Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

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PunkCryborg


Flare65

I think the only ones who are making money are the ones doing the grading.  Personally, I buy games to play and enjoy.  I wouldn't get any enjoyment out of owning something sealed up in a box that is unplayable. 

Has anyone here ever purchased anything that was graded?

FiftyQuid

What do you do with the package once you take the game out of it?
I'm busy playing pinball, but I still drop by to visit.

CrackTiger

Quote from: PunkCryborg on 12/17/2012, 10:38 PMyeah who buys that shit anyways?
Apparently no one is. :P How is this guy going to make a reasonable profit off of his investment?



Quote from: FiftyQuid on 12/17/2012, 10:47 PMWhat do you do with the package once you take the game out of it?
You don't understand collectibles at all. The whole point of collecting games is to keep them protected inside of their sealed tamper-proof cases.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

DildoKKKobold

Quote from: FiftyQuid on 12/17/2012, 10:47 PMWhat do you do with the package once you take the game out of it?
LOL, they don't take the game out.

Man, this place is the POLAR OPPOSITE of NintendoAge.

Here is a 4000+ post-long thread showing off their VGA games.

http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=19073

Personally, I think that VGA-grading is the silliest part of video game collecting. When the market crashes, which it all-but is guaranteed to, the people who paid for these are the ones who are going to be left holding the bag, so to speak. 10s of thousands of dollars invested in unplayable games.... that I just can't imagine will really retain value.


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Hahaha Nice... I finally agree with serious sally (( high five))

turboswimbz

NW: Hey, I made it on this psycho's Enemies' List, how about that ?? ;)
BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere. You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

bob

Quote from: guest on 12/18/2012, 12:56 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Darkwing-Duck-TurboGrafx-16-1992-/140897573037

No turbostars or VGA?  Despite the greatness of this game, I'd only be willing to pay this much for an officially graded auction...
LOL Darkwing Duck.

MotherGunner

Quote from: galam on 12/18/2012, 05:33 PM
Quote from: guest on 12/18/2012, 12:56 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Darkwing-Duck-TurboGrafx-16-1992-/140897573037

No turbostars or VGA?  Despite the greatness of this game, I'd only be willing to pay this much for an officially graded auction...
LOL Darkwing Duck.
Why did I just read this with Bucci's manly voice?  <=)
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FiftyQuid

Quote from: guest on 12/17/2012, 11:02 PMYou don't understand collectibles at all. The whole point of collecting games is to keep them protected inside of their sealed tamper-proof cases.
Why don't they just dip the shit in carbonite and get it over with?
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turboswimbz

Quote from: FiftyQuid on 12/18/2012, 11:05 PM
Quote from: guest on 12/17/2012, 11:02 PMYou don't understand collectibles at all. The whole point of collecting games is to keep them protected inside of their sealed tamper-proof cases.
Why don't they just dip the shit in carbonite and get it over with?
A+ star wars reference.
NW: Hey, I made it on this psycho's Enemies' List, how about that ?? ;)
BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere. You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

NightWolve

#3662
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sirhcman

#3663
Looks like our buddy plcards is at it again...

"Sold" this item to himself since the bid didn't get up high enough: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Parasol-Stars-TurboGrafx-16-1991-Complete-Box-Rare-TG-TG16-Duo-/121027407438

Relists the item today with Buy It Now/Best Offer once it fell off his ebay "sold" history: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Parasol-Stars-TurboGrafx-16-1991-Complete-In-Box-TG-TG16-Duo-/121041203300?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item1c2e9e3064

FYI: He is now using a new name to shill bid his stuff up but I haven't figured it out yet.. the ebay hidden name is n***n (137). I guess after he was outed last time he changed names and smartly he isn't leaving himself shill feedback anymore so to cover his tracks.

