Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )

VestCunt · 02/21/2013, 05:25 PM

Quote from: galam on 02/20/2013, 04:51 PMIf you are even hinting at Roy for price inflation, from my experience, you are ass backward.

xcrement5x · 02/21/2013, 06:53 PM

Quote from: RoyVegas on 02/21/2013, 04:08 PM
Quote from: CrackTiger on 02/21/2013, 03:07 PMYou should learn what each game came with before considering paying collectors prices for them.
This should help you:

http://s667.photobucket.com/albums/vv33/royvegas/Turbografx%20Games%20Reference/

That copy of Exile 2 in there looks like the one I bought a couple years ago with sharpie through the UPC on the slipcase. That was a saddening experience because all the photos of the item had been taken to perfectly hide the defect and then when I mentioned it to the seller after getting the item they feigned ignorance about the whole thing.

geise · 02/21/2013, 07:25 PM

The whole "I know nothing" game eh? Yeah plenty of those in the ebay world. Sadly a lot of it comes with buying Turbo games. The way prices are now with Turbo stuff it's hard to not want games you buy to be in great condition. What's sad about it is the fact that the games are being harder and harder to come by. When they are it's usually not the best condition but a premium price. (on ebay)

Gladiator316 · 02/25/2013, 02:27 PM

You guys gotta check this out...I never knew a manual could be so expensive

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bonk-3-Bonks-Big-Adventure-TurboGrafx-16-Manual-Only-/250617950446?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item3a59fe70ee

BigusSchmuck · 02/25/2013, 02:54 PM

Quote from: Gladiator316 on 02/25/2013, 02:27 PMYou guys gotta check this out...I never knew a manual could be so expensive

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bonk-3-Bonks-Big-Adventure-TurboGrafx-16-Manual-Only-/250617950446?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item3a59fe70ee

Yep and two+ years going strong of not selling it.

Posted many times before.

FiftyQuid · 02/25/2013, 04:28 PM

You'd think he'd reduce his price eventually, or at least post a real photo of the item.

tpivette · 02/25/2013, 08:42 PM

Think this one is going to get out of control?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Syd-Meads-Terraforming-TurboGrafx-CD-1993-PCEngine-TTI-Right-Stuff-Corp-/140922135295?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item20cf9d22ff

bob · 02/25/2013, 09:04 PM

Quote from: tpivette on 02/25/2013, 08:42 PMThink this one is going to get out of control?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Syd-Meads-Terraforming-TurboGrafx-CD-1993-PCEngine-TTI-Right-Stuff-Corp-/140922135295?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item20cf9d22ff

I'm in.

tpivette · 02/25/2013, 09:09 PM

I'd like to be, but I know it's going to go for way more than I'd be willing to pay. So I'll just sit on the sidelines and watch the chaos... it'll be like watching soccer mom's going nuts over the last "tickle me elmo" at toys r us on black friday

bob · 02/25/2013, 09:11 PM

Quote from: tpivette on 02/25/2013, 09:09 PMI'd like to be, but I know it's going to go for way more than I'd be willing to pay. So I'll just sit on the sidelines and watch the chaos... it'll be like watching soccer mom's going nuts over the last "tickle me elmo" at toys r us on black friday

I bid $15,000,000.

FiftyQuid · 02/25/2013, 09:29 PM

Man... Too bad, it looks like it's in great shape.

tpivette · 02/25/2013, 09:35 PM

Jeez... it's already doubled in price since I posted the link!

... and in another hour it's doubled again... incredible

NightWolve · 02/25/2013, 11:23 PM

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 02/25/2013, 02:54 PM
Quote from: Gladiator316 on 02/25/2013, 02:27 PMYou guys gotta check this out...I never knew a manual could be so expensive

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bonk-3-Bonks-Big-Adventure-TurboGrafx-16-Manual-Only-/250617950446?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item3a59fe70ee
Yep and two+ years going strong of not selling it. Posted many times before.

Yeah, old news, this is none other than megahit79, nicknamed "World Class Gouger" by Tat. We have a picture of him in this thread further back. He bought a $1,000 SNK cart and immediately tried to flip it upon receiving it for $30,000 and has been trying to gouge just that Bonk III manual like forever... Persistent SOB, that's for sure!

Reading start (wow, I did a lot of work there... had some fun too and communicated with him.):
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8477.msg229525#msg229525

Jason at E3 Expo 2011:
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8477.msg229772#msg229772

Tatsujin's altered image:
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8477.msg230075#msg230075

Yeah, he was good material for a while, I thought. ;)

tggodfrey · 02/25/2013, 11:43 PM

lol I forgot all about that.......good times

NecroPhile · 02/26/2013, 10:14 AM

Heh, that guy is a right douche.

