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Anybody need a sealed Stadium Events?

Started by rodek, 01/17/2011, 09:47 AM

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rodek


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DragonmasterDan

I'm curious to see what it finishes at.
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Arkhan Asylum

*gets out pocket book*

That looks like a steal, I think ill buy it.
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Joe Redifer

I kind of need one but maybe it can wait.  I still need my kidneys for now.

SignOfZeta

It takes a real loser to drop that kind of cash on a POS game like that. These days $22k will buy out an entire arcade.
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Gogan

Nothin beats the real thing.

Opethian

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termis

Obviously, whoever buys this isn't buying it for the entertainment value of the game.  I have a hard enough time understanding people who drop more than say... $150 or so on a console video game.

Nevertheless, I wholeheartedly agree that whoever buys this is a serious loser.

TheClash603

I think it makes sense.  This is the Superman #1 of video games.

I would love to find one in the wild some day!

SuperDeadite

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MotherGunner

Wow...the least this asshole could do is free shipping ...
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SignOfZeta

Quote from: TheClash603 on 01/17/2011, 08:56 PMI think it makes sense.  This is the Superman #1 of video games.
No, it isn't. This is a useless shitty game isn't any fucking fun at all, commonly available in multiple, slightly different versions from the same period for $1 (if that).

Superman #1 (I assume you probably mean Action Comics #1) broke ground, kicked off a hugely successful franchise, and was actually sort of good. This...isn't. A $40,000 NES game that everyone knows sucks and will never be opened or played is just a artifact of a hugely rich and hugely bored society that has run out of ways to entertain themselves by spending money. Even if one views market-concious "video game collecting" as a non-horrible thing, this is completely outside of that. This thing is bullshit.

Somewhere in Slovenia some dudes with furry hats and new credit cards are in a bidding war over the only known Dendy copy of Bible Adventures localized for the Soviet Union. COMPLETE IN BOX!

And they are dumb-asses too.
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Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 01/17/2011, 09:45 PMSomewhere in Slovenia some dudes with furry hats and new credit cards are in a bidding war over the only known Dendy copy of Bible Adventures localized for the Soviet Union. COMPLETE IN BOX!

And they are dumb-asses too.
IN SOVIET RUSSIA, MARKET GOUGE YOU.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

rodek

One of my collector friends told me there is a guy near the east coast in canada who has an almost complete NES SEALED collection.. missing like 4 or 5. He already has stadium events.

That must be worth an insane amount of money. Even garbage games are worth $100+ sealed..(just because they are sealed... cart alone is worthless)

There is 677 Licenced games for the system. Insane. .. .

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: rodek on 01/17/2011, 09:54 PMOne of my collector friends told me there is a guy near the east coast in canada who has an almost complete NES SEALED collection.. missing like 4 or 5. He already has stadium events.

That must be worth an insane amount of money. Even garbage games are worth $100+ sealed..(just because they are sealed... cart alone is worthless)

There is 677 Licenced games for the system. Insane. .. .
sneak into his house with a razor and carefully break the seal of every game.

go with honor, SWIFTLY INTO THE NIGHT!
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

TheClash603

Unless there is a discovery of a warehouse full of these in the future, like it or not, this shitty game is going to remain valuable.

SignOfZeta

I know a guy who is a pretty massive collector. He doesn't have the greatest collection in the world, but it is HUUUGE. He literally goes into the game store with laundry baskets full of stuff to trade.

Anyway, this guy's one major system he collects for is....


...wait for it...

...and I'm being serious now...


...wait for it...







US PS2.

Is that a trip or what? One of the least charismatic systems ever. And he's good at it. He's missing something like 4 or 5 titles. He has like...NBA 2002 and all the hunting shit and the arab killer games and the Acclaim games that are just blatant rip-offs of whatever Activision had success with that year. Bratz. Sure he'll have some great stuff like Street Fighter Alpha Collection and Outrun Coast2Coast, but he must literally have like 400+ complete pieces of shit at the very least.

And some day, in about 20 years, the next misguided generation of losers will sell their kidneys to get it.

Quote from: TheClash603 on 01/17/2011, 10:37 PMUnless there is a discovery of a warehouse full of these in the future, like it or not, this shitty game is going to remain valuable.
Valuable to obedient capitalist stooges who value things based on what other people say, yeah, but no sane person would pay more than $100 for the thing. As it is they are paying $6000 a year in interest on the money they borrowed to buy the piece of crap. When you say "I respect what this thing is worth" you are by proxy saying that you respect the total losers from hell that paid this money for it. Sure its possible that the guy that bought the $40,000 copy is 50 Cent or Steve Jobs...but it really probably isn't. Its just some fucktard with too much credit, or possibly even a gang of fucktards who pooled their Visas together to buy the thing and will eventually end up suing each other for custody. This isn't a case of supply/demand and all that, its just a mental case idiot who probably only owns one pair of sheets spending what could be the down payment on a half a million dollar house on a useless plastic wrapped box that will never sell for that much money again.
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DragonmasterDan

Quote from: TheClash603 on 01/17/2011, 08:56 PMI would love to find one in the wild some day!
So would I.... oh wait...