All of the bidding history on that account is to plcards own auctions (copy and paste link, hyperlink doesnt work):
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidderProfile&mode=1&item=121027407438&aid=n***n&eu=ruennMDeG7MoQl9fft72ZqmyB69TyRaY&view=NONE&ssPageName=PageBidderProfileViewBids_None_ViewLink

I reported the auction to ebay



Brief history of plcards:

QuoteQuote from: sirhcman on October 16, 2012, 11:16:55 AM
Quote from: FiftyQuid on October 16, 2012, 10:56:54 AM
Quote from: sirhcman on October 16, 2012, 10:09:10 AM
Shill bidding has begun on the below auction auction. plcards is using his other name (cars856) to jack up price. cars856 is currently the high bidder. I recommend all my compatriots in this thread report the item for shill bidding!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dynastic-Hero-TurboGrafx-16-Complete-TG-TG16-Turbo-Duo-/140866196637?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item20cc47949d

Report item here: http://ocs.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ReportItemMember&items=140866196637&seller=plcards&active=1&state=1

Category: Listing practices
Reason for Report: Fraudulent listing activities
Detailed Reason: Seller is using other accounts to inflate item price

Where do you see cars856?  I see 5***5 as the highest bidder.  c*****6 is nowhere to be seen.


You can't see it but if you look at other auctions cars856 has won off plcards you can conclude it.

c****6 would not be what his hidden name is on there. cars856 name is hidden with 5***5. My name is sirhcman on ebay and when I make a bid mine is hidden with the following: i***a

plcards name is hidden on bids with c***d

If you look at this item (http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=120995198405) you can see that plcards sold it to 5***5. If you look at plcards feedback (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=plcards&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=140866196637&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller) you can see it matches to the second item which was won by cars856


cars856 has been bidding on rc vehicles, football cards, and turbo games all being sold by plcards. Of cars856 bids over the past 30 days 84% of them have been to plcards account. With these factors, the 5***5 hidden name, the feedback for i****a being the same as cars856 it is stands to reason that it is one in the same.

plcards sold baby formula to cars856 even.. http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=140806008209
August 28th feedback: http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=cars856&ftab=FeedbackLeftForOthers

Lastly cars856 "sold" a fatboy front fender on ebay to plcards. It would be a lot of amazing coincidences if this wasn't shill bidding. Second item on the following link: http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=cars856&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller

Be aware that plcards also opened up this account tp60000 and has started buying and selling under that name as well. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=tp60000&ftab=AllFeedback&rt=nc

At the very least it could be 2 people working together but my suspicion it is one person. You can have two different names/addresses tied to each account and can even proxy or spoof your ip to make sure one isn't the same as the other. Either way it is shill bidding in my opinion and I believe the auction I spoke about prior should be reported.

Hopefully all the gibberish above makes sense. If you guys don't approve that this should be in the ebay gouging thread I will delete, I just feel it my duty to help the thread rid ebay of this shill bidding crap on our beloved turbos.

DildoKKKobold

#3664
Quote from: guest on 12/19/2012, 02:58 PMLooks like our buddy plcards is at it again...

"Sold" this item to himself since the bid didn't get up high enough: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Parasol-Stars-TurboGrafx-16-1991-Complete-Box-Rare-TG-TG16-Duo-/121027407438

Relists the item today with Buy It Now/Best Offer once it fell off his ebay "sold" history: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Parasol-Stars-TurboGrafx-16-1991-Complete-In-Box-TG-TG16-Duo-/121041203300?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item1c2e9e3064

FYI: He is now using a new name to shill bid his stuff up but I haven't figured it out yet.. the ebay hidden name is n***n (137). I guess after he was outed last time he changed names and smartly he isn't leaving himself shill feedback anymore so to cover his tracks.

