG hits like Popful Mail and Seiya Monogatari were also $125 titles.. now these gems can be had for <$50 and Strider around $60-70.. so for me, since I don't really collect TG-version games, (unless I want the English versions, ie RPGs like DE2, menus in Bloody Wolf, Cadash etc), I still think the market has gotten more affordable!!

The reverse has happened to the TG versions now though. i think back then no one wanted US version of system card 3.0s.. and Ys were easily had for $15.. now people are hoarding these like no tomorrow. Ys I understand, it's the best game ever made imo, but US system card 3? WTF..

man, can you guys believe the late nineties is now already like 15 years ago?? fock time flies!! what a trip down memory lane.

Quote from: guest on 08/23/2012, 12:35 AM
Quote from: JapanTokei on 08/22/2012, 09:35 PMwhen the second wind started to hit was around 1996 1997.. Back then Dracula x was going for 185 consistently and Macross 2036 75 bucks and sapphire 500-600 with Circus lido in the 400s. Any pcs title would get bids on eBay then, even games like rom rom stadium. To me back then the prices across all were higher, bit the us versions were lower.
These price fluctuations aren't natural ups and downs because there were a completely different set of factors driving prices back then. First, the internet was really taking off in the mid-to-late Nineties. For the first time, gamers were a Yahoo search away from ebay and TZD; no longer did they have to comb the pages of EGM and call the handful of import specialists like Die Hard. Hence, import prices were high for the same reason new consoles command a premium at launch - it was the PCE's introduction to the North American market.

Admittedly, the TG was still an unpopular niche console and demand was fairly low for both TG and PCE games, but the supply of imports was even lower. Dracula X didn't drop in price because gamers are any less obsessed with, it dropped because the number of Japanese sellers on ebay increased and after ten years everyone finally realized that it's a common game. Circus Lido didn't drop because collectors thinned out, it dropped because a pallet of unopened copies was discovered. And a genuine Sapphire still sells for hundreds of dollars.

Don't get me wrong, I paid $60 for ACD Fatal Fury in 1997 and it sucked, but what we have now is worse. The only price drops we've seen have been because of increased supply and distribution. Demand has done nothing but increase. Unless someone finds untapped markets or more lost pallets, nothing is going to change.

NecroPhile · 08/23/2012, 10:51 AM

Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 08/22/2012, 06:32 PMAlso, who cares if some idiot posts an overpriced power adapter? It won't sell. And on the off chance that it does sell to some retard, who cares? "An idiot and his money are soon parted."

We care, obviously. The point of this thread is abundantly clear from the title, so get the fuck out if its subject doesn't interest you.

Quote from: turboswimbz on 08/22/2012, 10:07 PMJust meant as a bit of convo. I knew it would get people talking..... Didn't mean for it to be anything else other than a conversation piece.

Yeah, 'get people talking' after 200 pages (and 200 more from the deleted thread) and a clown of the week popping in to tell us that we shouldn't care about gouging or that gouging doesn't exist. Thanks for nothing.

CrackTiger · 08/23/2012, 12:29 PM

QuoteThe reverse has happened to the TG versions now though. i think back then no one wanted US version of system card 3.0s.. and Ys were easily had for $15.. now people are hoarding these like no tomorrow. Ys I understand, it's the best game ever made imo, but US system card 3? WTF..

man, can you guys believe the late nineties is now already like 15 years ago?? fock time flies!! what a trip down memory lane.

I agree that games in general are way cheaper abd I am happy as a buyer, but I ron't look at Turbo stuff as being the reverse. I paid $60 - $70 for games like JJ & Jeff, Tiger Road, Ninja Spirit, Bonk's Revenge, etc, $400 for a TG-16, $550 for a Turbo Express, $1200+ fir a Turbo CD, $100 - $159 a pop for games like Golden Axe, Side Arms Special, Super Darius, Cyber City OEDO 808, etc. I was happy with most of my purchases then and the deals today are unbelieveable.

JapanTokei · 08/23/2012, 01:25 PM

wow BT - you spend 1200 on a TG+CD, 400 for TG-16? when was this?

