What kinda TV do you play TG16 on?

termis · 01/05/2011, 01:21 AM

Quote from: MottZilla on 01/04/2011, 09:06 PMEmulation can't compare to the real thing. Either accuracy issues, not using the real controller, or picture and sound differences tend to bother me with emulation. Though it's better than going without playing great classic games at all.

No doubt. I hear you, though after getting a USB saturn pad, the controller issue is a lot less of an issue for me now.

The emulation inaccuracies are still there, and for some systems, I couldn't think of replacing the real hardware due to these inaccuracies (Sega Saturn for one), but for most 8 & 16 bit systems, it's getting to the point where it's starting to become a viable alternative to real hardware for me. Especially when I have too many systems taking up shelf space with 50,000 different wires running behind the TV.

Software, on the other hand, I'll still purchase the ones I like as long as it's practical (that is, it doesn't go for crazy sums), as I like having a physical copy with manual, maps, and all that (That's even for cartridge/card software).

Official Ninja · 01/05/2011, 10:56 AM

Before getting my duo-r I was using magic engine with a tg-16 usb pad. Its really good but I started to notice a very slight lag in the input. I'd play Alien crush and I would seem to be missing the ball all the time. I'm talking very very slight delay, if it wasnt for the pinball game I probably would never have noticed it.

Im not sure if it is the retrozone usb kit, that PC, or magic engine. I'm too lazy to plug the tg16 pad in another pc and look in to it more, because I have my duo-r now

Obfuscate · 01/05/2011, 03:25 PM

20" Toshiba CRT. Had a real nice 27" Toshiba CRT that bite the dust last spring and am missing it. Tried for a while on a 37" Toshiba LCD but it just didn't look nice at all. I now have the two TVs side by side so I can have them both hooked up to my surround sound. The 37" LCD for my PS3 and my 20" CRT for my Duo-R.

BlueBMW · 01/05/2011, 08:05 PM

I just got handed down my folks old 36" CRT TV

Its big, and rediculously heavy, but it works great for retro gaming!

MottZilla · 01/05/2011, 09:13 PM

Quote from: termis on 01/05/2011, 01:21 AM
Quote from: MottZilla on 01/04/2011, 09:06 PMEmulation can't compare to the real thing. Either accuracy issues, not using the real controller, or picture and sound differences tend to bother me with emulation. Though it's better than going without playing great classic games at all.
No doubt. I hear you, though after getting a USB saturn pad, the controller issue is a lot less of an issue for me now.

The emulation inaccuracies are still there, and for some systems, I couldn't think of replacing the real hardware due to these inaccuracies (Sega Saturn for one), but for most 8 & 16 bit systems, it's getting to the point where it's starting to become a viable alternative to real hardware for me. Especially when I have too many systems taking up shelf space with 50,000 different wires running behind the TV.

Well Nestopia and BSNES do excellent jobs for sure. But there are still things that bother me with emulation versus the real thing. It can be a hassle having alot of systems taking up space and having alot of wires I guess. The way I have things set up is I have all my modern consoles (360, PS3, Wii) hooked up to a nice 32" LCD. All my classic stuff (NES, SNES, Genesis, PCE, PS1, Saturn) is hooked up to my RGB monitor. It is kind of a mess with those 6 systems all on this tiny shelf. But I've got it organized enough that it's not a huge deal. I had to reorganize recently when my PCE joined them.

To put it simply, I could have just emulated PCE with my PC on my 32" LCD TV with Mednafen or whatever else. Instead I spent a few hundred bucks buying a PCE DUO-R that was RGB modded along with some games. If emulation got it done for me, I would have spent the money on something else.

rodek · 01/10/2011, 09:54 PM

27" sony Wega Flat CRT. =) (but it makes straight line curved slightly =(

Official Ninja · 01/11/2011, 09:01 AM

Quote from: rodek on 01/10/2011, 09:54 PM27" sony Wega Flat CRT. =) (but it makes straight line curved slightly =(

Yeah... lots of CRTs do that, I have a very nice Sharp 27" X-Flat TV that does it too, but the picture is still beautiful to look at. I've had nice RCA Entertainment Series sets, 32" and 36" that had perfect straight lines. Great TVs. I gave them away, to my regret today.