All of the bidding history on that account is to plcards own auctions (copy and paste link, hyperlink doesnt work):
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidderProfile&mode=1&item=121027407438&aid=n***n&eu=ruennMDeG7MoQl9fft72ZqmyB69TyRaY&view=NONE&ssPageName=PageBidderProfileViewBids_None_ViewLink

I reported the auction to ebay
Expect this one to be relisted as well - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Soldier-Blade-TurboGrafx-16-Complete-TG-TG16-Duo-/121031817261?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item1c2e0ef82d

Since he bought it here for $82+10 shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281009048325?nma=true&si=MfJxjvm7fJSOgVcjvsC6XyEttAI%3D&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true

I had contacted the seller, and asked what it came with, turned out it was CIB. Figured it would go cheaper due to the way it was listed.  My bid didn't even get registered, it was too low.

If a***o isn't one of his shills, he really lost out. Around $9-10 in fees, making it a net loss.

EDIT:

It turns out it was bought by http://myworld.ebay.com/hotgamer-us , a seller located in Illinois. So, it looks like our buddy plcards took a $10 hit on that one. Maybe a little schadenfreude, to go along with his shill bidding.
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Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 12/19/2012, 03:24 PM
Quote from: guest on 12/19/2012, 02:58 PMLooks like our buddy plcards is at it again...

"Sold" this item to himself since the bid didn't get up high enough: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Parasol-Stars-TurboGrafx-16-1991-Complete-Box-Rare-TG-TG16-Duo-/121027407438

Relists the item today with Buy It Now/Best Offer once it fell off his ebay "sold" history: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Parasol-Stars-TurboGrafx-16-1991-Complete-In-Box-TG-TG16-Duo-/121041203300?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item1c2e9e3064

FYI: He is now using a new name to shill bid his stuff up but I haven't figured it out yet.. the ebay hidden name is n***n (137). I guess after he was outed last time he changed names and smartly he isn't leaving himself shill feedback anymore so to cover his tracks.

All of the bidding history on that account is to plcards own auctions (copy and paste link, hyperlink doesnt work):
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidderProfile&mode=1&item=121027407438&aid=n***n&eu=ruennMDeG7MoQl9fft72ZqmyB69TyRaY&view=NONE&ssPageName=PageBidderProfileViewBids_None_ViewLink

I reported the auction to ebay
Expect this one to be relisted as well - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Soldier-Blade-TurboGrafx-16-Complete-TG-TG16-Duo-/121031817261?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item1c2e0ef82d

Since he bought it here for $82+10 shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281009048325?nma=true&si=MfJxjvm7fJSOgVcjvsC6XyEttAI%3D&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true

I had contacted the seller, and asked what it came with, turned out it was CIB. Figured it would go cheaper due to the way it was listed.  My bid didn't even get registered, it was too low.

If a***o isn't one of his shills, he really lost out. Around $9-10 in fees, making it a net loss.

EDIT:

It turns out it was bought by http://myworld.ebay.com/hotgamer-us , a seller located in Illinois. So, it looks like our buddy plcards took a $10 hit on that one. Maybe a little schadenfreude, to go along with his shill bidding.
It's not about simply flipping each game for profit. Crooked resellers are thinking long term. They began nanipulating the market by buying up everything at or below average market price and began trickling games out strategically. It doesn't matter so much if they make a profit on every flipped game, what's important is that they keep demand and selling prices artificially high.
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sirhcman


PukeSter

Sort of off-topic, but Game & Watch gouging is just completely retarded.

DildoKKKobold

Quote from: CrackTiger on 12/19/2012, 04:14 PMIt's not about simply flipping each game for profit. Crooked resellers are thinking long term. They began nanipulating the market by buying up everything at or below average market price and began trickling games out strategically. It doesn't matter so much if they make a profit on every flipped game, what's important is that they keep demand and selling prices artificially high.
So according to you, he bought it at $92 shipped from a picture-less and description-less auction to resell it one month and 11 days later at $89 shipped using an actual picture and description. Also, according to you, that sale an entire month away is part of a long-term evil mastermind plan to manipulate the price of Soldier Blade, demonstrating that the value is... going down? He spent $10 on this mastermind plan?