Quote from: rodek on 01/17/2011, 09:54 PMOne of my collector friends told me there is a guy near the east coast in canada who has an almost complete NES SEALED collection.. missing like 4 or 5. He already has stadium events.

That must be worth an insane amount of money. Even garbage games are worth $100+ sealed..(just because they are sealed... cart alone is worthless)

There is 677 Licenced games for the system. Insane. .. .
Someone was within about 60 games of a complete sealed collection. He recently started selling off though. I'm guessing that's who you were referring to. There's a few people with complete CIB collections, DreamTR who visits this board occasionally being among them.


Quote from: SignOfZeta on 01/18/2011, 12:57 AMI know a guy who is a pretty massive collector. He doesn't have the greatest collection in the world, but it is HUUUGE. He literally goes into the game store with laundry baskets full of stuff to trade.

Anyway, this guy's one major system he collects for is....


...wait for it...

...and I'm being serious now...


...wait for it...







US PS2.

Is that a trip or what? One of the least charismatic systems ever. And he's good at it. He's missing something like 4 or 5 titles. He has like...NBA 2002 and all the hunting shit and the arab killer games and the Acclaim games that are just blatant rip-offs of whatever Activision had success with that year. Bratz. Sure he'll have some great stuff like Street Fighter Alpha Collection and Outrun Coast2Coast, but he must literally have like 400+ complete pieces of shit at the very least.
The PS2 in the US probably has triple the games on the US licensed NES. Seriously, I'd guess there's at least 2000 in the 10 years on the market. Since 2006 or so the amount of budget crap not even carried by say for example GameStop has skyrocketed. I don't even think there's a list of all US licensed games the number of releases is so high.

400+ complete pieces of shit is a low estimate. It's at least double that.
--DragonmasterDan

SignOfZeta

Since Sony grants the license for all the games I assume they know how many there are, but I'm not sure if they share that info. There used to be (IIRC) a Sony site that showed all the Japanese PS1 releases with cover scans and everything, but I have no idea if something like that exists anymore. Probably not for PS2 regardless.

I'll ask him how many games he has. I'm pretty sure its less than 2000, but I can't remember.

Maybe the ESRB has a search function?
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DragonmasterDan

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Quote from: SignOfZeta on 01/18/2011, 04:49 PMSince Sony grants the license for all the games I assume they know how many there are, but I'm not sure if they share that info. There used to be (IIRC) a Sony site that showed all the Japanese PS1 releases with cover scans and everything, but I have no idea if something like that exists anymore. Probably not for PS2 regardless.

I'll ask him how many games he has. I'm pretty sure its less than 2000, but I can't remember.

Maybe the ESRB has a search function?
It may, but it likely includes games that were ESRB rated and didn't wind up actually getting a commercial release, or got renamed, etc.

Added in edit:
Playstation 2 returns 1962 games.
--DragonmasterDan

NecroPhile

It's take-it-with-a-grain-of-salt-wikipedia, but its "complete as of Jan. 2010" list claims that there are 2015 different games from all regions.  It's most likely not 100% correct, but it's probably close enough.
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SignOfZeta

I'm sure whatever the number is, this friend of mine probably has as good of an idea as anyone. The reason being that nobody else actually gives a shit. :)
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DragonmasterDan

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 01/18/2011, 05:44 PMI'm sure whatever the number is, this friend of mine probably has as good of an idea as anyone. The reason being that nobody else actually gives a shit. :)
Well maybe Sony will publish a list at some point. Nintendo published a list of licensed NES, SNES, and N64 carts, Though it left out some despite claiming to be complete.
--DragonmasterDan

TheClash603

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 01/18/2011, 12:57 AM
Quote from: TheClash603 on 01/17/2011, 10:37 PMUnless there is a discovery of a warehouse full of these in the future, like it or not, this shitty game is going to remain valuable.
Valuable to obedient capitalist stooges who value things based on what other people say, yeah, but no sane person would pay more than $100 for the thing. As it is they are paying $6000 a year in interest on the money they borrowed to buy the piece of crap. When you say "I respect what this thing is worth" you are by proxy saying that you respect the total losers from hell that paid this money for it. Sure its possible that the guy that bought the $40,000 copy is 50 Cent or Steve Jobs...but it really probably isn't. Its just some fucktard with too much credit, or possibly even a gang of fucktards who pooled their Visas together to buy the thing and will eventually end up suing each other for custody. This isn't a case of supply/demand and all that, its just a mental case idiot who probably only owns one pair of sheets spending what could be the down payment on a half a million dollar house on a useless plastic wrapped box that will never sell for that much money again.
I am not sure if I agree with you that the buyer of a Stadium Events is someone maxing out a credit card.  A figure that is commonly quoted is that 1% of the population of this country hold 90% of its wealth.  That means roughly 3 million people in this country could somewhat easily purchase a Stadium Events and not be broke because of it.