Shadoblaid · 01/23/2011, 08:17 PM

Hello everyone

I play my Turbo duo on a Sony NX810 55" LED TV. Passed through my Onkyo 608 Receiver up converted to 1080p. Has the bars on the side but Dracula x and Bonk look pretty sweet

Arkhan Asylum · 01/23/2011, 08:40 PM

Quote from: SuperDeadite on 11/28/2010, 04:23 AMSony Trinitron 29''. Such a beautiful picture. Equipped with 1x RGB, 2x Component, 3x S-Video, 4x Composite.

OMG CONTRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA DODODODODO

I currently have a 1084S-D1 sitting 5" from my face, with sweet 250$ headphones plugged in, for maximum OBEY.

malicedoom · 01/25/2011, 01:35 PM

55" Samsung LED 1080p HD, bought early last year.

SignOfZeta · 01/25/2011, 03:23 PM

Lately I've been experimenting with one of these:

So far I've only had it running with MVS and Saturn, but the results for those systems were amazing when coupled with a 17" VGA monitor.

I'm waiting for parts for an RGB amp for PCE since the built in signal is too weak and shitty to sync with this thing.

What I wrote about it on neo-geo.com:

QuoteI tried it out on a few things. Everything looked bad on the Viewsonic LCD because I can't figure out how to make it not scale, but when I switched to an old Dell 17" CRT things got really good.

It runs with PS2 and GC through component pretty damn good, aside from all the fake low-res issues 2D games for those systems have.

I tried feeding it unmodified Genesis 1 and PC Engine RGB signals...neither worked very well. The PC Engine synched a lot better than the Genesis, but neither really worked. I've got parts for a PCE RGP amp coming in the mail that I hope will help with this issue. I also found details of how to get a better Genesis RGB signal with resisters and caps. I'll try that too.

I hooked my 2 slot up to it and had no issues. In fact, that flicker in Pulstar when it switches between game play and anything else? Even that's gone. The visual experience isn't much different from Neo Rage X.

So as for quality, I have to say I'm very impressed. After a lot of adjustment the only issue I noticed was that sometimes when backgrounds scroll you get a bit of...I don't know the correct term, shimmer? Even that is pretty minimal. You'll never notice it in KOF, and you certainly won't notice it in Bomberman or Super Baseball 2020, but it will show up in Metal Slug 3 or Pulstar because the BGs are so detailed. Other than that...I literally have no problems with it whatsoever. No delay, no scaling artifacts, nothing. The thing is amazing.

Is it perfect? No, only a large flat CRT is perfect, but for those who don't have an extra $700 and a titanium spine this is a pretty good substitute. It must be an absolute God send for operators. Seriously. You can replace a blown out CRT with this and some random LCD for $300 or less.

Best thing? Its $35. $35! Incredible!

Anyone who's running composite straight to an big LCD and for some reason doesn't realize their image absolutely sucks*, I highly recommend you try one of these out and marvel at the different. They aren't perfect, but XRGB are FIVE FUCKING HUNDRED DOLLARS these days so its a pretty good alternative.

* No, it sucks. No, seriously, its sucky. No, I don't care how much you paid for the damned TV, SD game consoles look like shit on it. Yes, shit.

SuperDeadite · 01/25/2011, 09:15 PM

Only the XRGB-3 is really expensive. And there is no point to the 3 if you are using a CRT monitor.
For your 17'' VGA monitor, the 2+ would be fine. 2 still has the best compatibility and is my favorite.
It can play all the screwy arcade boards (like Xexex) perfectly. Xexex on an XRGB-2+ or 3 gives you a
black screen of death.

Still that board is ok, I'd recommend adding one of those new SLG3000 gizmos (new scan line generator),
just plug and play with 31khz signals. As that's the one big negative of the cheap jamma vga board,
needs scanlines.

SignOfZeta · 01/26/2011, 12:29 AM

Yeah, I can't help but wonder if scan lines would reduce the "shimmering" effect as well.

I realize the 3 is expensive, but the 3 is the only one you can buy new now, isn't it? The price of Japanese electronics has really gone up. A Technics 1200 MkII turntable now is very near $1000 now, whereas 10 years ago they were barely half that. Same damn deck!