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I don't understand how you guys are reporting these people.  I see the REPORT button, but once I get in there I'm force to use 4 separate drop-down's and none of them seem to apply to what I'm trying to report.  :-k
I'm busy playing pinball, but I still drop by to visit.

bartre

Quote from: Flare65 on 12/17/2012, 10:44 PMHas anyone here ever purchased anything that was graded?
not me, but i have a few sealed games here and there, either doubles that i haven't gotten around to moving out, or games that i just haven't gotten to play yet (SMT Devil Summoner 2 for example, i still need #1 before I'll bother to open #2)

NecroPhile

Quote from: FiftyQuid on 12/19/2012, 09:31 PMI don't understand how you guys are reporting these people.  I see the REPORT button, but once I get in there I'm force to use 4 separate drop-down's and none of them seem to apply to what I'm trying to report.  :-k
Pick whichever one is closest to what you're complaining about and explain in the note section (note that some categories won't give you a note area).  It's not like it matters - eBay doesn't give a fuck.
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sirhcman

Quote from: guest on 12/20/2012, 09:54 AMIt's not like it matters - eBay doesn't give a fuck.
Should I stop wasting my time reporting it to ebay and mentioning it here as well? I guess we have established that this guy is very shady. It boggles my mind that people here still buy from him.

NecroPhile

Heck no, don't stop.  I like laughing at these goobers and I report 'em too; maybe if enough of us complain, they'll actually listen.



$112.99 shipped for a TG-16 box and foam inserts.  It's not even in all that great of condition.
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CrackTiger

#3674
Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 12/19/2012, 09:11 PM
Quote from: CrackTiger on 12/19/2012, 04:14 PMIt's not about simply flipping each game for profit. Crooked resellers are thinking long term. They began nanipulating the market by buying up everything at or below average market price and began trickling games out strategically. It doesn't matter so much if they make a profit on every flipped game, what's important is that they keep demand and selling prices artificially high.
So according to you, he bought it at $92 shipped from a picture-less and description-less auction to resell it one month and 11 days later at $89 shipped using an actual picture and description. Also, according to you, that sale an entire month away is part of a long-term evil mastermind plan to manipulate the price of Soldier Blade, demonstrating that the value is... going down? He spent $10 on this mastermind plan?
Like I said, that wasn't all about that one resale. Why do you think he bought a game and resold it? Because he bought it to play and then accidentally listed it on eBay? This wasn't his only resale ever. He has probably invested $1000 in copies of Soldier Blade and sold $3000+ in Soldier Blade sales. He didn't lose $10 on Soldier Blade, he has netted thousands.

He didn't buy it for $25 and accidentally let it go (if the high bidder wasn't just an alias) for $24. He bought it at an expensive price and added another overpriced sale to eBay's history. That helps keep perceived value high, not drive it down. Especially with all of the people like you who treat low sale prices as anomolies and top end prices as average market value.

He is also maintaining his monopoly on Turbo games. He stopped a "rare" game from being sold from someone else. People don't visit eBay stores like hit japan because they rarely have PCE games in stock. Uncommon Turbo games are much harder to stock and the only way to keep a steady supply is by buying everything up from everyone else.

People like plcards make a name for themselves within narrowminded insta collection communities where oblivious people think nothing of how some sellers managed to stock SO many supposedly super R@RE
impossible to find games and assume that the asking prices must be what they're worth.




Quote from: guest on 12/20/2012, 11:26 AM
Quote from: NecroPhile on 12/20/2012, 09:54 AMIt's not like it matters - eBay doesn't give a fuck.
Should I stop wasting my time reporting it to ebay and mentioning it here as well? I guess we have established that this guy is very shady. It boggles my mind that people here still buy from him.
Or defend him.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

Mathius

Quote from: guest on 12/20/2012, 11:35 AMHeck no, don't stop.  I like laughing at these goobers and I report 'em too; maybe if enough of us complain, they'll actually listen.