Quote from: guest on 08/23/2012, 12:29 PM
QuoteThe reverse has happened to the TG versions now though. i think back then no one wanted US version of system card 3.0s.. and Ys were easily had for $15.. now people are hoarding these like no tomorrow. Ys I understand, it's the best game ever made imo, but US system card 3? WTF..

man, can you guys believe the late nineties is now already like 15 years ago?? fock time flies!! what a trip down memory lane.
I agree that games in general are way cheaper abd I am happy as a buyer, but I ron't look at Turbo stuff as being the reverse. I paid $60 - $70 for games like JJ & Jeff, Tiger Road, Ninja Spirit, Bonk's Revenge, etc, $400 for a TG-16, $550 for a Turbo Express, $1200+ fir a Turbo CD, $100 - $159 a pop for games like Golden Axe, Side Arms Special, Super Darius, Cyber City OEDO 808, etc. I was happy with most of my purchases then and the deals today are unbelieveable.

Mathius · 08/23/2012, 01:27 PM

Quote from: JapanTokei on 08/23/2012, 01:25 PMwow BT - you spend 1200 on a TG+CD, 400 for TG-16? when was this?

Quote from: guest on 08/23/2012, 12:29 PM
QuoteThe reverse has happened to the TG versions now though. i think back then no one wanted US version of system card 3.0s.. and Ys were easily had for $15.. now people are hoarding these like no tomorrow. Ys I understand, it's the best game ever made imo, but US system card 3? WTF..

man, can you guys believe the late nineties is now already like 15 years ago?? fock time flies!! what a trip down memory lane.
I agree that games in general are way cheaper abd I am happy as a buyer, but I ron't look at Turbo stuff as being the reverse. I paid $60 - $70 for games like JJ & Jeff, Tiger Road, Ninja Spirit, Bonk's Revenge, etc, $400 for a TG-16, $550 for a Turbo Express, $1200+ fir a Turbo CD, $100 - $159 a pop for games like Golden Axe, Side Arms Special, Super Darius, Cyber City OEDO 808, etc. I was happy with most of my purchases then and the deals today are unbelieveable.

No kidding!

I got my Turbo CD back in '09 for $150 w/ case.

wilykat · 08/23/2012, 01:42 PM

USA Y's III for $2,000!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ys-III-Wanderers-from-Ys-TurboGrafx-CD-1991-New-Rare-Sealed-/150886073085?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item232182c2fd#ht_500wt_1414

A real steal. Buy it, get it VGA graded, then resell for $20,000!!!

PS not mine, I wouldn't keep anything sealed.

DragonmasterDan · 08/23/2012, 02:38 PM

I spent 80.00 or so for Tengai Makyou II in the late 90s before many Japanese sellers used ebay. While PCE prices aren't at their lowest, they're much lower than they once were.

BigusSchmuck · 08/23/2012, 07:34 PM

Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 08/23/2012, 02:38 PMI spent 80.00 or so for Tengai Makyou II in the late 90s before many Japanese sellers used ebay. While PCE prices aren't at their lowest, they're much lower than they once were.

Agreed. I paid close to $70 for Dragon Ball Z when it first came out and now it can be had for around $20. Needless to say most PCE games are still pretty cheap compared to where they were at in the 90s. Hell, I still remember when I first saw Dracula X for $150 back in 98 and I about shit myself. Now days we can get it for half that.

JapanTokei · 08/24/2012, 05:33 AM

lol, I had Dragonball Z too back them and sold it for exactly $75 cuz I thought it wasn't all that great ! now people can't give that away for $20.. that was one title I thought could have been AMAZING but the battle system kinda let me down.. then again pretty much all DBZ games fighting systems were wacky. I actually thought the NES/Famicom RPG version was the best DBZ game made!

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 08/23/2012, 07:34 PM
Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 08/23/2012, 02:38 PMI spent 80.00 or so for Tengai Makyou II in the late 90s before many Japanese sellers used ebay. While PCE prices aren't at their lowest, they're much lower than they once were.
Agreed. I paid close to $70 for Dragon Ball Z when it first came out and now it can be had for around $20. Needless to say most PCE games are still pretty cheap compared to where they were at in the 90s. Hell, I still remember when I first saw Dracula X for $150 back in 98 and I about shit myself. Now days we can get it for half that.