I think there might be a typo in your post. Are you saying the original 2 is the best and to avoid the 2+?

nikdog · 01/26/2011, 04:56 AM

The Pyle SCART to HDMI convertor works great for LCDs aswell.

SuperDeadite · 01/26/2011, 07:26 AM

No typo. The old gray 2 has the best compatibility of all XRGBs. If you want to play arcade boards, the 2 or even
the original XRGB-1 are better choices then the 2+ or 3. The 3, in B1 mode is just a 2+ with more tweaks. And B0 mode
gives you 2 frames of lag.

The 2 was the last model to officially support arcade PCBs. Here's my old vid, shows the 2+ fail:

When I get more time, I plan on making a full on comparison vid between the 1,2,2+,3, and even the
DISPL TV

Oh, now I see what you meant by typo, post fixed.

CGQuarterly · 01/30/2011, 11:18 AM

I use a little 15" Sony PVM RGB monitor to play all of my classic systems. Yeah, it's small, but the image quality and color are amazing. I just sit up close to it and have it sitting up at eye level, so it works just fine.

Chris

SignOfZeta · 01/30/2011, 11:43 AM

Yeah, smaller displays make low res consoles look amazing. Also, you can tate them without the warping/exploding/etc.

CGQuarterly · 02/02/2011, 12:49 AM

I'm way too protective of my RGB monitor to flip it on its side. I'm sure it would be fine, but I wouldn't want to have to worry about finding another one if something did happen.

Chris

GameFreak · 02/02/2011, 01:18 AM

I'm glad I started this thread. Half of you confuse the F out of me. But the rest of you are actually informing my dumb azz big time. Keep the info comin! Some of you say LCD looks bad compared to an old tube TV. My LCD looks WAY better than my old tube TV but I think it's because my tube TV has turned into JUNK recently. I'm not sure though...

/...

Duo_R · 02/02/2011, 01:28 AM

I am wanting to look into something else besides the Atlona RGB to YUV boards. Any extensive reviews on the other boards eveyrone is mentioning? I am curious about that RGB to HDMI board.

SignOfZeta · 02/02/2011, 03:26 AM

Quote from: CGQuarterly on 02/02/2011, 12:49 AMI'm way too protective of my RGB monitor to flip it on its side. I'm sure it would be fine, but I wouldn't want to have to worry about finding another one if something did happen.

Chris

If its a pro arcade monitor it will be fine, since they are designed to rotate in the first place. If its small-ish (17" or so) it will also be fine. If its big and has a normal consumer sort of chassis though, yeah, I wouldn't risk it.

Arkhan Asylum · 02/02/2011, 01:51 PM

I just slapped a 19" sanyo LCD tv down on my desk and put the fucking 1084S in the closet. I sacrifice image quality for reclaiming desk space. It doesn't look bad, but it doesn't look fuckin good.

I cranked the sharpness to max and un-fullscreened. Its ok.

I also hooked the sound up to a 5 piece logitech speaker setup. Thats pretty funny.

Got a link to that doodad you put the picture of? I might want to try it on this TV with my MSX and PCE. Assuming we can get it to sync? Did you get any luck with syncing it?

This is just my spare/Dev setup next to my PCs. The real setup is on a like 32" sanyo CRT television hooked up to some 1980s HIFI!

FUCKYEAH.

SignOfZeta · 02/02/2011, 02:11 PM

Quote from: guest on 02/02/2011, 01:51 PMGot a link to that doodad you put the picture of? I might want to try it on this TV with my MSX and PCE. Assuming we can get it to sync? Did you get any luck with syncing it?

LINK

My Saturn works perfectly with it. I hooked it up with SCART. Well, actually not SCART but via a DB9 I hacked into to the back of it. Saturn SCART cables don't have any resistors in them or anything though, so its identical to SCART. Cube and PS2 through component also sync perfectly. Any JAMMA board should work perfectly. My two MVS do.

I can't get the PCE to sync for the life of me though. I tried running the lines right in from the IFU, but it only syncs the first frame or two when you first turn the system on, then it drops. I built the old PC Engine no Tsubete RGB amp, and with that I got jack shit. I tried the new N64 inspired IC amp people are talking about now, and that didn't work either. This amp leaves the sync alone, and that's probably my issue. I have a sync separator chip just for this purpose, I just need to figure out WTF to do with it.