$112.99 shipped for a TG-16 box and foam inserts.  It's not even in all that great of condition.
That's almost exactly what I paid for my boxed Turbo a few years ago. I made the sale on eBay.

BigusSchmuck

Quote from: guest on 12/20/2012, 11:35 AMHeck no, don't stop.  I like laughing at these goobers and I report 'em too; maybe if enough of us complain, they'll actually listen.



$112.99 shipped for a TG-16 box and foam inserts.  It's not even in all that great of condition.
Right up there with $1800 for a Magical Chase box. Pretty lame..

turboswimbz

Hmmm sounds like I'm not charging enough for the Boxed TG-16 in my thread, I'll have to up it 15 to match the empty box sale.  [-X
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BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere. You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

DildoKKKobold

#3678
Quote from: guest on 12/20/2012, 11:26 AM
Quote from: NecroPhile on 12/20/2012, 09:54 AMIt's not like it matters - eBay doesn't give a fuck.
Should I stop wasting my time reporting it to ebay and mentioning it here as well? I guess we have established that this guy is very shady. It boggles my mind that people here still buy from him.
Actually, no, I noticed after your first post, all his auctions ended much lower than I expected. Bringing it up repeatedly may be hurting his sales.

I personally stopped buying from him, and I can imagine other lurkers did as well.

Also, I reported him as well. Seeing as I am a top-rated seller, and he isn't, ebay might give my reporting more weight.
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Quote from: guest on 12/20/2012, 04:49 PMSeeing as I am a top-rated seller, and he isn't, ebay might give my reporting more weight.
This made me  :lol:..  eBay cares for no seller.
All is well. :)

DildoKKKobold

#3680
Quote from: RoyVegas on 12/20/2012, 04:57 PM
Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 12/20/2012, 04:49 PMSeeing as I am a top-rated seller, and he isn't, ebay might give my reporting more weight.
This made me  :lol:..  eBay cares for no seller.
Eh, there is some belief that Top-Rated sellers don't get their reproduction carts pulled, while non-TRS sellers do get repro auctions pulled.

But yeah, I'll agree, Ebay usually tells sellers to sit n' spin, when in regards to buyers.

Quote from: CrackTiger on 12/20/2012, 12:31 PMLike I said, that wasn't all about that one resale. Why do you think he bought a game and resold it? Because he bought it to play and then accidentally listed it on eBay? This wasn't his only resale ever. He has probably invested $1000 in copies of Soldier Blade and sold $3000+ in Soldier Blade sales. He didn't lose $10 on Soldier Blade, he has netted thousands.

He didn't buy it for $25 and accidentally let it go (if the high bidder wasn't just an alias) for $24. He bought it at an expensive price and added another overpriced sale to eBay's history. That helps keep perceived value high, not drive it down. Especially with all of the people like you who treat low sale prices as anomolies and top end prices as average market value.

He is also maintaining his monopoly on Turbo games. He stopped a "rare" game from being sold from someone else. People don't visit eBay stores like hit japan because they rarely have PCE games in stock. Uncommon Turbo games are much harder to stock and the only way to keep a steady supply is by buying everything up from everyone else.

People like plcards make a name for themselves within narrowminded insta collection communities where oblivious people think nothing of how some sellers managed to stock SO many supposedly super R@RE
impossible to find games and assume that the asking prices must be what they're worth.
Ok, first of all, I'm in no way defending him. I think he is a piece of shit that is bidding his own items up, and doing basically a fake reserve.

However, I'm trying to dispel you of your paranoid delusion that this is some grandeur plan to keep TG prices high. For some reason, you think that Legend of Hero Tonma being listed for $25 on eBay for a grand total of 30 seconds defines the price? No. Someone like plcards sees it as an opportunity to flip it for a quick buck. He isn't thinking of some grand conspiracy to keep the price inflated; he sees it as $75 in his pocket for minimal work. Its called BIN snipping.