As for the Terraforming, one of the bidders driving up the price has 'private' feedback. Shill bidder?

shabba · 02/26/2013, 11:23 AM

Quote from: guest on 02/26/2013, 10:14 AMHeh, that guy is a right douche.

As for the Terraforming, one of the bidders driving up the price has 'private' feedback. Shill bidder?

Probably. But what is that game worth? Is there any estimate on the number of copies sold? I had a copy back in the day..wish I still did.

Dyna138 · 02/28/2013, 04:59 PM

Quote from: shabba on 02/26/2013, 11:23 AMProbably. But what is that game worth? Is there any estimate on the number of copies sold? I had a copy back in the day..wish I still did.

From my experience checking eBay daily for the last few years Terraforming is one of the harder to find CD games that rarely pops up. I remember when I got mine about a year ago there was a big span of time it wasn't listed. I believe I paid $80-$100 a year ago for a mint condition copy.

This auction looks a little suspicious to me...$300+ with 7 days left? It's not usual for the price to spike so early.

CrackTiger · 02/28/2013, 07:14 PM

Quote from: shabba on 02/26/2013, 11:23 AM
Quote from: NecroPhile on 02/26/2013, 10:14 AMHeh, that guy is a right douche.

As for the Terraforming, one of the bidders driving up the price has 'private' feedback. Shill bidder?
Probably. But what is that game worth? Is there any estimate on the number of copies sold? I had a copy back in the day..wish I still did.

If I were to tell you 500 or 500,000, what would you reference that with?

bob · 02/28/2013, 08:03 PM

Quote from: guest on 02/28/2013, 07:14 PM
Quote from: shabba on 02/26/2013, 11:23 AM
Quote from: guest on 02/26/2013, 10:14 AMHeh, that guy is a right douche.

As for the Terraforming, one of the bidders driving up the price has 'private' feedback. Shill bidder?
Probably. But what is that game worth? Is there any estimate on the number of copies sold? I had a copy back in the day..wish I still did.
If I were to tell you 500 or 500,000, what would you reference that with?

I'm often interested in how many copies a lot of turbo games were printed/sold. For no other reason then curiosity. I have a deep interest in the history of the video game business, so these numbers always intrigue me. Oh well.

CrackTiger · 02/28/2013, 10:49 PM

Quote from: galam on 02/28/2013, 08:03 PM
Quote from: CrackTiger on 02/28/2013, 07:14 PM
Quote from: shabba on 02/26/2013, 11:23 AM
Quote from: NecroPhile on 02/26/2013, 10:14 AMHeh, that guy is a right douche.

As for the Terraforming, one of the bidders driving up the price has 'private' feedback. Shill bidder?
Probably. But what is that game worth? Is there any estimate on the number of copies sold? I had a copy back in the day..wish I still did.
If I were to tell you 500 or 500,000, what would you reference that with?
I'm often interested in how many copies a lot of turbo games were printed/sold. For no other reason then curiosity. I have a deep interest in the history of the video game business, so these numbers always intrigue me. Oh well.

I am too. Unfortunately, the moment a number is quoted, gougers and gullible collectors alike will use it to justify limitless collector prices. It literally becomes limited edition to those people (who have taken over the Turbo market).

But separate from that, whatever the exact numbers of any game sold or produced are, it is meaningless when it comes to "rarity". No one knows what the legitimate demand is, so the number if current copies in existence only fuels imagination. With so many resellers sitting on stacks of the same rarer Turbo games, Magical Chase and Dynastic Hero could each be more common than Bonk's Adventure for all we know. They control the "fair market value" either way.

shabba · 03/01/2013, 12:30 PM

Quote from: guest on 02/28/2013, 07:14 PM
Quote from: shabba on 02/26/2013, 11:23 AM
Quote from: guest on 02/26/2013, 10:14 AMHeh, that guy is a right douche.

As for the Terraforming, one of the bidders driving up the price has 'private' feedback. Shill bidder?
Probably. But what is that game worth? Is there any estimate on the number of copies sold? I had a copy back in the day..wish I still did.
If I were to tell you 500 or 500,000, what would you reference that with?