What sucks is that this is my only 15kHz RGB capable device, so I can't be certain that my PCE mods are functional at all. If I had a normal fully analog RGB monitor I have a feeling it would sync fine, but I can't be sure. I also have issues with Genesis, but that's for different reasons. I have an X-RGB2+ on the way. Once it gets here I'll have a better frame of reference.

Didn't you say you had some extra monitors of some sort? You live in Cleveland, right?

esteban · 02/02/2011, 02:18 PM

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 02/02/2011, 02:11 PMYou live in Cleveland, right?

This has nothing to do with an extra monitor.

I kid, I kid.

Obfuscate · 02/02/2011, 04:01 PM

Quote from: GameFreak on 02/02/2011, 01:18 AMI'm glad I started this thread. Half of you confuse the F out of me. But the rest of you are actually informing my dumb azz big time. Keep the info comin! Some of you say LCD looks bad compared to an old tube TV.

Some Tubes do look like shit, my mom gave me her old 27" sylvan CRT and I was all pumped since I've been playing on a 20" Toshiba CRT. Brought it home, played with every setting and it still looks like crap so I'm back to my 20". I'd rather have a smaller screen with a nice picture than a large one that looks like a turd. Someday I will stumble on a 27-32" CRT with a nice picture and it will be mine.....

Arkhan Asylum · 02/02/2011, 04:51 PM

QuoteDidn't you say you had some extra monitors of some sort? You live in Cleveland, right?

Yeah I live in Cleveland right near that CCAG place. I have a 1084S-D1 and a 1080 monitor. They're nice, but when you've got a Turbo-R, Amiga1200, SuperGrafx, and whoknows wtf else set up on this desk, its nice to have a flat panel to use.

This TV has a VGA port on it. Would that board allow me to use the systems on it with the VGA port? I am pretty retarded at this sort of thing.

SignOfZeta · 02/02/2011, 07:40 PM

Quote from: Obfuscate on 02/02/2011, 04:01 PMSome Tubes do look like shit, my mom gave me her old 27" sylvan CRT and I was all pumped since I've been playing on a 20" Toshiba CRT. Brought it home, played with every setting and it still looks like crap so I'm back to my 20". I'd rather have a smaller screen with a nice picture than a large one that looks like a turd. Someday I will stumble on a 27-32" CRT with a nice picture and it will be mine.....

Well, yeah, not every CRT is good, obviously. That is why some 27" TVs cost $200, and the one I got the other day cost $1300. Since it was used I only paid $20 though, and boy does it RULE.

Here is a link to me talking about my crazy new monitor.

A pretty sure bet on CRTs from the 90s is Sony. You can get a great old Trinitron for $60 at a Salvation Army store.

SignOfZeta · 02/02/2011, 07:57 PM

Quote from: guest on 02/02/2011, 04:51 PMThis TV has a VGA port on it. Would that board allow me to use the systems on it with the VGA port? I am pretty retarded at this sort of thing.

Yeah, that's the whole purpose of the board. It will take almost any RGB signal (as well as component) and output them as 640x480, 800x600, or 1024x768 VGA.

That doesn't necessarily mean it will look at that great though. I have a 19" Samsung LCD monitor that I tried with it and it looked like shit since VGA always looks like shit going into that thing, and at a non-native res...its terrible. When I hook my Macbook to it via DVI is terrific, but with analog sources its shite.

If you can turn off all scaling then it might look really nice though. I can't on this LCD of mine since its cheap shit. With a good display its probably pretty nice. The visual results on my 17" CRT are pretty good. It upscales way better than most TVs, but those used to "real" line doublers from Micomsoft (or better) won't be having it. It has some issues with fake flicker transparencies, but its not as bad as the shit built into most LCD TVs where one guy has a full black shadow and the other guy has none.

Arkhan Asylum · 02/02/2011, 08:14 PM

I am debating taking this TV back as I just got it yesterday, and putting the 1084 back on the desk. Though, inevitably, it is going to die...so finding a modern solution is needed eventually.

I don't have any RGB mods on any of my consoles. My MSX outputs RGB natively though.

Going from standard RCA composite doom into an XRGB, will that yield happy results, or no?