I have a friend who basically babysits a network, so he keeps a window open with new eBay BINs refreshing every 5 seconds. He's made a lot of money and added awesome stuff to his collection by buying low-priced BINs, parting out what he wants, and reselling the stuff for higher. Is he part of some evil network that intends to keep video game prices high? No. He just wants a quick buck, to support his own collecting hobby. He sees a gap between what a BIN is listed for, and what he knows of previous pricing. No conspiracy, just easy money.

People on NintendoAge do this all the damn time:

http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=89556

There was adequate reason for plcards to believe he'd make a shit ton reselling a boxed soldier blade:

http://item.ebay.com/170888138634
http://item.ebay.com/140832850856
http://item.ebay.com/130754405251

But... he didn't. He lost $12. It wasn't some grand conspiracy to keep the price high. He fucked up in his estimate of what he'd make. Maybe he forgot to have one of his shill accounts buy it, or maybe he thought he was secure enough in its ending price, with last minute snipers.

In short, there is no grand conspiracy. PLCARDS. FUCKED. UP. Lost $12.
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RoyVegas

Quote from: guest on 12/20/2012, 05:20 PMEh, there is some belief that Top-Rated sellers don't get their reproduction carts pulled, while non-TRS sellers do get repro auctions pulled.
I highly doubt that.  Back in the day I was a top rated seller and had something pulled that I put up for auction.  I called eBay and spoke with someone in that department.  He told me flat out that they don't look for auctions to pull. As a matter of fact when my auction was pulled there were 5-6 other similar items listed that wern't pulled.  He also told me that their department runs off of user generated complaints.  So if you an I both have auctions for the same item and someone reports my auction and not yours, my auction will get pulled down and yours will stay up until someone reports yours also.

Based off of that phone call, users reporting auctions DOES make a difference.  Of course that's if everything he said to me was 100% true.
All is well. :)

NecroPhile

More anecdotal evidence: of the dozens of auctions that I've reported over the years, maybe one in five has been pulled.  Probably even less than that.
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DildoKKKobold

Quote from: RoyVegas on 12/20/2012, 05:40 PM
Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 12/20/2012, 05:20 PMEh, there is some belief that Top-Rated sellers don't get their reproduction carts pulled, while non-TRS sellers do get repro auctions pulled.
I highly doubt that.  Back in the day I was a top rated seller and had something pulled that I put up for auction.  I called eBay and spoke with someone in that department.  He told me flat out that they don't look for auctions to pull. As a matter of fact when my auction was pulled there were 5-6 other similar items listed that wern't pulled.  He also told me that their department runs off of user generated complaints.  So if you an I both have auctions for the same item and someone reports my auction and not yours, my auction will get pulled down and yours will stay up until someone reports yours also.

Based off of that phone call, users reporting auctions DOES make a difference.  Of course that's if everything he said to me was 100% true.
Interesting, thanks for this. I had an auction pulled earlier this year (before I got my TRS), because I used the word modify in reference to a console, which obviously meant inducing piracy. (As an aside, to play Super Famicom games on a US Super Nintendo, you just need to break two plastic tabs out of the console, which in no way allows for pirated games.) I wonder if whoever reported me was just my competition for a sale of that Super Famicom game (Chrono Trigger), as I'd had other listings untouched with the same wording.

I wonder if the same thing happened to you - you were the lowest price, so rather than lower their price, the competition reported you.

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Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 12/20/2012, 05:52 PM
Quote from: RoyVegas on 12/20/2012, 05:40 PM
Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 12/20/2012, 05:20 PMEh, there is some belief that Top-Rated sellers don't get their reproduction carts pulled, while non-TRS sellers do get repro auctions pulled.
I highly doubt that.  Back in the day I was a top rated seller and had something pulled that I put up for auction.  I called eBay and spoke with someone in that department.  He told me flat out that they don't look for auctions to pull. As a matter of fact when my auction was pulled there were 5-6 other similar items listed that wern't pulled.  He also told me that their department runs off of user generated complaints.  So if you an I both have auctions for the same item and someone reports my auction and not yours, my auction will get pulled down and yours will stay up until someone reports yours also.