Absolutely nothing. I'm rarely surprised anymore when a game, despite the system, becomes hugely expensive. I like to have some idea of where that sudden price jump or desire to own came from. I can point to Final Fantasy VII on the PS1...last summer, it took off in price (it has since settled) and I was flabbergasted as to why. How many millions of copies of that game existed? I couldn't understand how the game was selling for as much as it sold for new when there is copy for every person living here.

bob · 03/01/2013, 12:38 PM

Quote from: shabba on 03/01/2013, 12:30 PM
Quote from: guest on 02/28/2013, 07:14 PM
Quote from: shabba on 02/26/2013, 11:23 AM
Quote from: guest on 02/26/2013, 10:14 AMHeh, that guy is a right douche.

As for the Terraforming, one of the bidders driving up the price has 'private' feedback. Shill bidder?
Probably. But what is that game worth? Is there any estimate on the number of copies sold? I had a copy back in the day..wish I still did.
If I were to tell you 500 or 500,000, what would you reference that with?
Absolutely nothing. I'm rarely surprised anymore when a game, despite the system, becomes hugely expensive. I like to have some idea of where that sudden price jump or desire to own came from. I can point to Final Fantasy VII on the PS1...last summer, it took off in price (it has since settled) and I was flabbergasted as to why. How many millions of copies of that game existed? I couldn't understand how the game was selling for as much as it sold for new when there is copy for every person living here.

Very similar to some NES games like contra. Still getting a somewhat lofty price, even for a loosey. Especially considering how many were sold. And look at golden eye for 64. Still fetching over 20 a cart and look at how many of THOSE are out there.

tpivette · 03/01/2013, 12:51 PM

Quote from: Dyna138 on 02/28/2013, 04:59 PMThis auction looks a little suspicious to me...$300+ with 7 days left? It's not usual for the price to spike so early.

It actually spiked that high in the first 2 hours of its listing... VERY suspicious

Quote from: shabba on 03/01/2013, 12:30 PMI like to have some idea of where that sudden price jump or desire to own came from. I can point to Final Fantasy VII on the PS1...last summer, it took off in price (it has since settled) and I was flabbergasted as to why. How many millions of copies of that game existed? I couldn't understand how the game was selling for as much as it sold for new when there is copy for every person living here.

FF7 has had a recent price spike? I had no idea... that's one of the few games I held onto from my youth. Surprised that its worth anything as it had a "greatest Hits" release and probably sold in the millions

BigusSchmuck · 03/02/2013, 01:57 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beyond-Shadowgate-/350729245999?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item51a917952f
Now I have seen everything.

Mathius · 03/02/2013, 03:23 PM

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 03/02/2013, 01:57 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Beyond-Shadowgate-/350729245999?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item51a917952f
Now I have seen everything.

Are they kidding??? I wouldn't pay $1.

Bernie · 03/02/2013, 03:26 PM

Wow... I hope nobody has bought that mess.

jelloslug · 03/02/2013, 06:45 PM

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 03/02/2013, 01:57 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Beyond-Shadowgate-/350729245999?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item51a917952f
Now I have seen everything.

Those books have been noted before. The back story is that the "publisher" found a loophole with Amazons books on demand feature where if a publisher had a certain amount of sales Amazon would then automatically order a certain number of any new book that was published. The publisher generated fake sales by putting in requests with public and university libraries for the titles that they made (reprints of wikipedia articles) and then once they had hit the sales threshold Amazon would then start buying with no triggers. By the time Amazon had caught on they had sold a metric ass load of worthless books to Amazon. Amazon then dumped them at wholesale to companies that buy up excess inventory and now some unsuspecting company is trying to sell them on ebay. That seller has over 90,000 auctions for betascript publishing books right now...

tpivette · 03/03/2013, 11:21 AM

Really? $150 for just the freaking BOX? I've seen CIB copies go for less! Maybe someone wants to give the forum patented $2.00 offer...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Soldier-Blade-BOX-ONLY-TurboGrafx-16-TG-16-Turbo-Duo-/300870090626?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item460d413f82

FiftyQuid · 03/03/2013, 01:56 PM

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 03/02/2013, 01:57 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Beyond-Shadowgate-/350729245999?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item51a917952f
Now I have seen everything.

There's no way anyone is buying these things. Even if they did sell them, how many fools are out there that would be duped into buying a copy? Please say less than 5.

BigusSchmuck · 03/03/2013, 04:32 PM

Quote from: FiftyQuid on 03/03/2013, 01:56 PM
Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 03/02/2013, 01:57 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Beyond-Shadowgate-/350729245999?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item51a917952f
Now I have seen everything.
There's no way anyone is buying these things. Even if they did sell them, how many fools are out there that would be duped into buying a copy? Please say less than 5.

Can't be any worse than a guy who came in here trying to sell his Magical Chase Box for $1800.