Also, I am thinking of buying this: SLG3000 Scanline Generator thing.... to use with the XRGB or something.

http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/ Has lots of information/comparisons point to getting an VP30 + Scanline generator, or the XRGB, if your goal is to play PCE stuff, or MSX. (And yes I am aware that MSX on the site is for Metal Slug X, and not the MSX computer!).

Would I need to RGB mod my SuperGrafx, or Duo-R to take full advantage of an XRGB or VP30 though? Cause if so, fuck it. 1084 time. Composite on a 1084 looks good. I am thinking about getting an RGB mod on my duo-r eventually. Doesn't D-Lite do them?

nat · 02/02/2011, 09:34 PM

Quote from: Obfuscate on 02/02/2011, 04:01 PM
Quote from: GameFreak on 02/02/2011, 01:18 AMI'm glad I started this thread. Half of you confuse the F out of me. But the rest of you are actually informing my dumb azz big time. Keep the info comin! Some of you say LCD looks bad compared to an old tube TV.
Some Tubes do look like shit, my mom gave me her old 27" sylvan CRT and I was all pumped since I've been playing on a 20" Toshiba CRT. Brought it home, played with every setting and it still looks like crap so I'm back to my 20". I'd rather have a smaller screen with a nice picture than a large one that looks like a turd. Someday I will stumble on a 27-32" CRT with a nice picture and it will be mine.....

Three letters for you... J-V-C.

You might be laughing, but seriously. I have a JVC 30" CRT that we (my wife and I) got new in 2004. It's a flat-screen CRT, which I much prefer over the curved screens. The important thing, however, is that it displays just about the best (perfectly colored, crispest) picture I've ever seen on a CRT. The input selection pales in comparison to that one Zeta linked to, but it still offers 3x composite inputs, 1x component and 1x S-Video in addition to RF. I have to use two switchboxes (one for the composites and one for the S-Videos) for all the consoles I have hooked up to it, but in 30 years I've never seen a better picture on a CRT.

Also, FWIW, I have no bias to JVC or anything. Up until last year I owned a 1991 JVC set (same size, 30") that had a picture that couldn't touch the 2004 JVC with a 100-foot pole. The flyback transformer finally blew so I chucked it. On the other hand, I will push my electronics knowledge to the limits to keep the 2004 going forever.

EDIT: Here's the 2004 TV I'm talking about. The description is misleading, as the TV is not HD. It's just capable of receiving and "downscaling" HD video feeds and displaying them as SD.

SuperDeadite · 02/02/2011, 09:38 PM

XRGBs work best with RGB. Using S-Vid and Composite through them aren't recommended unless you have no choice.
The SLG3000 is for VGA. So you can pair one with an XRGB, but not really needed unless your are really anal about perfect scanlines, or have an XRGB-1 (no scanlines, but cheapest option).

Arkhan Asylum · 02/02/2011, 10:31 PM

Quote from: SuperDeadite on 02/02/2011, 09:38 PMXRGBs work best with RGB. Using S-Vid and Composite through them aren't recommended unless you have no choice.
The SLG3000 is for VGA. So you can pair one with an XRGB, but not really needed unless your are really anal about perfect scanlines, or have an XRGB-1 (no scanlines, but cheapest option).

but what about using that DVDO option, thats cheaper than an XRGB, with the scanline simulator?

This all sucks and seems like a lot of fuckin work when I got a badass 1084S in the closet 5 feet from me.

SignOfZeta · 02/03/2011, 01:32 AM

QuoteThree letters for you... J-V-C.

Hey, that's the TV I moved out of the game room and into a bedroom to make room for this crazy new one I got. I think its more like 27", but it looks exactly like that and has most, if not all, of the same features. The picture is really good for sure, and I like the 16:9 enhanced capability. I wish my new one did that. Someday I want to get a squeeze Laserdisc and try that out, but I've used it a lot with DVDs. I don't know if mine has the 3D comb filter or not, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did.

Quote from: guest on 02/02/2011, 08:14 PMGoing from standard RCA composite doom into an XRGB, will that yield happy results, or no?

well, happer, but RGB gives jaw droppingly awesome results. It will scale and deinterlace much better than almost any TV, but it will be not as good.