JapanTokei · 08/24/2012, 05:40 AM

BLAZING Lasers NEW for $50 bucks!! (except the seller's "New" copy somehow has no box? lol)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLAZING-LASERS-TURBO-GRAFX-BRAND-NEW-/370525338947?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item564507fd43#ht_500wt_969

DragonmasterDan · 08/24/2012, 08:26 AM

Quote from: JapanTokei on 08/24/2012, 05:40 AMBLAZING Lasers NEW for $50 bucks!! (except the seller's "New" copy somehow has no box? lol)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLAZING-LASERS-TURBO-GRAFX-BRAND-NEW-/370525338947?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item564507fd43#ht_500wt_969

It came from a European TurboGrafx system. So there was no outer box with it.

JapanTokei · 08/24/2012, 12:15 PM

wow, how did you know that? was this Blazing lasers a pack in for UK systems? very interesting.

Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 08/24/2012, 08:26 AM
Quote from: JapanTokei on 08/24/2012, 05:40 AMBLAZING Lasers NEW for $50 bucks!! (except the seller's "New" copy somehow has no box? lol)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLAZING-LASERS-TURBO-GRAFX-BRAND-NEW-/370525338947?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item564507fd43#ht_500wt_969
It came from a European TurboGrafx system. So there was no outer box with it.

DragonmasterDan · 08/24/2012, 12:57 PM

Quote from: JapanTokei on 08/24/2012, 12:15 PMow, how did you know that? was this Blazing lasers a pack in for UK systems? very interesting.

Yeah, it was the pack-in for at least the UK distributed PAL systems. I've heard the ones from Spain came with Alien Crush. But I'm not 100% on the Spain ones

CrackTiger · 08/24/2012, 01:05 PM

My PAL TurboGrafx came new from the UK packed with Alien Crush.

DragonmasterDan · 08/24/2012, 01:08 PM

Quote from: guest on 08/24/2012, 01:05 PMMy PAL TurboGrafx came new from the UK packed with Alien Crush.

Interesting, most of the ones I've seen came with Blazing Lazers. I'm guessing it was jewel case, manual and card only just like the Blazing Lazer packed systems?

Xray · 08/24/2012, 10:43 PM

Turbo Duo CD System TurboGrafx [ FACTORY BRAND NEW ] + 95 GOLD LEVEL @ VGQuality

$4,800 [Free shipping !]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbo-Duo-CD-System-TurboGrafx-FACTORY-BRAND-NEW-95-GOLD-LEVEL-VGQuality-/320969719174

Sparky · 08/25/2012, 09:05 AM

Quote from: Xray on 08/24/2012, 10:43 PMTurbo Duo CD System TurboGrafx [ FACTORY BRAND NEW ] + 95 GOLD LEVEL @ VGQuality

$4,800 [Free shipping !]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbo-Duo-CD-System-TurboGrafx-FACTORY-BRAND-NEW-95-GOLD-LEVEL-VGQuality-/320969719174

Good god.... This is on my projects to do list... Come up with a kit I would give out to the f-eBay crew that would be a mock of this VG bullshit...it would have stickers ( of coarse

) and some sealable freezer bags for your video game freshness...

. hope to have them late this fall as this VG stuff really is laughable.

esteban · 08/25/2012, 09:10 AM

Quote from: JapanTokei on 08/23/2012, 01:25 PMwow BT - you spend 1200 on a TG+CD, 400 for TG-16? when was this?