Psycho Punch · 03/03/2013, 06:10 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bonk-3-Bonks-Big-Adventure-TurboGrafx-16-Manual-Only-/250617950446?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item3a59fe70ee

not sure if it was posted, but what the actual fuck? $300 for just the MANUAL of Bonk 3?

tpivette · 03/03/2013, 06:12 PM

Quote from: guest on 03/03/2013, 06:10 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Bonk-3-Bonks-Big-Adventure-TurboGrafx-16-Manual-Only-/250617950446?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item3a59fe70ee

not sure if it was posted, but what the actual fuck? $300 for just the MANUAL of Bonk 3?

Yeah, that one has been mentioned many times. Jump back a page or two... theres the cliff notes on the item and the seller

seieienbu · 03/03/2013, 06:12 PM

Uh, that Beyond Shadowgate thing, I don't understand that at all. What exactly is this guy selling?

psychobear · 03/03/2013, 06:20 PM

Quote from: guest on 03/03/2013, 06:10 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Bonk-3-Bonks-Big-Adventure-TurboGrafx-16-Manual-Only-/250617950446?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item3a59fe70ee

not sure if it was posted, but what the actual fuck? $300 for just the MANUAL of Bonk 3?

It's been talked about a few times

Bernie · 03/03/2013, 07:06 PM

Quote from: seieienbu on 03/03/2013, 06:12 PMUh, that Beyond Shadowgate thing, I don't understand that at all. What exactly is this guy selling?

Giant piece of doggie poo.

Gladiator316 · 03/03/2013, 07:54 PM

Quote from: guest on 03/03/2013, 06:10 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Bonk-3-Bonks-Big-Adventure-TurboGrafx-16-Manual-Only-/250617950446?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item3a59fe70ee

not sure if it was posted, but what the actual fuck? $300 for just the MANUAL of Bonk 3?

yeah i posted that too...its been around for two years or so according to everyone here...and it still hasn't sold...HAHAHAHA!!

NecroPhile · 03/04/2013, 11:25 AM

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 03/02/2013, 01:57 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Beyond-Shadowgate-/350729245999?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item51a917952f
Now I have seen everything.

136 pages?!? I don't think the wiki article is even 136 words.

bob · 03/04/2013, 11:55 AM

Quote from: guest on 03/04/2013, 11:25 AM
Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 03/02/2013, 01:57 PMhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Beyond-Shadowgate-/350729245999?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item51a917952f
Now I have seen everything.
136 pages?!? I don't think the wiki article is even 136 words.

Hmm. If they truly scoured the internet and print sources for beyond shadowgate info, i wonder if the article i wrote for the game mag in the UK made it in the book. If so, am i entitled to royalties from the millions of copies that will inevitably sell?

PCEngineHell · 03/04/2013, 03:01 PM

You'd have to buy a copy to find out if they used your work lol. Wouldn't that be ironic, you being their only customer for the thing and all just to see if they did.

Bardoly · 03/04/2013, 03:52 PM

I haven't seen enough Bonk 3 CD sales to know where this belongs:

Bonk 3 CD - Complete in Jewel case with manual for $299.00 shipped

Maybe this actually belonged in the good deal thread? I don't really know what the going price has been, since it pops up so rarely.

I saw it right after it was posted, and I did think about it, since it's one of the few remaining TurboGrafx-16 CD games which I don't have, but someone went ahead and jumped on it.

Bernie · 03/04/2013, 04:13 PM

Damnit... I woulda been all over that... ugh

RoyVegas · 03/04/2013, 07:58 PM

Quote from: Gladiator316 on 02/21/2013, 01:33 PMIm curious what would be the correct price for Bonk 3? Just in case I spot one and need to know what its really worth?

I know it was from 4 pages ago but since the question was fairly recent, the answer is $39.99 + $3.99 shipping. It just takes some time and luck. And no I was not the buyer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BONK-3-TurboGrafx-16-Turbo-Grafx-TURBO-DUO-CIB-Hucard-Game-Manual-/111022360101?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item19d972c625

Sadler · 03/04/2013, 08:34 PM

Quote from: RoyVegas on 03/04/2013, 07:58 PM
Quote from: Gladiator316 on 02/21/2013, 01:33 PMIm curious what would be the correct price for Bonk 3? Just in case I spot one and need to know what its really worth?
I know it was from 4 pages ago but since the question was fairly recent, the answer is $39.99 + $3.99 shipping. It just takes some time and luck. And no I was not the buyer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BONK-3-TurboGrafx-16-Turbo-Grafx-TURBO-DUO-CIB-Hucard-Game-Manual-/111022360101?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item19d972c625

Not commenting on the price, but...