QuoteAlso, I am thinking of buying this: SLG3000 Scanline Generator thing.... to use with the XRGB or something.

All XRGBs except for the 1 do this already, but it might team up really well with the $35 "HD converter" thing I linked to. I've wanted to try it but can't justify the cost. Combined they would still be a fraction of the cost of an XRGB.

QuoteWould I need to RGB mod my SuperGrafx, or Duo-R to take full advantage of an XRGB or VP30 though? Cause if so, fuck it. 1084 time. Composite on a 1084 looks good. I am thinking about getting an RGB mod on my duo-r eventually. Doesn't D-Lite do them?

The RGB mod is pretty minor in cost/complexity compared to the XRGB. I will be offering this service here soon. I have some more experimenting to do though.

SuperDeadite · 02/03/2011, 07:21 AM

Quote from: guest on 02/02/2011, 10:31 PM
Quote from: SuperDeadite on 02/02/2011, 09:38 PMXRGBs work best with RGB. Using S-Vid and Composite through them aren't recommended unless you have no choice.
The SLG3000 is for VGA. So you can pair one with an XRGB, but not really needed unless your are really anal about perfect scanlines, or have an XRGB-1 (no scanlines, but cheapest option).
but what about using that DVDO option, thats cheaper than an XRGB, with the scanline simulator?

This all sucks and seems like a lot of fuckin work when I got a badass 1084S in the closet 5 feet from me.

As nice as the XRGBs are, they still aren't the same as a real 15khz monitor. My 21'' VGA monitor with XRGB looks beautiful, but my 19'' cab's monitor wins every time. Stop being lazy, mod your systems and use that RGB monitor of yours. PCE RGB mods are stupid easy.

Obfuscate · 02/03/2011, 09:46 AM

Quote from: nat on 02/02/2011, 09:34 PMThree letters for you... J-V-C.
EDIT: Here's the 2004 TV I'm talking about.

Thanks Nat, it does look pretty nice and I trust your opinion on these things. Now I just have to find a place to buy one.

Arkhan Asylum · 02/03/2011, 01:19 PM

Quote from: SuperDeadite on 02/03/2011, 07:21 AMAs nice as the XRGBs are, they still aren't the same as a real 15khz monitor. My 21'' VGA monitor with XRGB looks beautiful, but my 19'' cab's monitor wins every time. Stop being lazy, mod your systems and use that RGB monitor of yours. PCE RGB mods are stupid easy.

It has nothing to do with lazy. I'm not comfortable opening a Duo-R or supergrafx to poke at it with soldering irons. I'll do it with a C64 because I don't care if I break those pieces of shit.

Someone else can do it for me maybe. The big thing though is, the RGB monitor takes up too much room on the desk, hence the flat panel.

I want to find the best way to make a LCD tv look similar to the 1084. Space is important. Plus the 1084S will probably blow up soon.

SuperDeadite · 02/03/2011, 08:35 PM

SGX is an easy mod. There is so much empty space it's hilarious. 70% of the PCB is totally devoid of
traces. It could easily have been the size of a normal PCE I'd bet. Plus you can use the expansion port,
which is really easy, and very hard to mess up.

You could always just buy a junk Ten no koe 2 and mod
it, you can do the mod on both ends of the port.

Arkhan Asylum · 02/03/2011, 11:18 PM

an RGB modded supagrafx would be legit, since I got the CD doodadder and what not.

Whats this about using the expansion port now?

The one on the front, or the one on the back?

Wtfs the one on the front even do?

I took that TV back and hooked the 1084 up with composite. Looks sexy.

SuperDeadite · 02/04/2011, 07:31 AM

The one on the back. Just have to solder wires to the correct pins. Don't need to use the chip
like on a Duo. I think the front port was for the Power Console, but nobody really knows.

Arkhan Asylum · 02/04/2011, 11:14 AM

Quote from: SuperDeadite on 02/04/2011, 07:31 AMThe one on the back. Just have to solder wires to the correct pins. Don't need to use the chip
like on a Duo. I think the front port was for the Power Console, but nobody really knows.

So I could actually make a ghetto connector instead of soldering to the pins? step 1, buy a tennokoe or some jive

step 2, hack that bastard up?

but then what if I want to use the RAU-30 and stuff to CD-ROM it up.