Quote from: guest on 08/23/2012, 12:29 PM
QuoteThe reverse has happened to the TG versions now though. i think back then no one wanted US version of system card 3.0s.. and Ys were easily had for $15.. now people are hoarding these like no tomorrow. Ys I understand, it's the best game ever made imo, but US system card 3? WTF..

man, can you guys believe the late nineties is now already like 15 years ago?? fock time flies!! what a trip down memory lane.
I agree that games in general are way cheaper abd I am happy as a buyer, but I ron't look at Turbo stuff as being the reverse. I paid $60 - $70 for games like JJ & Jeff, Tiger Road, Ninja Spirit, Bonk's Revenge, etc, $400 for a TG-16, $550 for a Turbo Express, $1200+ fir a Turbo CD, $100 - $159 a pop for games like Golden Axe, Side Arms Special, Super Darius, Cyber City OEDO 808, etc. I was happy with most of my purchases then and the deals today are unbelieveable.

IIRC:

I think that CrackTiger got slammed with higher prices/fees since he lives in the the (Not So) Great North. Canada.

However, later (if I'm not mistaken) he also has (had?) amazing local import shops that offered a wealth of games for decent prices. So, he initially got screwed on brand-new retail items, but then later reaped the gems from a thriving import market.

I'm writing his biography in the next few months. Is there anything else you want to know?

turboswimbz · 08/25/2012, 12:34 PM

Quote from: guest on 08/25/2012, 09:05 AM
Quote from: Xray on 08/24/2012, 10:43 PMTurbo Duo CD System TurboGrafx [ FACTORY BRAND NEW ] + 95 GOLD LEVEL @ VGQuality

$4,800 [Free shipping !]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbo-Duo-CD-System-TurboGrafx-FACTORY-BRAND-NEW-95-GOLD-LEVEL-VGQuality-/320969719174
Good god.... This is on my projects to do list... Come up with a kit I would give out to the f-eBay crew that would be a mock of this VG bullshit...it would have stickers ( of coarse ) and some sealable freezer bags for your video game freshness... . hope to have them late this fall as this VG stuff really is laughable.

LOL. haha. Can it be called VD instead of VG?

CrackTiger · 08/25/2012, 01:42 PM

Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 08/24/2012, 01:08 PM
Quote from: CrackTiger on 08/24/2012, 01:05 PMMy PAL TurboGrafx came new from the UK packed with Alien Crush.
Interesting, most of the ones I've seen came with Blazing Lazers. I'm guessing it was jewel case, manual and card only just like the Blazing Lazer packed systems?

No, I never heard of jewel cases or manuals being included for years and think that sellers are just tossing them in. I think that there was no official pack-in for system, only some OEM games that were or were not randomly packed with these test market units. I believe that all those "NOS" card-only listings on eBay were actually intended for promotional use. My game was packed underneath the console and came with photocopies of the manual.

turboswimbz · 08/25/2012, 02:13 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-In-Box-NEC-TurboGrafx-16-Black-Console-NTSC-/110938652722?pt=Video_Games&hash=item19d4758032

Hey guys the seller dosen't want you to miss out on this great deal
$500 TG16 new in box.

what a tool.

Mathius · 08/25/2012, 02:44 PM

Quote from: turboswimbz on 08/25/2012, 02:13 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/New-In-Box-NEC-TurboGrafx-16-Black-Console-NTSC-/110938652722?pt=Video_Games&hash=item19d4758032

Hey guys the seller dosen't want you to miss out on this great deal
$500 TG16 new in box.

what a tool.

You know, for a brand new TG16 I'd think it would have been much much more than that.

turboswimbz · 08/25/2012, 03:25 PM

Quote from: Mathius on 08/25/2012, 02:44 PM
Quote from: turboswimbz on 08/25/2012, 02:13 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/New-In-Box-NEC-TurboGrafx-16-Black-Console-NTSC-/110938652722?pt=Video_Games&hash=item19d4758032

Hey guys the seller dosen't want you to miss out on this great deal
$500 TG16 new in box.

what a tool.
You know, for a brand new TG16 I'd think it would have been much much more than that.

I guess you could justify it that way, but there are a few others up recently that claim to be new for around the $200-$250, While this is the nicests I've seen, and I'm sure whoever buys it will go the VG route. I can't justify the idea of this thing being worth $500 to sit on a shelf.