Based off of that phone call, users reporting auctions DOES make a difference.  Of course that's if everything he said to me was 100% true.
Interesting, thanks for this. I had an auction pulled earlier this year (before I got my TRS), because I used the word modify in reference to a console, which obviously meant inducing piracy. (As an aside, to play Super Famicom games on a US Super Nintendo, you just need to break two plastic tabs out of the console, which in no way allows for pirated games.) I wonder if whoever reported me was just my competition for a sale of that Super Famicom game (Chrono Trigger), as I'd had other listings untouched with the same wording.

I wonder if the same thing happened to you - you were the lowest price, so rather than lower their price, the competition reported you.
I had an auction pulled for the term "like new"

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MotherGunner

No clue but you WOULD have to be high...
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turboswimbz

NW: Hey, I made it on this psycho's Enemies' List, how about that ?? ;)
BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere. You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

CrackTiger

Quote from: turboswimbz on 12/23/2012, 04:23 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/WHOLESALE-Raiden-legendary-axe-aero-blaster-splatterhouse-tg-16-turbo-grafx-/281041726203?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item416f646afb

- clearly 20 bucks to ship those. 


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Depends on packaging. I believe that the cheapest you can ship a single game with tracking by Canadapost is around $15. Without tracking a buyer can file a false claim and steal your money.
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turboswimbz

Quote from: guest on 12/23/2012, 04:49 PM
Quote from: turboswimbz on 12/23/2012, 04:23 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/WHOLESALE-Raiden-legendary-axe-aero-blaster-splatterhouse-tg-16-turbo-grafx-/281041726203?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item416f646afb

- clearly 20 bucks to ship those. 


*yes it is our old friend again.
Depends on packaging. I believe that the cheapest you can ship a single game with tracking by Canadapost is around $15. Without tracking a buyer can file a false claim and steal your money.
Yeah I didn't take into account the international post.
NW: Hey, I made it on this psycho's Enemies' List, how about that ?? ;)
BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere. You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

FiftyQuid

You can ship it cheaper and can get tracking for less than $20 internationally.  Especially shit like this that almost fits into a standard envelope.
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psychobear

So this guy is selling a turbo that is untested so he is unsure if it works due to the fact that he don't have a power cord
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=190774966955&cmd=VIDESC

But in this auction he is clearly selling a power supply for guess what a TurboGrafx
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=190774951452&index=2&nav=SEARCH&nid=08687771717

roflmao

Quote from: psychobear on 12/23/2012, 11:43 PMSo this guy is selling a turbo that is untested so he is unsure if it works due to the fact that he don't have a power cord
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=190774966955&cmd=VIDESC

But in this auction he is clearly selling a power supply for guess what a TurboGrafx
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=190774951452&index=2&nav=SEARCH&nid=08687771717
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MotherGunner

Quote from: psychobear on 12/23/2012, 11:43 PMSo this guy is selling a turbo that is untested so he is unsure if it works due to the fact that he don't have a power cord
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=190774966955&cmd=VIDESC

But in this auction he is clearly selling a power supply for guess what a TurboGrafx
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=190774951452&index=2&nav=SEARCH&nid=08687771717
OMG, I JUST messaged this guy about this!  Came here to LOL about it but you beat me to it Bear.  Yea, seems shady but I can't imagine that the TG can't be fixed?
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psychobear

This is the response after I asked him about it

"Thanks for your interest. Busy here with house full of people for the holidays and dont have time to mess around with it However Since you asked i just did a quick test hookup and get nothing but black and white hash lines. Could just be the Antenna box but I don't know. Thought I'd see if there was any interest before I just trashed it.

- islandzoom42"

MotherGunner

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