NecroPhile · 02/04/2011, 11:32 AM

Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 02/04/2011, 11:14 AMSo I could actually make a ghetto connector instead of soldering to the pins? step 1, buy a tennokoe or some jive

step 2, hack that bastard up?

but then what if I want to use the RAU-30 and stuff to CD-ROM it up.

Go this route instead:

Step 1: Put console in box and ship that mo-fo to [insert name of RGB mod provider here].
Step 2: Fap repeatedly to pictures of Lum cosplay girl.
Step 3: Retrieve mail, open box, connect cables and enjoy RGB goodness.

Arkhan Asylum · 02/04/2011, 11:39 AM

Quote from: NecroPhile on 02/04/2011, 11:32 AM
Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 02/04/2011, 11:14 AMSo I could actually make a ghetto connector instead of soldering to the pins? step 1, buy a tennokoe or some jive

step 2, hack that bastard up?

but then what if I want to use the RAU-30 and stuff to CD-ROM it up.
Go this route instead:

Step 1: Put console in box and ship that mo-fo to [insert name of RGB mod provider here].
Step 2: Fap repeatedly to pictures of Lum cosplay girl.
Step 3: Retrieve mail, open box, connect cables and enjoy RGB goodness.

yeah. that route sounds better lol.

I could hack one up though i got spare wires, itll just look like cock aesthetically.

Duo_R · 02/06/2011, 02:01 PM

ok I found a Sony KV32FS12 on craigslist. Anyone try this set? The sucky thing is it doesn't have progressive but if this is for old school shouldn't matter too much.

Any reason why some of you don't like Flat TV's?

also I was going to offer $55, deal?

Arkhan Asylum · 02/06/2011, 02:36 PM

I've had some weird light gun activity on flat screens sometimes. But only with the NES zapper.

THe sega master system gun didnt do it.

SignOfZeta · 02/06/2011, 02:45 PM

Quote from: Duo_R on 02/06/2011, 02:01 PMok I found a Sony KV32FS12 on craigslist. Anyone try this set? The sucky thing is it doesn't have progressive but if this is for old school shouldn't matter too much.

Any reason why some of you don't like Flat TV's?

also I was going to offer $55, deal?

That's a great set, and if it isn't too worn out and blurry $55 is a pretty average price.

I'm not sure why any of is wouldn't like flat TVs as long as they are CRTs.

nat · 02/06/2011, 07:44 PM

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 02/06/2011, 02:45 PMI'm not sure why any of is wouldn't like flat TVs as long as they are CRTs.

Right. I actually prefer the flat ones, personally.

NecroPhile · 02/07/2011, 10:50 AM

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 02/06/2011, 02:45 PMI'm not sure why any of is wouldn't like flat TVs as long as they are CRTs.

Agreed. I'd rather mine was flat instead of 'half' flat (no curve top to bottom), but for the price of nothing I won't complain.

Duo_R · 02/07/2011, 02:33 PM

My only hesistation is no progressive scan, but I guess for turbob it doesnt matter.

SuperDeadite · 02/07/2011, 07:36 PM

Quote from: Duo_R on 02/07/2011, 02:33 PMMy only hesistation is no progressive scan, but I guess for turbob it doesnt matter.

The Progressive Sony's don't display in true low res. Only Progressive or 4X Zoom.
Meaning you lose the scan lines. I have a Progressive Sony, in RGB games look great,
but the Fami looks like crap without the scan lines. Honestly you're better off with a
true low-res model (like that one) for retro. It's a shame the USA versions of that TV
don't have the RGB inputs though.

Duo_R · 02/07/2011, 10:45 PM

oh wow really? Do most TV's do that?

Quote from: SuperDeadite on 02/07/2011, 07:36 PM
Quote from: Duo_R on 02/07/2011, 02:33 PMMy only hesistation is no progressive scan, but I guess for turbob it doesnt matter.
The Progressive Sony's don't display in true low res. Only Progressive or 4X Zoom.
Meaning you lose the scan lines. I have a Progressive Sony, in RGB games look great,
but the Fami looks like crap without the scan lines. Honestly you're better off with a
true low-res model (like that one) for retro. It's a shame the USA versions of that TV
don't have the RGB inputs though.