A) That's the hucard, not the harder to find SCD.

B) Patience and luck are great, but let's be real. It requires obsessive checking of auction sites, scouring thrift stores and a large amount of effort to find a game like that for cheap.

bob · 03/04/2013, 08:51 PM

Quote from: Sadler on 03/04/2013, 08:34 PM
Quote from: RoyVegas on 03/04/2013, 07:58 PM
Quote from: Gladiator316 on 02/21/2013, 01:33 PMIm curious what would be the correct price for Bonk 3? Just in case I spot one and need to know what its really worth?
I know it was from 4 pages ago but since the question was fairly recent, the answer is $39.99 + $3.99 shipping. It just takes some time and luck. And no I was not the buyer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BONK-3-TurboGrafx-16-Turbo-Grafx-TURBO-DUO-CIB-Hucard-Game-Manual-/111022360101?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item19d972c625
Not commenting on the price, but...

A) That's the hucard, not the harder to find SCD.

B) Patience and luck are great, but let's be real. It requires obsessive checking of auction sites, scouring thrift stores and a large amount of effort to find a game like that for cheap.

I've never seen THAT in a thrift store. I'm just sayin'...

RoyVegas · 03/04/2013, 11:48 PM

Quote from: Sadler on 03/04/2013, 08:34 PM
Quote from: RoyVegas on 03/04/2013, 07:58 PM
Quote from: Gladiator316 on 02/21/2013, 01:33 PMIm curious what would be the correct price for Bonk 3? Just in case I spot one and need to know what its really worth?
I know it was from 4 pages ago but since the question was fairly recent, the answer is $39.99 + $3.99 shipping. It just takes some time and luck. And no I was not the buyer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BONK-3-TurboGrafx-16-Turbo-Grafx-TURBO-DUO-CIB-Hucard-Game-Manual-/111022360101?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item19d972c625
Not commenting on the price, but...

A) That's the hucard, not the harder to find SCD.

B) Patience and luck are great, but let's be real. It requires obsessive checking of auction sites, scouring thrift stores and a large amount of effort to find a game like that for cheap.

True on A however the one from 4 pages ago (if you go back and look) he was actually talking about the Hu card, not the CD discussion that is on this page.

And for B? Yup, you're right, it can take a lot of effort. But if you want a deal it's what you have to do, if not, you can always pay the premium price.

geise · 03/05/2013, 05:54 AM

The way it is in Turbo land these days is the lazy people pay the premium price. Well that and the 18 year old uneducated.

Bernie · 03/05/2013, 07:57 AM

Quote from: geise on 03/05/2013, 05:54 AMThe way it is in Turbo land these days is the lazy people pay the premium price. Well that and the 18 year old uneducated.

So, if someone pays more than what YOU feel is too much, they are lazy? There is a lot of middle ground as far as prices. Basically, there is a OMG that shit is too high, or, damn...its a little more than I wanted, but it rarely pops up. Not defending the gougers at all, lets get that point straight. However, not everyone can stay glued to their PC waiting for that GREAT deal, specially when so many people are searching.

jelloslug · 03/05/2013, 09:12 AM

The real answer for what a specific game is worth is:

Whatever someone will pay for it.

Sure, there will be instances were someone gets an astounding deal but for the most part the market sets the price. That's why there are hundreds of unsold auctions everyday for $30 common games and $150 systems.

Sadler · 03/05/2013, 09:33 AM

Quote from: RoyVegas on 03/04/2013, 11:48 PMTrue on A however the one from 4 pages ago (if you go back and look) he was actually talking about the Hu card, not the CD discussion that is on this page.

Whoops, I'm sorry! Thought you were responding to Bardoly. Some day I'll learn to read.

Edit: uggg and write.

DildoKKKobold · 03/05/2013, 01:27 PM

Quote from: Bardoly on 03/04/2013, 03:52 PMI haven't seen enough Bonk 3 CD sales to know where this belongs:

Bonk 3 CD - Complete in Jewel case with manual for $299.00 shipped

Maybe this actually belonged in the good deal thread? I don't really know what the going price has been, since it pops up so rarely.

I saw it right after it was posted, and I did think about it, since it's one of the few remaining TurboGrafx-16 CD games which I don't have, but someone went ahead and jumped on it.

There was one that sold for $230 + 8 shipping a few weeks ago. It was gone within 30 seconds of listing. If you want to spend less than $350, you basically have to obsessively check ebay every 30 seconds for an entire year. What is your time worth?

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