Mathius · 08/25/2012, 06:58 PM

Quote from: turboswimbz on 08/25/2012, 03:25 PM
Quote from: Mathius on 08/25/2012, 02:44 PM
Quote from: turboswimbz on 08/25/2012, 02:13 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/New-In-Box-NEC-TurboGrafx-16-Black-Console-NTSC-/110938652722?pt=Video_Games&hash=item19d4758032

Hey guys the seller dosen't want you to miss out on this great deal
$500 TG16 new in box.

what a tool.
You know, for a brand new TG16 I'd think it would have been much much more than that.
I guess you could justify it that way, but there are a few others up recently that claim to be new for around the $200-$250, While this is the nicests I've seen, and I'm sure whoever buys it will go the VG route. I can't justify the idea of this thing being worth $500 to sit on a shelf.

I hope someone around here will snag it to save it from a VGA'd future. That puppy needs to be played! It doesn't need to spend its life on a shelf.

bob · 08/25/2012, 10:15 PM

Isn't it actually worse for these things to be sitting around all these years and never turned on?

turboswimbz · 08/25/2012, 10:21 PM

I know others share this hatred. But I really Really hate Video Game Quality, basically they say hmmm box is okay, artwork is okay, slap an acrylic case around it, put it in a plastic bag and say it's collectable. thier qualifications are being into video games since the 80's. BY THAT STANDARD most of us are qualified to grade video games. ALL we need is some plastic and a grading system.

I just don't get it. I never fully understood it with trading cards either. IDK just seems like it takes the fun out of it. I can see it from the other side, I understand the thrill of collecting, however it's just not the same as getting several of your buds together in a basement growing up and playing bomberman, goldeneye, ect. or meeting at something octurbofest, to actually play games.

CrackTiger · 08/26/2012, 12:18 PM

$120 for Final Zone II

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Final-Zone-II-2-NEC-TurboGrafx-16-CD-Turbo-Grafx-Pristine-Mint-COMPLETE-/261079226380?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item3cc988d80c

Anybody else receive a brand new copy with a giant UPC sticker on the back?

"EVERYTHING IS IN PRISTINE/MINT CONDITION" = "Original jewel case does have minor flaws ( a few minor scratches) and minor usage on the tab piece." + huge ugly sticker on case.

NecroPhile · 08/27/2012, 11:38 AM

Quote from: CrackTiger on 08/26/2012, 12:18 PMAnybody else receive a brand new copy with a giant UPC sticker on the back?

Not on FZII or any other title bought new, not on the case anyhow. I have, however, bought a few (both boxed and later unboxed titles) that had stickers on the outer shrinkwrap.

VestCunt · 08/27/2012, 03:46 PM

I've seen official stickers under the shrinkwrap on sealed boxes (Falcon, Darkwing Duck, Ys III) and cases (Cotton), but never on internal packaging and they never looked anything like that. I also have a number of French-Canadian games and I've never seen stickers like that. And it looks like the game has a black tray rather than the standard white that came with most copies of Final Zone II. I'd say this copy has changed hands a few times and was "refurbished" somewhere along the way.

NecroPhile · 08/27/2012, 04:47 PM

This one looks familiar, so sorry if it's been posted before: a pretty well beat up TG-CD box with inserts for a steal at only $299.95 with free shipping!

turboswimbz · 08/27/2012, 05:03 PM

Quote from: guest on 08/27/2012, 04:47 PMThis one looks familiar, so sorry if it's been posted before: a pretty well beat up TG-CD box with inserts for a steal at only $299.95 with free shipping!

you can be sure any seller that has gamer and store in there name is charging a heck of a lot for this stuff. Wonder what he'd charge for duo box?

esteban · 08/27/2012, 05:07 PM

Quote from: guest on 08/27/2012, 04:47 PMThis one looks familiar, so sorry if it's been posted before: a pretty well beat up TG-CD box with inserts for a steal at only $299.95 with free shipping!

It's worth $200 simply for the "Chuck's--Old Boxes Inside" note written in red pen on the side panel of the box!

turboswimbz · 08/27/2012, 05:16 PM

Ys bookI & II @ $70

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ys-Book-I-II-Turbo-Grafx-16-CD-Turbo-duo-Complete-Excellent-Condition-/330671204465?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item4cfd8a2871