Furthermore, regardless of if you think it is foolish or not, the game has been a great investment as of late.  Imagine if you paid $5,000 for a Stadium Events cartridge in 2005, or if you purchased $5,000 of stock.  Odds are your return on equity would be much greater for Stadium Events than most any publicly traded stock.  That is why rich people are told to diversify their portfolio.  People should hold stocks, bonds, munis, T-Bills, and valued assets.  The common asset purchases for a wealthy people are art, cars, or real estate.  I am fairly certain that the video game market as an investment has eclipsed all of those other alternative investments in the past few years.

Maybe the person who buys this Stadium Events is a Wall Street investor that has absolutely no care for video games?  Maybe the skyrocketing value of the game is enticing enough for a wealthy individual to take a risk on this alternative investment?

I am not a fan of video games as investments, because I collect games to play them.  Games as investments means that my hobby has become more expensive, and I really dislike that.  However, as a person who works in finance, it would be ignorant to ignore the investment value of video games as of late, especially for top dollar items that are grabbing headlines.

Maybe Yahoo! will publish another article on the person who purchases the game, and that way we can see who is right about the purchaser.

NecroPhile

Quote from: TheClash603 on 01/18/2011, 07:10 PMImagine if you paid $5,000 for a Stadium Events cartridge in 2005, or if you purchased $5,000 of stock.  Odds are your return on equity would be much greater for Stadium Events than most any publicly traded stock.
That's faulty logic - you can't pick one of the 'highest performing' video game investments and compare it to the average stock performance.  If you want to compare the best, a $5000 investment in Priceline in 2005 would be worth about $50,000 today.

Quote from: TheClash603 on 01/18/2011, 07:10 PMI am fairly certain that the video game market as an investment has eclipsed all of those other alternative investments in the past few years.
No way, no how.  Video games make a horrible investment, as only a tiny percentage has ballooned in value the likes of Stadium Events; whereas traditional real property is far easier to gauge future performance.
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SignOfZeta

I basically agree with Necro. Most games cost $50-80 new, and most games are worth maybe $5 10 years later, maybe are worth $1. The depreciation on games is worse than almost anything.


Quote from: TheClash603 on 01/18/2011, 07:10 PMI am not sure if I agree with you that the buyer of a Stadium Events is someone maxing out a credit card.  A figure that is commonly quoted is that 1% of the population of this country hold 90% of its wealth.  That means roughly 3 million people in this country could somewhat easily purchase a Stadium Events and not be broke because of it.
And you work in finance?

Yeah, its more like %36 of the wealth in the US is owned by %1 of the people, but its more complicated than that. That %1 isn't populated with billionaires all equally making the same money. Most of those %1 are the new middle class, doctors and lawers and people making maybe half a mill per year, and even in that income bracket $40,000 on a game, for investment purposes, is stupid.

Now, the top %0.5 of that %1? Those are some rich motherfuckers. Robber barons, war profiteers, movie stars, the Rolling Stones. A wreched hive of scum and villainy. One of the reasons people with that much money have that much money (dynasties aside) is that they aren't stupid with it. Do you think Alan Greenspan or Bill Gates are going to drop forty large on a fucking NES game? Please.
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geise

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Hmmm... finish paying off my $40,000 mortgage on my house or buy a nes game?  :-k  I think I'll go with the nes game and give it to my wife on Valentine's Day.  Maybe I'll wrap it up and give it to her at dinner.  Before I do that I need to have the VGA rate it.  When I give it to her I'll tell her how much I love her cause of the price I paid for it.  Man I'll get so much love that night.

edit:  I just noticed the fucker with the bid still charges about 12 bucks for shipping on an already 22k game.  Most awesome person ever!

rodek

Only way I would pay $40k for a game if I had a few million in the bank. Then shure... what's 40k ?
.....  even though you could do some good with 40k instead of a sealed game.

rodek

SOLD !!! for a Small price of $22,800.00 USD.

bartre

JESUS TAPDANCING CHRIST!

you could buy a couple years of college for that sum!

...i now hate all game "collectors"

termis

Hey, you could've bought it last year at $40k and made a profit of....

oh wait...

SignOfZeta

Yeah, so much for "investment". The fucking thing lost half its value from last year.

I have to wonder if its the same copy...:)
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rodek

So, I'll give you guys an interesting update on this purchase. The buyer sent the game to VGA grading ( http://www.vggrader.com ) then put the game back up on ebay for the absolutely ridiculous price of $500,000.000 (buy it now)

Here take a look.. Hopefully he will never get his 23k$ back he invested on the game in the first place.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nintendo-NES-StAdiUM-EvEnTs-NTSC-SEaLeD-VGA-75-NIB-NEW_W0QQitemZ200581833218QQcategoryZ139973QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D200575612215%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7551117695217469455

termis

Ridiculous offers beg for a ridiculous counteroffer.

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